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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:27 PM
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Obama uses hypnotism as speaking aid???? So says my Republican friend. He just heard it on some
right-wing talk show and repeated it to me. Anybody know anything about this?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:28 PM
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1. So if you find yourself leaning towards Obama
he's probably just hypnotizing you. :eyes:
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:29 PM
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4. Remember Xema, we are all high-ranking members of the Obamacult.
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kswheels Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:28 PM
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2. Well, considering hypnosis is bullshit...
This isn't really newsworthy.
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Kookaburra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:29 PM
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3. He's got RW talk show and The Mentalist mixed up.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:30 PM
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5. That's really funny:
"He just heard it on some right-wing talk show and repeated it to me".

You're friend is the very definition of hypnosis...by RW talk radio.


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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:31 PM
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10. Actually, I agree. RW radio is hypnosis and hate mongering mixed together.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:30 PM
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6. THAT explains it... now I get it...
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:30 PM
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7. Tell him right wing talk shows use hypnosis to push dumb-ass ideas
on gullible conservatives. Say you heard it on the web site of an international think tank.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:31 PM
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12. It's the new Kool Aid!
What an age we live in! Isn't technology a hoot?

:rofl:

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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:30 PM
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8. I guess so

:rofl:
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:30 PM
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9. Rush said that according to some thread posted earlier. n/t
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:34 PM
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20. I tried to nail him down to who said it, and he said he didn't know. Now I understand - he was ashe
ashamed to admit to me that he was listening to Rush. He know I can't abide Rush!
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nancyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:31 PM
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11. What a crock.
Well, then, I guess that certainly does explain it.
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InternalDialogue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:31 PM
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13. It totally works.
After listening to several Obama speeches in a row, I decided to become black.

I absolutely didn't expect that.

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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:32 PM
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14. Vatch ze vatch...


The mental implosion of republicans is SUCH a thing of beauty, isn't it?:D
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:32 PM
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15. And he believes it because
he likes being brainwashed by rw hatemongers.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:33 PM
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16. right wing hate radio hosts use bullshit as hypnotic devices and it seems to work.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:33 PM
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17. Yes, it's an 'argument from incredulity'
ie "I can't believe that anyone could trust Obama; therefore, there must be something going on that means they don't really trust him, like hypnosis". It's been doing the rounds of the more desperate RW blogs in the past week or so - someone looked up some long words about persuasion and hypnosis, and decided they can be applied to anyone who can make a good speech (you know, 'atriculate' or 'eloquent', as McCain repeatedly called Obama). Inevitably, it's got on to the desperate RW attack shows too.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:33 PM
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18. I know something about it
Your friend is a fucking idiot.
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RollWithIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:33 PM
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19. Why do people post moronic right wing idiot talking points here?
Like hey guys, I heard from a friend of mine that Obama is the antichrist and he drinks baby blood for breakfast, anyone hear about this?
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:37 PM
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22. I'm asking a legitimate question. I want to know what to answer back to my friend. I had never eve
even heard that rumor and still don't know exactly what I should say back to my friend.
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:45 PM
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28. Laugh, say "Wow, I never realized how gullible you are,"...
shake your head in concerned puzzlement and either change the subject or walk away. Do not dignify this silliness by entertaining an argument against it.

I did this is a co-worker who was always coming to me with right wing talking points. He's now voting for Obama because he eventually realized how stupid these right wing talking points are and started thinking for himself.

Make your friend stop and think about what he is saying and how stupid it sounds.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:50 PM
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34. You want to know what to answer back to your friend...
Your Republican friend who heard something about Obama on a right-wing talk show? You want to know what to tell him? Seriously? You seriously need advice about this?

I mean, what do you expect us to say?

1. We totally know that Obama uses hypnotism didn't you already know this where have you been?????!!!

or maybe you're hoping we'll say:

2. Gosh, I hadn't heard that. I guess that changes my entire opinion of Obama. I'll just switch my vote now. Thanks for the heads up from your Republican friend who listens to Rush on talk radio.

or maybe we'll just suggest that you ask your friend why he's such a gullible fool.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:53 PM
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37. your friend is not asking a legitimate question. Have you ever been to an Obama rally?
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 04:36 PM
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43. Say this:
We all use hypnotism. We're trained in hypnotism in liberal atrs programs.

