Kerry "helping middle class not about politics, but my fundamental values"

[NewYorkerfromMass]

See. Here's why I support John Kerry.

John F. Kerry had it together about taxes in this campaign, and years before Dean ever did.
John F. Kerry has been fighting for the middle class his whole life.

"...helping the middle class is not about politics, it's about my fundamental values. We need leaders who help out the middle class all the time - not just when the heat is on."

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0107c.html

John has been there all the time.

[sallyseven]

1. You have that right

[NewYorkerfromMass]

5. A succinct response and to the point

Truth resonates.
An authentic and bonafide Democratic hero in every sense of the word, I have no doubt where John comes from or what he will do for me.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

2. Helping corporations offshore jobs is Kerry's fundamental value

He's spent his career pimping for NAFTA, GATT - and I bet he'll support CAFTA too - WITHOUT the labor and environmental protections he pretends to support. (Oh, he'll pass the protections as "side agreements" that never get enforced - but he'll make damn sure that the corporations "rights" are enforced).

What an utter sellout.

[DemOutWest]

4. Another posting

with a message that is totally hogwash and clueless. Attacking the message not the messenger. :)

He has always promoted environmental and labor protections for overseas. Seems many don't understand that a Senator is one of a 100 and not everyone can get what they want. They can get as much as possible or nothing at all. As President, we will see John Kerry's vision.

Does anyone check out the issues on these candidates or do we just believe what we read here.

Please go to the JK for Prez website and read his views on all issues and his vision for the future of the country.

Serious times need a serious President. Jk da man!

[NewYorkerfromMass]

7. "He has always promoted environmental and labor protections for overseas"

Yep. Kick for real Democrats

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

17. which claim is incorrect?

Please point it out:

1. Did Kerry pass NAFTA and GATT, yes or no?

2. Did Kerry exclude labor and environmental protections from NAFTA and GATT, yes or no?

3. Did Kerry include enforcement for corporations to sue to OVERTURN labor and environmental protections, yes or no?

The answer to each of these questions is yes - do you deny that?

[blm]

22. That was the legislation.

Kerry tried to put those measures in there legislatively and was defeated. You are probably aware of that aren't you? He's a free trader who worked for fairer trade measures. He can push it through as president.

Would you trust someone who NEVER advocated or offered legislation for those guidelines in their careers over Kerry?

[blm]

9. Yeah, that's why he worked on the Kyoto Protocol for 10 YEARS.

He believes in free trade and wants to take measures that insures FAIRNESS and health and environmental standards for ALL workers - US and global workers.

What a terrible idea.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

15. why did he keep them out of the FTAs, with no enforcement?

hmm? Why were the FTAs passed *without* the labor and environmental protections, and the side agreements with little or no enforcement mechanism?

Remember, Kerry DID include enforcements for corporations to overturn labor and environmental laws, but NOT the other way around.

Why?

[blm]

19. He does what he can and with the presidency he'll apply what he wants

and what he knows is best.

[sandnsea]

16. Starving people in 3rd world countries

What's your solution? And before you say different kinds of trade agreements, enforcement has to be done in ANY trade agreement. Kerry hasn't attended every international environmental conference just for kicks. He has been fighting corporate loopholes and corporate malfeasance his entire career. He is not a corporate sellout. Besides, you're not going to get any better than Kerry anyway. He's the best chance we've got to get some real changes in the way we interact with the world on these issues.

[WiseMen]

24. Can we agree that JK has the extensive progressive record, and

criticize him on other things if we have to.

[zulchzulu]

3. Hogwash!

Kidding... I agree. JK is da man.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

6. "Dean advisors urging him to soften the blow to the middle class"

"...today, even his own advisors say they are urging him to soften the blow to the middle class, and are worried about the politics of raising taxes on the middle class by $2300."

Looks like Kerry had solid info. Dean is realizing he was out of touch with real Americans.

[Forkboy]

8. How many of our dead soldiers in Iraq

are middle class?

[blm]

10. How many would still be dead if Biden-Lugar passed?

Apply fairness and logic.

[Forkboy]

11. I dont like BL either

one of the main reasons I don't like Dean.

I am applying fairness...they're both wrong.

[blm]

14. OK. I can accept that as a fair view.

It's the false sanctimony posts I won't give a pass.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

20. Common ground here: "I don't like Dean"

cool.

[sandnsea]

13. None

He wouldn't have taken us into that war. He would have let the inspections work and used the political will of the region to force a regime change in Iraq. He would never have done it with a unilateral war.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

21. thanks. nt

[sandnsea]

12. Right the first time, every time

He knows exactly what needs to be done, presents the facts and the solutions, and sticks by them no matter what. He's exactly who we need to put this country and the world on a new course for the next century.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

18. kick

[Lone Pawn]

23. Kerry's running for President?

But I thought it was just Dean and Clark!

[nancyharris]

25. Senator Kerry is my US Senator

and I have voted for him in each of his election races. He speaks a fine game, says all the right words and touches all the right buttons. However, he seldom fails to disappoint me when he is called upon to act upon his convictions.

His votes on NAFTA and GATT were the most disappointing. Senator Kerry, could have, had he the courage of his convictions, filibustered those bills to ensure they contained measures that protected environmental standards and worker health, safety and welfare. But as he has done so many times, he caved in. Perhaps it’s because he knows he has no political opposition and merely talking the hard fight (rather than actually fighting hard) will be enough for the people of Massachusetts. Unfortunately for him, it doesn’t work that way in the rest of the country.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

26. Oh stop. Even Al Gore was fine with NAFTA's environmental standards

or lack thereof- and Kerry's environmental endorsements make him the greenest candidate we've got. By far.

[blm]

27. Plus, Kerry was working on the Kyoto Protocol

to add guidelines for environmental protection world wide. It was a good companion for trade agreements and something he would implement as president.