I hate to say it, but Palin's doing much better than Biden is . . .

[EffieBlack]

She's looking right into the camera while he looks at the moderator. She's talking in clear concise soundbytes, he's long-winded.

He needs to get on his game . . .

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

1. I agree

[Stephist]

2. I hate to say it but

You must be watching some other debate. She is awful.

[Shanti Mama]

3. Give it time.

[loyalkydem]

4. what game

Joe's doing great. He's nailing her on point per point.

[EffieBlack]

18. He's making more sense, but she's looking and sounding better, sharper, clearer

I think people don't listen as much to the substance as deal with impressions. She's making a good impression. She's looking not dumb, not scary, not empty-headed, regardless of the reality.

[PaDUer]

61. What about her wanting

more POWER as VP than what is now...is that the CHANGE she wants? She wants to be queen-bee..

[okieinpain]

70. that's just you, you're surprised that she's not drooling on herself.

[AllieB]

5. We're saying the same thing here. He needs to come out swinging NOW!!!

[Onlooker]

6. You're so wrong

She's coming off as a dim-bulb, not responding to questions, using too many cute phrases, and winking at the audience. Biden is playing it safe, but he's doing well.

[cwydro]

7. He needs to get geared up

[PretzelWarrior]

8. that's what they said about Obama in the religious face off

and he is now ahead by 6 to 8 points. Not worried about your "sound bite" analysis.

[graywarrior]

9. She's faking it.

[Jackeens]

I agree too - shit!

[blonndee]

12. I'm so suprised at this post.

:eyes:

[Jackeens]

42. Just an honest opinion - try it some time!

[blonndee]

52. Um-hm.

[IDemo]

10. I hate to say it, but dancing around the question does not equal 'doing better'

[K Gardner]

11. It's quite obvious, ALL her answers have been memorized. I respectfully disagree :-)

[Doityourself]

13. NO frickin' way...lol

[undeterred]

14. She's lying.

[ShadowLiberal]

15. Yeah, worse yet the media has set it up so that anything less then a huge Palin screw up = Palin win

[gabby garcia]

16. Oh My God!

The "wink" worked - you're falling under "The Palin Spell"!

:evilfrown:

[EffieBlack]

32. *I'm* not under her spell. But I know that plenty of people watching this fall for this crap and

she's pouring it on.

Biden is doing a little better now, though. I hope he ratchets it up. Maybe he's playing rope-a-dope and getting her confidence up so that she starts getting sloppy.

[CalGator]

17. you may need to cut back on the pre-debate drinking

[Bubbha Jo]

19. Not now,,, he's sailing talking about tax cuts..... he's passionate about it.

[Bubbha Jo]

25. It dropped a ton when she started talking about taxes.......

[Rosa Luxemburg]

20. someone tell him to kick it up a notch he sounds too quiet

[bajamary]

21. Joe is doing okay

Joe is holding his own. It's not a beauty pagent, or is it????

[EffieBlack]

43. Unfortunately, if on October 2, you are STILL undecided

I don't expect you to be a real whiz on the issues . . . many of the people they're playing to are, in my view, easily swayed by bull.

But he is doing better now, so I'm feeling a little better.

[TwixVoy]

22. Bullshit

[951-Riverside]

I think the McCain/Palin ticket rocks! thats why im votin for them

I can't believe the GOP pays me to post these messages on DU. :sarcasm:

[oviedodem]

23. she is being "hokey" it will play well

[RayOfHope]

No, I don't think so. She isn't answering the fucking questions n/t

[OneSelf]

24. WRONG!

And now Biden is engaging the camera, it's all good.

[quakerboy]

26. She is doing what she does well

Avoiding real answers and making it a living room chat with your neighbor. The one who you know isn't any smarter than you are, but who has a better car so she must know... something.

Biden is speaking intelligently. It does sound more long winded. That is unfortunate.

[1Hippiechick]

27. You forgot to add your "sarcasm" thingy......n/t

[The empressof all]

28. She's entertaining

She's good at engaging with the camera. But her answers are just babble strung together to seem like she knows what she's talking about.

[bridgit]

29. Ooooh, I'm certainly not quite there yet...

[high density]

30. Biden is looking into the camera enough

She looks like she's gazing into the camera like an idiot.

[bridgit]

36. Agreed, there's a proper balance to these things and Palin is off the chart the wrong way...

[ProSense]

31. Wow, what standards:

smile, look at the camera = wins debate.

