Christopher Hitchens endorses Obama

[cameozalaznick]

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http://www.slate.com/id/2202163/

[featherman]

1. Can we reject it? Please.

[KansasVoter]

4. Why??? I am a fan!

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

13. "even if it does accept the support of the surrender faction,"

He's still the same douchebag he's always been.

[KansasVoter]

22. LOL.. Whatever!

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

26. Exactly. n/t

[nytemare]

46. He does say the ticket is not capitulationist

"Obama is greatly overrated in my opinion, but the Obama-Biden ticket is not a capitulationist one, even if it does accept the support of the surrender faction, and it does show some signs of being able and willing to profit from experience."

Although I have many disagreements with him regarding the Iraq War, I agree with him on many issues. On this, he shows he is not willing to toe the line, despite his leanings on this war.

I also admire that he put himself through waterboarding in order to gain first-hand experience to form an opinion on whether it was torture or not. He took a pretty strong stand against it, that can be seen here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LPubUCJv58

I will admit, he can be a bit sharp on the tongue, especially after drinking.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

59. No not the ticket just th rest of us I guess. After watching him

debate both George Galloway and Scott Ritter it made me realize how overrated his "intellect" is. So he took a stand against torture well good for him. Hopefully he also opposes domestic abuse. I mean to each his own but I still think think he's a jagoff.

[WinkyDink]

40. Hitchens has been a cheerleader for the Illegal Invasion, is why.

[madmax]

2. I'm stunned! n/t

[msallied]

3. Wow. If that drunkard neo-con apologist can see the light, maybe there IS hope for Dennis Miller.

Hitchens confuses me. I loved his book God is Not Great. But then he goes and agrees with the Bush Doctrine. WTF?

[Left Is Write]

8. I have God Is Not Great on my bookshelf, but I haven't read it yet.

My MIL gave it to me, and I just haven't had the inclination to study it yet.

[msallied]

12. It's a great book. But I understand your reluctance.

I felt the same way when someone else recommended it to me several months ago. I've been familiar with Hitchens's positions on the Iraq war for years. But I also knew he didn't used to be that way. He was a 9/11 convert.

[GimmeDANEger]

38. oh jesus, I thought your post read "my MILF."

I was about to flag the post for incest. This is why I shouldn't get high before participating in democracy. :hippie:

But yeah, this is huge. I think that since Hitchens turned to the darkside, a good chunk of moderate republicans have become fans. We should, for the next three works or so, forget the knife he put in our backs...methinks.

[Occam Bandage]

15. Well, Hitchens hates religion, he especially hates radical religion,

and radical Islam is the primary target of the Iraq invasion from the neoconservative perspective. Therefore, Hitchens likes the Iraq war, in a sterling example of how atheism can lead one to abhorrent viewpoints just as theism can.

[msallied]

17. His logic is flawed.

Because the neocon perspective pits one form of religious radicalism (Christianity) against another (Islam). Because he refuses to see that, he's an absolute fool.

[Occam Bandage]

21. Ah, but not from the neoconservative perspective.

That would be from our perspective, and from the religious right's perspective. From the neoconservative perspective, Western liberalism (in the broad and not the American sense) is the best and only cure for radicalism, and therefore spreading it by any means available is just and necessary. He sees radical Christianity is offensive as well, but as a circumstantial and temporary ally against a greater evil.

He's wrong, of course; he looks at the evil of radical Islam but completely ignores the evil done by those fighting it.

[msallied]

23. You speak truth.

The neocon dogma sickens me.

[Cha]

33. Oh, he and his logic

are flawed.

[volstork]

31. Bush Doctrine?

In what respect, Charleee?

[msallied]

36. LOL!

[occe]

5. Who's Christopher Hitchens?

I'm not trying to be funny, can someone sum him up for me? I've never heard of him.

[WinkyDink]

41. Google.

[occe]

42. Thanks

For your kind, helpful reply ;)

[WI_DEM]

6. he says: Vote for Obama McCain lacks the character and temperament to be president. And Palin is

simply a disgrace." I Love it.

[occe]

7. .

dupe

[cameozalaznick]

14. He's a brit neocon conservative who wrote a book called

God Is Not Great. He always hated Bill Clinton.

[occe]

44. sums it up

Thanks!

[Laurab]

61. He's also a well-known writer for "Vanity Fair"

I've never been a fan of his, although it's my favorite magazine. He recently had a "makeover", and maybe got some sense returned to him, too.

[SeeHopeWin]

9. Can I get an AMEN?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Occam Bandage]

10. Um, great. Can we send it back?

Angry anti-theist, pro-war radicals don't exactly have broad appeal.

[Beregond2]

19. Exactly.

Kind of like getting an endorsement from Bin Laden, as far as how much good it will do us.

[rusty_parts2001]

11. Was he sober?

[msallied]

16. He seems to fancy himself an intellectual.

He's an asshole who has made some salient points on certain topics, then completely sold himself out.

[anneboleyn]

29. Yes, he is a completely self-important Oxford type who writes wildly polemical books while drunk

He likes to stir things up and get attention for his half-researched books. He was educated at Oxford and so considers himself above Americans especially.

[anneboleyn]

37. Despite the fact that I don't love Hitchens his points here are sharp indeed

[WinkyDink]

43. Let us not denigrate brilliance and illustrious education, as Republicans do.

Hitchens may be off-base with some of his political stands, and maybe even his religious ones, but he IS a bona fide intellectual.

[nytemare]

48. And a good journalist

Who is unafraid of doing things like getting waterboarded to form his opinions, rather than let others form them for him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LPubUCJv58

[Ozma]

20. Woderful picture, there! Yes, I think we can send him back to

wherever he comes from.

He one of those pseudo-intellectuals who thinks more of himself than anyone else in the world.

Hitchens just wants to be on the side that is winning... and doesn't want to look like a fool trying to make up reasons to support McCain. That would spoil his intellectual image.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

24. Hey for all you ladies out there, I don't think he's taken yet. Although he's

already married to the bottle.

[msallied]

25. I prefer to drink my alcohol from glasses...

and not from the shirts of drunk British dudes. LOL

[vanderBeth]

45. How could I refuse. I'm only flesh and blood.

:sarcasm:

[Kurt Remarque]

18. we'll take it!

[davidinalameda]

27. yick

Hitchens is a douche

[RollWithIt]

28. He wrote a series of articles about visiting with the family of a dead US infrantryman....

The kid told his parents that he'd read one of Hitchens articles and that's one of the reasons he enlisted. It's really a very good essay, and he questions himself throughout on why he was an earlier supporter of the war and whether he was wrong or not.

Anyways, I'll take the endorsement. He's not as terrible as some make him out to be. Though he could cut some of the scotch out of his diet.

[progressivebydesign]

30. Whoa. That is hugh!1! Seriously. I'm speechless. n/t

[Forkboy]

32. It's like being endorsed by a skin disease.

[msallied]

34. Hi! I'm Herpes! And I endorse Barack Obama for President!

:rofl:

[Forkboy]

47. LOL...see how similar it is?

:)

[Captain Hilts]

62. Exactly. nt

[RoadRage]

35. This is awesome if for no other reason then

utterly confusing the Republicans who worship at his feet, and are now not sure what to do. "Well, I hate Obama, and I thought he was a secret muslim infiltrator sent directly from Afghanistan by Osama.. but if Hitchens thinks he's better then Obama/Palin.. mabye I outta take another look".

Sheep are stupid.. and there are many, many sheep that follow this dude.

[nytemare]

50. I don't think too many republicans really worship Hitchens

with him being an Atheist, and all.

[DrPresident]

39. I've never heard of a neo-con who was an atheist.

I guess I need to get out more. LOL

[doc03]

49. Is that good?

[Doctor_J]

51. Is he trying get his "Nation" gig back?

england's biggest fan of Operation Iraq Liberation has seen the light through his whiskey bottle.

[AtomicKitten]

52. I don't even know what to think about this.

Hitchens is an interesting guy. The first article I read by him was on Mother Theresa. As ex-Catholic, I found it outrageously hilarious. And I've frequently seen him interviewed with what appears to be a cocktail in his hand which is really Rat Packy. But, he's also rather rightwing when it comes to matters of war and peace.

Well, hey, it's one vote. Hooray.

[TheDonkey]

53. Holy mother of God. Great pic of Obama in the article btw

Very JFK

[stillcool]

54. Was he sober?

[RFKHumphreyObama]

55. Hitchens shows occasional signs of having a conscience

When his ego and his own sense of self-importance don't exceed his intellect (unfortunately this is too rarely the case), he can be quite an engaging read. I admire, for example, his willingness to undergo waterboarding to see whether it is torture and his willingness to stand up and his compelling argument that voting fraud denied Kerry victory in 2004. He also gains points from me for his stance on Kissinger

Unfortunately too often he feels the need to sell himself out or make a name for himself. His advocacy of the Iraq War, his cheerleading against Fahrenheit 9/11 and so on have diminished his reputation from my perspective

[Dr Fate]

56. Does this mean the folks at Bombay Sapphire will be sending Obama a check?

After all, Hitch is the one single-handedly putting their kids through college- it's the least they can do...

[SOS]

57. The political philosophy of Hitchens in photo form:

[Soup Bean]

58. I kind of like Hitchens. He makes me think.

He's not a neo-con. He's just an ass. But he's a thoughtful ass. I agree sometimes, sometimes I disagree. However, he is good for the discussion.

[Yukari Yakumo]

60. Not so much an endorsement of Obama than...

That is not so much an endorsement of Obama than a condemnation of the McPain/Painlin ticket. Just look at the title: "Vote for Obama McCain lacks the character and temperament to be president. And Palin is simply a disgrace."

[Tommy_Carcetti]

63. Jimmy crack corn...

...and I don't care.

Christopher Hitchens is the farthest person who's opinion matters to me.

[democrat2thecore]

64. The Socialist Hitchens Is Back?

I've seen him on several things lately and it seems the old liberal Christopher Hitchens from the 80's and 90's may be making a comeback. Besides his views on "the wars" has he repudiated his socialism? He was a good old-fashioned European socialist when I used to read Hitchens back in the day.

On Edit: I just looked it up and, indeed, he told Charlie Rose in August of 2007 that he's still a democratic Socialist.

[leftynyc]

65. I'm trying to think

of whose endorsement would matter less to me and I'm having trouble coming up with somebody.

[SteppingRazor]

66. So has Christopher Buckley, son of William F. Truly, the Apocalypse is at hand.

;)

[SteppingRazor]

68. Update: Dennis Hopper has also endorsed Obama.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/14/bush-supporter-dennis-hop_n_134433.html

:wow:

[Canuckistanian]

67. Looks like Obama has captured the Gin Soaked Popinjay vote

But he's still down among the Addlepated Nincompoop demographic.

[southpaw]

69. Awesome

I may disagree with Hitchens on U.S. foreign policy, but I welcome his endorsement.