<Hold up your hand and point at their eyes with your index and pinky finger>

I am going to count to five. As I count, I want you to relax and watch the tips of my fingers. You will feel very relaxed and comfortable.

One: you are feeling relaxed. You feel at peace.

Two: you are relaxed even more. You feel comfortable and content with the world...

By two, they will likely run away.
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:36 PM
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21. Maybe, just maybe, Obama has powers to dispel the hypnotic trance the GOP has
held over their base for the last 8 years! Surely these rethugs are not of sane mind after being spoon fed lies and hate by Faux Noise and Rush all this time!
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:38 PM
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23. Limbaugh is no longer grasping at straws
He's grasping at air.
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:38 PM
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24. We've all been OBAMNATIZED!!!!
This hypnosis bullshit is just another right wing excuse for losing. It can't be a repudiation of their ideas or a condemnation of their hate-filled rhetoric. Instead they need to ascribe magical reasons like hypnosis or demons.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:42 PM
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25. To be honest
the nearest thing I've seen to mass hypnosis is how the Rovepublicans repeatedly used 9/11 words and images.

If you read up on Philip Zelikow's area of expertise (Chairman of the 9/11 Commission) he has some interesting ideas on the subjects of "catastrophic terrorism" and shaping "public myths".
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:44 PM
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26. I saw a thread about it on the Hillary Clinton PUMA messageboard.
Someone posted the link to that site a week or so ago.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:45 PM
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27. someone posted that Rush talked about this morning..
so that means it's totally believable. :rofl:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:45 PM
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29. Why else would I hypnotize everyone on DU with my Obama HYPNOTOAD?
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:46 PM
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30. It must be true if your friend heard it on some right-wing talk show.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:46 PM
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31. Send him this...
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KsStorm Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:48 PM
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32. Yup
I've seen some Nuts on City Data forum babling this nonsense.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:49 PM
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33. Rush keeps talking about Obama being a "magic negro."
He can't shut up about it.
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NHDEMFORLIFE Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:52 PM
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35. Art Bell has an afternoon show now?
For those unacquainted with this particular lunatic, he is on in the middle of the night, talking about spaceships landing in the desert and other such burning issues.
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:52 PM
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36. As a speaking aid, to help with self confidence?
Technically, a great number of public speakers use what could erroneously be called hypnosis. Barack often uses a stylistic nuance called the "preacher roll". He builds, and builds, and then gives you the "punchline" - followed by another drop. It's very engaging, and usually only used by Black Baptist preachers - MLK used it effectively, for example.

What they do on RW radio and Fox can also falsely be called "hypnosis" they use fear, give a scapegoat to blame for your fear, incite hate of the scapegoat, and then give instructions. It's an authoritarian and incendiary style - employed by Hitler.

Both methods are known semi-scientific methods of oratory for capturing the hearts and minds of an audience.

This election has been the most interesting (unintentional) experiment in collective behavior I've ever seen. Usually hate and fear win, they're the more visceral feelings to human beings. This time hope and optimism are winning. It's a beautiful thing, like watching human evolution in real time. Brings a tear of joy to the eye on a regular basis. O8)
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 04:27 PM
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39. Thank you for a serious answer to a serious question, Now I understand and can make it clear to my
friend. Again, thanks for posting this.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 03:57 PM
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38. It's easy to hypnotise Repukes ...
just dangle a dollar bill in front of them and say "you are getting sleepy ..."
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 04:29 PM
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40. Someone who can string a sentence together without sounding like a jackass
Sure is hypnotizing to me.
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abbiehoff Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 04:32 PM
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41. This notion has been out there for a while.
Someone has spent a lot of time making this up.

See the whole document here:

http://www.pennypresslv.com/Obama%27s_Use_of_Hidden_Hypnosis_techniques_in_His_Speeches.pdf
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 04:43 PM
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45. That is seriously scary stuff. Such hate is very frightening. Mixed with ignorance - oh my.
Thanks for the link.
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Ino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 04:36 PM
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42. Suggest he listen to Obama himself & see if it's true. ( nt)
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 04:43 PM
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44. Your friend was listening to pea brain Rush,
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