Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Wouldn't Secretary of Health and Human Services be more appropriate for Hillary?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 06:24 PM
Original message
Wouldn't Secretary of Health and Human Services be more appropriate for Hillary?
I know it's not as high profile, but health care is the issue she's most passionate about, and the most experience with. Her background in issues affecting women and children, including her time at the Children's Defense Fund, her legal work, and her experience as First Lady make her perfect for that role. I wonder why that is not being considered. I know it is less prestigious and not as high profile, but she said the other day she's not looking for the spotlight, she's looking to make a difference. So why doesn't Obama offer her HHS instead of State? I think she might be a good Secretary of State but HHS is perfect for her.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 06:26 PM
Response to Original message
1. I agree with you and your observations. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 06:28 PM
Response to Original message
2. I agree too. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 06:29 PM
Response to Original message
3. No. But HHS for Olympia Snowe sounds good.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 06:31 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. Nah, Snowe would be better for Commerce Secretary
Isn't small business one of her main areas of expertise? I am all for Republicans in the cabinet but HHS is a job for someone who's pretty progressive on healthcare and education...I don't want a Republican in that slot.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 06:54 PM
Response to Reply #6
10. Commerce is OK.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 07:07 PM
Response to Reply #6
16. She's been chair and Ranking member on Small Business
and she is on Commerce and Finance too. She and Kerry, who is also on those three committees, have introduced a lot of legislation together.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 06:30 PM
Response to Original message
4. I've been thinking that myself.
I'm not sure they didn't discuss all possibilities, not just SoS.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 06:32 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. For you, Patsy:
http://www.jedreport.com/2008/11/buzz-fizzle.html

Buzz Fizzle?

This is somewhat reassuring (NYT):

Advisers to the onetime rivals for the Democratic nomination confirmed Friday that President-elect Barack Obama had met with Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on Thursday afternoon at Mr. Obama's transition office in Chicago and discussed the secretary of state job.

The prospect of Mrs. Clinton as secretary of state, perhaps the most prestigious cabinet position in any administration, sent people buzzing. But associates to both Democrats cautioned that their conversation included other cabinet possibilities and that no job was offered. Democrats said late Friday that Mr. Obama had also met with another oft-mentioned candidate for the post, Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico, to discuss the secretary of state job.

Still, the fact that Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton had even met to discuss such a possibility left even some of their closest advisers and allies talking about the pros and cons of so close a partnership, and about how it would be complicated by a third wheel: Mrs. Clinton's globe-trotting husband, former President Bill Clinton.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 07:48 AM
Response to Reply #7
26. Thank you, ma'am!
At least I have some company in my suspicions.

:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 06:30 PM
Response to Original message
5. She cant help her corporate buds from that position
In fact, just the opposite.

The next HHS head will likely have to take on the private insurers and big pharma.

If I actually thought she really wanted nationalized healthcare that position would be perfect for her.

But her last try at it was 16 years ago, and she never pushed for it after that.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 06:37 PM
Response to Original message
8. Sorry, politically for a high profile woman it's a NO.
That job has been the "women's ghetto" and so is not desired by the top tier women candidates. Sorry if that sounds bad, but it just is as a reality.

State, Defense,DOJ. Those seem to be considered the really "important" jobs. Of course, they aren't, necessarily. HHS is hugely important, but not for HRC at this point in her career.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 06:40 PM
Response to Original message
9. Absolutely not
I don't care how passionate she is, she just isn't qualified. She has neither the experience nor the temperament for the job. I think that Howard Dean would be a perfect choice. He is a doctor, and he has already delt with implementing healthcare policies as Governor of Vermont.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 06:54 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. I read that he's not being seriously considered
Because Obama wants someone with relationships in Congress who can help get a healthcare plan through. That's one of the reasons I think Hillary would be perfect for it. I like Dean for Surgeon General though.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 04:28 AM
Response to Reply #11
23. as others have noted, she wouldn't be offered it, as it's a second tier position
and furthermore, although Dean is qualified for HHS, he is NOT qualified for SG. People here seem to not have a clue about that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 07:00 PM
Response to Reply #9
12. If we want Obama to consider Howard Dean as his best choice,
I think it's going to take a letter writing campaign from many to convince him. Dr. Dean would be the best because he has dealt with this issue as Governor of Vermont. His handle on public health care issues is what got him in the public eye to begin with and that led to him running for President. Even though Obama doesn't want him now, I think we need to change his mind.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 07:02 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. I read that Obama wants someone with Congressional experience and contacts
To make it easier to lobby Congress to pass his health care plan. So Dean would not be good from that perspective. But what about Surgeon General for Dean?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 07:23 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. Wouldn't Dean have gotten Congressional contacts through his
position on the DNC?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 07:01 PM
Response to Reply #9
13. LOL
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 09:52 PM
Response to Reply #9
19. She's not qualified??????
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 09:59 PM
Response to Reply #9
21. She's more qualified for SOS.
She has experience with diplomacy. I'm not sure what her experience for HHS is other than fighting for healthcare in '93 and then doing nothing about it for the next ten years.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 09:11 AM
Response to Reply #9
28. How is she not qualified?
She has years of experience working on health care.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 07:03 PM
Response to Original message
15. I'll support Obama's decision about where to put people
they were smarter than any of us during the primaries and general election when many people here were panicking or offering the usual silly advice. Obama is a pretty smart person and knows what he's doing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 09:50 PM
Response to Original message
18. It's a second tier post.
Why would she leave the senate for that?

x(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-08 09:57 PM
Response to Original message
20. No. She has too much experience for that position.
She would have no reason to give up her Senate seat for it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 12:53 AM
Response to Original message
22. Howard Dean is interested in HHS.
Clinton tried big-footing her way into taking the helm of healthcare recently, and Kennedy advised her he wasn't dead yet and had every intention of continuing to lead on that issue.

She needs to find a niche without stepping on toes. Nobody is entitled to step on toes.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 06:57 AM
Response to Reply #22
25. Nobody is entitled to stick their toes out so far that anybody who wants to move
ends up stepping on them, either.

I don't necessarily disagree that Kennedy deserves to lead on this, but your "entitled" comment was just ludicrous. No public servant is "entitled" to ANYTHING policy-related--and that includes Kennedy. What we give out of respect and admiration is not an entitlement.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 12:52 PM
Response to Reply #25
27. "Nobody is entitled to step on toes. "
That's my comment on "entitled" and it's far from ludicrous. Ted Kennedy has seniority which is precisely why Clinton's overtures to squeeze him out were quickly and rightfully rebuffed.

Her lack of respect for her colleagues vis a vis seniority mirrors the same sense of entitlement people here exhibit on behalf of the Clintons. That some feel she should be rewarded for the dismally inept campaign she ran is what is ludicrous.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 06:36 AM
Response to Original message
24. No. Howard Dean would be wonderful for HHS.
Hillary deserves to serve out her term where she was elected in the first place.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 10:10 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC