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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 03:01 PM
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ACORN question: Gatherers paid by hour or by registration?
Previously I had heard that ACORN employees who register people were paid by registration, which some took advantage of to defraud ACORN with phony registrations. Today, in this interview with Amy Goodman Bertha Lewis, Chief Organizer for ACORN, stated that the gatherers (my term) were paid hourly. Now, we know that some gatherers padded their records with bullshit registrations, and we know that ACORN had a system to weed out such foolishness and would even help to prosecute fraud, but what I want to know is how did this allegation that ACORN paid by the registration start? I've even heard in on Stephanie's show. So, mistake or disinformation floated out by whom?
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 03:02 PM
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1. My understanding is they are paid hourly to avoid such a charge...n/t
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 03:19 PM
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7. But they were often fired for not meeting quotas.
But this is still such a "non-issue", no stolen, or fraudulent votes.
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 03:33 PM
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11. You dont want people getting paid for nothing do you?
I mean were the quotas extreme? Or were there a few bad apples who spent the day at their friends house, collecting the hourly wage, and required a quota to prevent that abuse?
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 04:05 PM
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13. Not saying that at all, just pointing out the "incentive" some may have had.
I do not think this is a valid issue at all. Nothing new, or out of the ordinary, certainly nothing nefarious.
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 04:23 PM
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15. The real story here is our sorry election system...
Edited on Wed Oct-15-08 04:23 PM by kirby
The real story is how people who should not be able to vote, can vote.
And how the 'machines' that tabulate our votes cannot be trusted.

Funny how the repugs jump on this, but not the real issue which is with our sorry ass election system.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 03:03 PM
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2. I heard that the registrars had quotas to meet everyday.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 03:20 PM
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8. You "heard"? Do you think THAT is what the OP is seeking?
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 03:04 PM
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3. They were paid hourly. And I believe that ACORN was infiltrated by repukes
who were trying to smear the Obama campaign. I hope ACORN, with the help of the MSM, pushes this and has all those that ACORN fired investigated and tried in court.
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Blue Meany Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 03:15 PM
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4. Republican companies that are hired to register voters and
collect signatures, typically pay by the signature or registration, so they may be assuming that non-profits like ACORN do this to. Actually, I think ACORN did do this in the last presidential election but their fraudulent registration were eclipsed by those of Sproul (the Republican company that seems to have been paying only for Republican registrations and that discarded some registration forms for Democrats). This kind of fraud always occurs no matter who is conducting the compaign, but since the signatures/registrations are thrown out, these are really faux scandals.
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 03:19 PM
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6. Not so. In Oregon at least, where I did ACORN voter reg. in 04. I was paid on hourly basis. ~nt~
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 03:25 PM
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9. They are paid hourly..
if someone is non-productive they are re-trained. If that doesn't work they are let go. Sort of like every job I've ever had. The Republicans have been after them for years. The Attorney General Firing Scandal is tied up with ACORN as well.
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 03:17 PM
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5. Yes, workers are paid hourly. I worked for them in Oregon in 04.
personally, I think some of the "workers" may have been ReThug plants to sabatage ACORN, but also (although
workers are paid hourly, there IS A QUOTA system, whereby if someone doesn't get enough registrations on the
average, they are generally "let go"... so it probably is the case that some of the bogus reg. forms were
filled out by people trying to keep their jobs.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 03:28 PM
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10. I heard a discussion on KFI this AM about them being hourly but having
registration quotas. I wish I could remember who actually said that, whether it was an interview with ACORN people or what........
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 04:03 PM
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12. Oy. KFI.
KnowwhatImean?

Man, if KTLK had their outdoor advertising budget...
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 04:05 PM
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14. BY THE HOUR!
I have had friends work there.
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