[Dukkha]

33. being flirtatious is not debating

[LeftinOH]

34. If this were a college debate, she'd fail --because she's not debating..............n/t

[Rowdyboy]

35. Apparently we're watching different debates......cheers! n/t

[KingFlorez]

37. Oh, please

How can anyone think she's doing well? She's talking in circles to avoid the questions.

[ShadowLiberal]

38. Now Biden's doing a lot better, awesome attack on McCain's $5000 tax credit on healthcare

[Zuiderelle]

49. That was beautiful. Very clearly explained.

[Cybergata]

39. Biden is doing great

He is directly answering the questions, and she is hedging. He had gotten some very smart points in as well as turning some of her responses inside out and showing how wrong she is. He isn't attacking her, he is attacking John McBlinky. That is very smart.

[progressivebydesign]

Oh bullshit. McCain was trashed for doing the same thing.

It's a fucking debate, NOT a speech. I see the usual suspects are singing Caribou Barbie's praises. Nice, really nice,

[Hugabear]

40. Are you even LISTENING to what they're saying?

I don't give a good goddamned how she fucking looks. He is absolutely DESTROYING her if you actually bother to listen to what they're syaing!

[EffieBlack]

50. *I'M* listening, but unfortunately, many people who are stuck in the middle get caught up in

appearances.

[elizm]

41. Totally disagree. nt

[Zuiderelle]

44. I disagree completely. Couldn't disagree more.

He's clear and smart and explaining McCain's lies quite well.

[Lady-Damai]

45. At first.....I would have agreed.....now her answers are not making sense..

Plus her voice is hurting my ears..... :-(

[treestar]

46. BS - that's not all that important

It's not the only thing.

[Lavender Brown]

The only thing I see is that he seems very tired

No big surprise given his campaign schedule of flying all over the place. Otherwise I think he's doing great. :thumbsup:

[Waiting For Everyman]

47. I don't agree. He's doing great, and she's weak.

[Doremus]

48. He's kicking it up NOW! Bridge to Nowhere!!!

[EffieBlack]

53. He's doing better.

[sniffa]

51. To idiots, yes

Hopefully, none are watching.

I'm sick of the fucking smirking, then non-answers, and the robotic recitation.

[Ichingcarpenter]

54. Effie............... thanks for your pity thread

its so useful.

And you are wrong.

[Borgnine]

55. No, she's already lost it.

She only has about ten minutes of folksy charm in her. When that's used up, as it is now, or she can't "cute" her way out of a situation, she begins to panic.

[AngryOldDem]

56. She's not saying anything.

You know the drill. If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullshit. But I don't think she has neither the intelligence nor skill to pull that off for 90 minutes.

[Swede Atlanta]

57. Stealth

I have said for some time that her recent interviews were intended to give the impression of someone who is totally clueless. So I went into tonight with a sense that this would be more competitive than many think.

Chill out a little. Biden is a seasoned debater. He has been in Congress for a number of years, has been a law school professor. She has shot moose and gotten knocked up a few times. Give this time. Joe is going to do quite well.

To be honest as long as Joe does not harm and the new two presidential debates end with Barack doing no harm we are going to be in a good position come Nov 4.

[Raine]

58. She's rambling now, LOL. nt

[nyc 4 Biden]

59. WHAT! Biden is DESTROYING her!

I respectfully disagree with the OP!

[workinclasszero]

60. Someone said the same thing about Obama's debate

and he's been flying up the pools every since.

[WinkyDink]

62. I finally get connected, and THIS is what I come back to? Good grief.

[kid a]

63. ROBOTIC LIAR

[SarahB]

64. Sure, if you want a fucking jar of Smuckers jelly for Vice President.

Down home goodness.
Depth and insight of a rock.

[jillan]

65. He did better in the second half.

[dailykoff]

66. Except this isn't a florida orange juice commericial.

She's a ditz.

[Naturyl]

67. I disagree.

Biden won this debate.

Palin exceeded expectations, but she did not win.

[HughMoran]

68. She sounded so moronic on radio

I don't know what you were watching, but Biden was warm & knowledgable and she was sounding like Tina Fey!

Rambling generalities with that horrible accent and moronic right-wing talking points.

[and-justice-for-all]

69. He might be long winded, but at least he answered the question.

[pookieblue]

71. I feel like I just watched a 90min mcsame informerical...

did anyone catch that 800 number?

She was awful!! And those winks.....

Biden called her on some of her comments.

but there were several questions she never answered.

I guess she did well in that she knew all her lines....