Easiest way to clear up disputes - OPEN UP JAMES BATH'S TANG FILES.

[blm]

Let analysts compare Bath's files with Bush's. After all, the best friends just happened to be GROUNDED FROM FLYING AT THE SAME TIME FOR THE SAME REASON.

Gee....when will reporters learn how to report?

[goclark]

1. yea!

[acmavm]

2. I'm sure that if there's any derogatory info in there it's been scrubbed

like bush*s. There will be no connection or dirt to be found. But I wonder if he refused to take the physical, and how he got out of it.

[blm]

3. The mere fact that his records are missing would be damning.

.

[kentuck]

11. They seem to have been busted at the same time...

probably for the same offense? Same wording in the documents for each of them. Both grounded from flying on the same day..

[lanparty]

21. Very strange how both good friends ...

... refused to take a physical at the exact same times. As far as we know, Baath is Bush's "Band of Brother". How strange that the only man who will account for Bush's service ALSO was suspended from flight duties at a time when the Air Force began limited drug testing on pilots.

[City Lights]

4. I suggested this to CBS in an email yesterday.

[email protected]

[blm]

15. Good deal.

.

[madinmaryland]

5. For more info see this,

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37162

[Spiffarino]

6. WorldNetDaily...fair and balanced

Just like Faux News. :eyes:

[blm]

8. Nothing new there. Same baloney. None have real answers when pressed

do they? None that answers where he was during Alabama and none with a realistic answer as to WHY he was grounded.

[frank frankly]

7. bingo

i really really really want to see the BFEE finally taken down.

i think it will happen. fingers crossed and busy working for the campaign, too...

[Old and In the Way]

9. James Bath, the CIA guy who was the Saudi business agent in Texas?

Small world, indeed. I'll bet Bush hardly remembers Bath...like he hardly remembers Ken Lay.

[kentuck]

10. Someone could do an FOIA on these files.....

and they would indeed clear up a lot of questions. Excellent suggestion!

[frank frankly]

12. kick

:kick:

[Stephanie]

13. Here's an old DU thread about Bath, with lots of good research posts:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1106153

[Octafish]

14. Toronto DUers! Check out Mark Lombardi exhibit...

The late artist literally and figuratively and absolutely PEGGED the BFEE ... and its bagman James R Bath...



Wondering at wickedness

Mark Lombardi's sinister and complex drawings are his indictment of government and corporate intrigue and of a public that can't be bothered to connect the dots

By SARAH MILROY
Friday, September 10, 2004 - Page R27

When the American artist Mark Lombardi was found dead, hanging in his studio loft in Williamsburg, N.Y., back in March, 2000, some suspected foul play. After all, Lombardi, who was 48, had spent the previous seven years documenting the interconnected webs of government and corporate intrigue that thread through the global economy, detailing these relationships in his painstaking and meticulously researched drawings.

The current show of his work at the Art Gallery of Ontario, opening today, includes 25 of these works, each one a chart-like record of Lombardi's investigations. All of the information for the works was taken from the public record (at the time of his death he had amassed more than 14,700 file cards full of information), making his project not just an indictment of the trickery he documents but of the public who can't be bothered to connect the dots. The criminal investigations into Lombardi's death may have been dropped, but the artist's own investigations provoke us still.

"Homeland Security came to see the show the day before it opened at Cornell University," says the exhibition's curator, Robert Hobbs. "One of the things they found so disconcerting was the evidence of one solitary citizen having amassed so much information. They were very interested in seeing the cards. We have included 1,500 of them in vitrines in the show, just to give a sense of the activity."

Lombardi called his drawings "narrative structures," and a careful system governed the types of lines that he used. Solid lines indicate the movement of influence, dotted lines the movement of assets and red the occurrence of terminal events: deaths, bankruptcies and court judgments. Some of his finished works span up to three metres in length, densely interwoven skeins of lines that link the perpetrators, one to the next. In the work titled George W. Bush, Harken Energy and Jackson Stevens (c. 1979-90), for example, a bundle of lines flourishes in all directions from the node that represents James Bath (it looks a little like O'Hare on the United Airlines route map), a testament to Bath's central role in brokering the now well-documented Bush-Bin Laden family business relationship.

