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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 04:24 AM
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NYT lead story focuses on divisions in Kerry campaign
The story's subhead on the NYT homepage: "Divisions have surfaced in the Kerry campaign over how best — and how far — they should go in taking on President Bush."

Bush and Kerry Step Up Attacks in Swing States
By RICHARD W. STEVENSON and DAVID M. HALBFINGER

Published: September 11, 2004

.... the more difficult question, officials say, is just how the Kerry campaign - even if Mr. Kerry does not take part directly - should go after Mr. Bush. Some of Mr. Kerry's closest friends and longtime political operatives from Boston, who have now set up shop at Democratic headquarters in Washington, are pressing for more, saying the campaign and the candidate must go on the offensive, to restore Mr. Kerry's own character as a political asset and to hold Mr. Bush accountable for attacks on Mr. Kerry.

These friends and former aides, led by David Thorne, a Yale classmate, fellow Navy veteran and brother of Mr. Kerry's first wife, are agitating for the candidate himself to answer what they called the character-assassination attacks of people like Vice President Cheney and members of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. They are pushing for Mr. Kerry to make a dramatic statement of his own to settle voters' doubts about Mr. Kerry's Vietnam War period.

Officials in the campaign, however, including both longstanding consultants like Bob Shrum and new additions like Joe Lockhart and other veterans of the Clinton administration, have balked at such a move, saying it could be a disaster and alienate too many swing voters who would view such an approach as mean-spirited. They said Mr. Kerry would do better to concentrate on issues where he outperforms Mr. Bush in polls, like jobs and health care....

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An example of the tug of war over whether and how to strike back at Mr. Bush came on Sept. 1, when the senator addressed a meeting of the American Legion in Nashville during the Republican convention. Some of his friends said they had hoped that Mr. Kerry would deliver an impassioned speech saying that Republican mockery of his Purple Heart awards was an insult to all veterans. The speech was drafted in part by former Senator Bob Kerrey, a Purple Heart winner in Vietnam himself, campaign advisers said....But the plan was thwarted by campaign officials who argued that Mr. Kerry would make himself a sitting duck for a savage counterattack on the Republican convention's final day....

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While Mr. Kerry's longtime friends from Boston privately express frustration that they have been unable to get Mr. Kerry to stand up for himself more, one senior Kerry aide said obliquely that the campaign still planned to address the attacks on Mr. Kerry in a dramatic way....

(There's a lot more in the article re. campaign strategy.)

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/11/politics/campaign/11campaign.html

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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 04:28 AM
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1. Not bad...
Showing the world that UNLIKE BUSH, Kerry prefers to focus on the actual issues and NOT DO MEAN-SPIRITED CRAP.

:)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 05:59 AM
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 06:45 AM
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5. ah, the BC04 WARROOM. what a manly, brainy place that must be.
every working smoothly, efficiently.

:puke:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 07:44 AM
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Fionn Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 07:47 AM
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10. Fuck off!
Go back over my posts and you'll see that I'm a loyal dem.

Am I supposed to ignore the truth about the impression this article gives me, or risk being called a troll? Grow up.

I happen to trust the NYT, and if this is true, well then I'm damn angry about how my dollars are being spent.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 07:53 AM
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11. Trust the NYT? Show me the WMDs then. Nice try, but hint:
we, on DU, don't think the NYT is a "liberal" newspaper. Go, study the lingo some more, then come back to scare us.
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Fionn Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 07:56 AM
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12. I don't think the NYT is liberal either!
But I trust it the most of any of the msm.

Is their some DU Standard I have to conform to whereby I hate everything that tells me what I don't want to hear?

Your logic is fucked up, man.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 06:25 AM
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3. the media continues to ''gore'' kerry
this is too much like what the media did to gore.
call into question kerry's ability to campaign, the character of the campaign, the sbvt crap, etc -- kerry is out there giving a detailed message and this is what the times hits us with.
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 06:40 AM
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4. Sounds like the "let's try not to lose" crowd has control of the campaign
...where's the "let's WIN this sombitch!" crowd?
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 07:15 AM
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7. Hate to admit it, but
I have to agree. Many were sorrowful and angry when Gore just sat, looking stupid when the opposition just savaged him and we swore-never again would we allow this kind of crap to happen again. If Kerry should lose, which I doubt, and there is another election, which I also doubt, we are flat NOT going to allow the candidate to run his own campaign!
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 07:13 AM
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6. The Way To Attack Bush Is To Tell The Truth About Him.
Kerry doesn't even have to get involved. All it would take to turn this election around is to knock the props out from under the ONE thing Bush has going for him -- the perception of him being a strong leader in the WOT.

But the fact is, he has been an abominable leader. And that would be VERY easy to show -- starting with footage of Smirk fiddling with second-graders while NYC burned.
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bushwakker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 07:16 AM
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8. "Mean-spirited"? All this tuff about how voters hate negative
attacks is BS. Kerry hasn't stood up for himself. It's not so much that people believe the SBL's its' that they don't like Kerry's response. The fact that they are debating this is pathetic. They were handed a great opportunity to compare the personal characters of the two candidates and they blew it. They are hopeless.
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 08:11 AM
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13. Dump Shrum Now!
What is the deal with Bob Shrum? Why the Dems think he's this strategic guru is completely beyond me. His history is a history of how to take a great candidate and turn him into a loser: McGovern, Ted Kennedy, Gore. Dump Shrum Now!
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