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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 12:16 PM
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Chuck Todd: McCain 'conceding the popular vote'
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Chuck_Todd_McCain_conceding_popular_vote_1019.html

David Edwards and Stephen C. Webster
Published: Sunday October 19, 2008



Sunday morning, NBC's Tom Brokaw talked with MSNBC political analyst Chuck Todd about how the polls are shaping up just several weeks prior to the election. Todd told Brokaw that at this point, McCain appears to be "conceding the popular vote" in order to pursue victory through the Electoral College, similar to how outgoing President George W. Bush came to power.

Todd, making the argument that older voters could be the crucial demographic in the election's endgame, claimed there's been some evidence that they are shifting toward Obama.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 12:19 PM
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1. In other words; we will steal it again, regardless of how many Americans vote for Obama.
Edited on Sun Oct-19-08 12:20 PM by sparosnare
Because of the electoral college and swing states, they have the means.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 12:21 PM
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2. That's a losing strategy indicative of some kind of dirty trick plan
Bush did not "concede" the popular vote in 2000. He won through manipulation and voter suppression in Florida.

In 1888, Benjamin Harrison lost the popular vote, but won the election. That election was riddled with fraud.

In 1876, Rutherford B. Hayes also lost the popular vote, but also won the electoral college election by way of a fixed special commission that was set up to arbitrate the election.

In 1824 Andrew Jackson won the popular vote, but lost because the race was thrown to the House due to his failing to win an outright majority of the electoral college. He only had a plurality. The House ignored the popular vote and the electoral vote and picked John Quincy Adams.

What is it about sons of former presidents stealing elections?
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 12:33 PM
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3. At least the 1824 vote followed the Constitutional process n/t
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 12:39 PM
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5. He also won because Gore f'd up in two states: Tennessee and New Hampshire.
Had Gore carried either, he would have won.

McCain has a very difficult path to 270, far more difficult than Bush in 2000.
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Bravo Zulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 12:34 PM
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4. tuck chodd
is a tool!
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Captiosus Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 12:41 PM
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6. On Todd's map, which lags well behind every other tracking site,
McCain would have to steal, err I mean win, every 'toss up state' to win.
Every. Toss up. State.

Too bad, so sad, for Chucky that his map doesn't accurately reflect polls like the maps on FiveThirtyEight.com, RealClearPolitics.com, or, hell, even freakin' CNN.

Hey, Chucky, you might as well put Virginia in the blue column.
Everyone else has.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 12:44 PM
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7. McCain's strategy would depend upon Barack Obama rolling over.
I don't think Obama's about to do that.

He'll probably have about 15 or 20 million left over from the campaign. That would make one kickass legal fund if it should come to that.

The GOP, as usual, is fighting the last war. Obama will be ready should they try to steal this election.

- as
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