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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20040910/MILROY10/TPEntertainment/Art

[lyonn]

16. guess he went to Alabama too

They needed to campaign for the people that wanted us to stay in Viet Nam and fight the good fight.

[blm]

17. I never heard that he went to Alabama.

But, i sure would like to see how his file compares with Bush boy's.

[Octafish]

18. From what I remember: Bath had served in Vietnam, honorably.

It was only after he met Bush did he swerve from the straight and narrow.

You make an excellent point, lyonn, regarding the people Bush campaigned for. The guy is pro-war, IMO, because it makes Poppy and his friends a lot of money. Smirky McCokespoon is OK with Vietnam, as long as he didn't have to go and fight.

Here's a great Bath repository:

http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/mhp/EntityDisplay.php?Entity=BathJR

[Octafish]

19. That doesn't mean he's not a crook.

Especially after being exposed to Junior's nose candy. Of course, the Bush Organized Crime Family pay plan is most generous. Their retirement plan leaves a lot to be desired...



George W. Bush's Dubious Friends

Intelligence Newsletter, 2 March 2000
Posted at globalresearch.ca 1 October 2001

Texas governor George W. Bush's campaign to become the Republican candidate in this November's presidential ballot could shortly run into turbulence because of new information about his past. Indeed, among the figures Bush dealt with indirectly when he ran oil companies was Saudi banker Khaled Bin Mahfouz who, Intelligence Newsletter has learned, is currently under house arrest in a hospital in Taef at the behest of the American authorities. The latter are looking into contributions Mahfouz is said to have made to welfare associations close to terrorist Ussama Bin Laden. Considered as the "king's treasurer," Mahfouz was recently forced to sharply reduce his stake in the National Commercial Bank, one of the biggest in the kingdom. Many in Arab financial circles see this as a harbinger of his disgrace. Mahfouz's name was linked to the scandal involving the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) , in which he held a 20% interest between 1986-1990. The BCCI was accused in senator John- Kerry's report of money-laundering and of financing terrorist groups and covert spy operations before it was wound up on July 5, 1991, with a $ 12 billion loss to its customers. Mahfouz was also linked to a case involving fake passports in Ireland in 1997 that forced Irish foreign minister Ray Burke to resign.

In 1987 Mahfouz's representative in the U.S., Abdullah Taha Bakhsh, acquired an 11.5% stake in a company in which the Bush was a shareholder, director and adviser, Harken Energy. Bush played a central role in Harken which had his previous oil business, Spectrum 7 Energy Corporation, in 1986. Spectrum 7, in which Bush was boss and held 13.8%, had previously bought up the first firm Bush founded, Arbusto Energy Inc. in 1984. An American banker named Jacksen Stephens who was to also be deeply involved in the BCCI affair moved in 1987 to invest $ 25 million in Harken. The transaction took place in Geneva with the money was paid through a joint venture set up between the Union des Banques Suisses and the Geneva branch of the BCCI; the financial accord was signed by both Stephens and Bakksh. Other links between Bush and Mahfouz can be found through investments in the Carlyle Group, an American investment firm managed by a board on which former president George Bush himself sat. The younger Bush personally held shares in one of the components of the Carlyle group, the Caterair company, between 1990-94. And Carlyle today ranks as a leading contributor to Bush's electoral campaign. On Carlyle's advisory board figures the name of Sami Baarma, director of the Pakistani financial establishment Prime Commercial Bank that is based in Lahore and owned by Mafouz.

A second figure with an ambiguous part in Bush's financial past is Texas businessman James Bath. Considered as very close to the CIA, he appeared for the first time at Bush's side in 1978 when the latter made his first, unsuccessful run for the governorship. (He wouldn't try again until 1994, when he won). Bath helped to finance his campaign at the time and later bought into two of Bush's companies, Arbusto 79 Ltd and Arbusto 80 Ltd, affiliates of the Arbusto Energy oil exploration company founded by "W" in 1977. Under a mandate signed in 1976, Bath represented the financial interests of the Saudi Arabian sheikh Salem Bin Laden in the United States. Father of Ussama Bin Laden, Salem died in 1988. Thanks to his connections with Saudi business circles Bath obtained a $ 1.4 million loan from Mahfouz in 1990.

These ties reflect many of the strategic issues that prevailed in the 1970s and 80s. The highly influential Bin Laden family in Saudi Arabia helped to bankroll Islamic movements fighting the Russians in Afghanistan, with the blessings and participation of Washington (Ussama Bin Laden was given special training in covert operations in that context). But policy at the time also consisted of de-stabilizing the Moslem republics on the southern rim of the USSR by fomenting unrest on their borders.

SOURCE:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/INL110A.html

[Octafish]

20. ... nor a Poppy spook.

Here's a nice Bath-Bush crimeline with the names of the princes and principals:

Coincidence … the Tangled History Between the Bush's & the Elite of Saudi Arabia …

TMPress International Newswire

EXCERPT...

In 1968, George W. Bush joins the Texas Air National Guard, a coveted position that ensures he doesn’t have to serve in Vietnam. While a member of the Guard, Bush meets and befriends Jim Bath, a former Air Force pilot and budding entrepreneur.

In 1976, George H.W. Bush becomes director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). During his tenure, Bush helps provide training for the Saudi royal family’s palace guard, cementing a relationship that proves critical to the Bush family’s fortunes. Bush also privatizes various CIA assets, with Bath considered one of the beneficiaries because of his involvement in the aircraft business. Bath will later tell a business associate he works for the CIA and was recruited by Bush Sr. … Jim Bath is alleged to be the link between the Bin Laden and Bush families. Salem Bin Laden, older brother to future al-Qaeda leader Osama, enters into a trust agreement with Jim Bath, whereby Bath will act as the Bin Laden family’s representative in North America, investing money in various business ventures. Bath also becomes the business representative of Khalid bin Mahfouz, a member of Saudi Arabia’s most powerful banking family and owners of the National Commercial Bank, the principal bank of the Saudi royal family.

In 1978, Charles W. `Bill' White, a former Annapolis graduate and US Navy pilot, graduates from Harvard’s business school. He is then introduced to Jim Bath who is looking for someone to manage his real estate company. Bath hires White as his partner. Money from the Bin Laden and Bin Mahfouz families is invested in Bath’s real estate company. Among other things, Bath buys the Saudis an airport, office and apartment buildings, and invests in Texas banks. Eventually, Salem Bin Laden and Khalid bin Mahfouz buy an enormous mansion in River Oaks, Houston’s most affluent neighborhood. Read an interview with Bill White … Bush Jr. was a young man when he received funding for his first oil venture from Jim Bath. George W. Bush starts up an oil company in Texas called Arbusto 78. Bath will invest money from Salem bin Laden and Khalid bin Mahfouz in this new company. Bill White is told by Bath that more than $1-million of the Saudis’ money was pumped into Bush’s venture.

SNIP...

In 1986, Bill White and Jim Bath have a falling out. Bath then launches 28 frivolous lawsuits against White, leading to White’s financial ruin and expulsion from Houston’s business community. White fights the lawsuits, refusing to take a huge pay off to keep silent about his knowledge of Bath’s relationship to the Saudis and Bush family. Read an interview with Bill White. In 1987, Harken Energy, a company that George W. Bush’s failed oil companies have been folded into, receives $25-million stock offering underwritten by significant players connected to the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI), a Middle Eastern banking concern. Bush is key to Harken obtaining the money. Bin Mahfouz, Osama's brother-in-law, lived in Houston and had ties to both the Bin Ladens and Jim Bath.

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http://www.williambowles.info/guests/bush_saudi.html