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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:42 PM
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Reid: McCain interfering with progress on bailout
Reid: McCain interfering with progress on bailout
By J. Taylor Rushing
Posted: 09/25/08 01:30 PM


Senate Democratic leaders accused John McCain on Thursday of interfering with progress on a Wall Street bailout, saying the Republican presidential candidate is parachuting into the debate at the last minute.

Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said McCain has played an insignificant role on banking issues and is now trying to capitalize on the situation when it is nearly concluded — a point echoed by other Democratic leaders.

Sen. McCain (R-Ariz.) announced Wednesday he is suspending his presidential campaign to help with the last stage of negotiations on a $700 billion plan to stabilize the U.S. financial markets. But Democrats have quickly pointed out that McCain serves on neither the Senate Banking nor Finance committees and is now distracting key negotiators by bringing his presidential campaign into an already complex political process.

“If we lose progress on this because of one person, that’s John McCain,” Reid said. “He’s standing in the way.”

At the same time, Reid downplayed McCain’s past contributions, noting that he is “one of 100” and has offered more than one position this week on the financial plan.

“He’s had trouble making up his mind, so if John McCain is opposed to this, that’s too bad,” Reid said. “I think he’s standing in the way of our efforts at approving this legislation now.”

more...

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/reid-mccain-interfering-with-progress-on-bailout-2008-09-25.html
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:43 PM
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1. They need to be on the Talk Shows saying this
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:45 PM
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7. I guess unlike McCain they actualy have a job to do... But yes I agree
This needs to be pointed out prominently.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:50 PM
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18. Barney Frank was just on CNBC saying the same thing....
Edited on Thu Sep-25-08 01:50 PM by 1corona4u
that one of the republicans had no complaints with the proposed plan for the bailout, until AFTER he met with mccain. He also cautioned that this is not a done deal.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:43 PM
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2. Wooooo- Get 'em Harry!
Seems like our guys are on a roll this week.

The McCain campaign is imploding and even the news media are starting to cover the obvious.
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habitual Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:44 PM
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3. k+r n/t
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:44 PM
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4. This must be what Barney Frank was talking about...n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:45 PM
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6. I'm sure. Frank seems to be the House mouth for the Dems;
I don't quite understand why Pelosi doesn't want to get involved. And Reid's been good the past couple of days.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:58 PM
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23. Frank is the head of the House financial committee, isn't he?
This is his game.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 02:05 PM
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26. I'm just drawing the correlation between Reid and Pelosi.
I don't think Reid is on the Senate finance committee, but that's not stopping him.

http://www.senate.gov/general/committee_membership/committee_memberships_SSFI.htm

Members: Members:
Baucus, Max (MT) , Chairman
Rockefeller, John D. (WV)
Conrad, Kent (ND)
Bingaman, Jeff (NM)
Kerry, John F. (MA)
Lincoln, Blanche L. (AR)
Wyden, Ron (OR)
Schumer, Charles E. (NY)
Stabenow, Debbie (MI)
Cantwell, Maria (WA)
Salazar, Ken (CO)

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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 02:57 PM
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30. Well, Reid is nothing if not an outspoken, gnarly old dude. Pelosi is a tepid moron.
Just my angle on the subject. Nothing factual here. Well, except for the Pelosi thing. lol
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:44 PM
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5. if John McCain is opposed to this, that’s too bad,” Reid said.
If John McCain is against this and Obama votes for it, then McCain can use it as a big campaign issue.

It will be too bad for Democrats and the world.
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TooBigaTent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:48 PM
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14. Exactly. If the Dems aid & abet this theft from "we the people" - election day will not be good.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:54 PM
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21. McCain was just saying yesterday a deal had to be reached by Friday..
does he want a deal or not?
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:57 PM
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22. No, he doesn't want a deal. That way he has a way out of the debates.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 03:06 PM
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32. COUNTRY FIRST111!!!!...N/T
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:45 PM
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8. I'm beginning to think this hasn't been McCain's best week. Give 'em hell, Harry!
YES!
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:46 PM
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9. It's almost as if...
...McCain doesn't want this to be resolved by friday?
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SeeHopeWin Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:46 PM
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10. Bingo!!! I just posted on this....
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my2sense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:47 PM
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11. Good thing they are calling him out on his BS
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:47 PM
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12. That is one great way to kill the McCain plan of taking credit
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:47 PM
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13. McCain got his Depends in a twist over not being needed or wanted
and now he'll try to scuttle the whole thing. I hope this sinks his campaign as quickly as he's managed to sink this deal.
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:48 PM
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15. I wish Barney Frank would just
stand on the steps of the Senate building and say: "This guy is an asshole!"

That would be great. :)
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 02:09 PM
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29. I don't think that moment is far off
:rofl:
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:49 PM
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16. The Mavrick becomes The Obstructionist.
Get out of the way, John!
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:49 PM
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17. finally doing something useful
whatever slows down and hopefully stops this massive give away is good in my book. There is immense public anger about these bailouts and it does us no good to get a proposal that will give all of the vulnerable Repugs political cover. If any bill is proposed, then unless every single member of the House and Senate signs on as a co-sponsor and votes in favor, there should be nothing done until after the election. A lot of us are going to get some October surprises when we open our monthly or quarterly 401K, IRA, whatever statements in a couple of weeks. We need that anger directed at those responsible - Bush, McCain, Gramm, all of the de-regulatory ideologues. If anything is passed that even remotely smells like a bailout, that anger will be directed at the Democrats.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:52 PM
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19. Too bad all of this isn't televised. Seriously. nt
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Shardik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:53 PM
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20. Of course he wants to obstruct an agreement.
He doesn't want to debate a Harvard magna cum laude with a Doctorate who speaks concisely and can think on his feet.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 02:00 PM
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25. A JD is not really a doctorate....
More like a masters' degree.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 03:09 PM
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33. Juris Doctor not a doctorate?
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 03:11 PM
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34. No, it's more like a doctorate.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 05:18 PM
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41. Calling it a juris doctor doesn't it make it like a PhD
They're different beasts entirely. A JD is a professional degree, not unlike an MPH.

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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 06:28 PM
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43. Sorry, you're incorrect.
Edited on Thu Sep-25-08 06:36 PM by Harvey Korman
A JD is a doctorate, not a master's degree. The requirements are different, the length and rigor of study are different, the standards are different.

A JD is a professional degree, but it is a doctorate. A PhD is a different type of degree, granted, but they are both doctorate-level degrees.

The evidence for this fact is that you need a JD to be a law professor, not a PhD. You can't teach graduate level courses full-time at most accredited schools with a master's degree in anything.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 07:43 PM
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44. Let me put it this way- can an attorney use the title of respect "Dr."
Edited on Thu Sep-25-08 08:43 PM by depakid
No, he or she cannot- because despite the appellation Juris Doctor- it's recognized that that's not what it is!

Neither here nor in commonwealth nations (where as I mentioned- you may or may not get a JD- an LLB is essentially the same deal, in terms of what you can do with it professionally).

Interestingly- advanced degrees in law have gained in popularity in the states (and not for the usual specialty reasons like tax or international law- but because, among other reasons, it was understood that a JD is only "worth" so much on the academic level).
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 11:04 PM
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46. That's a matter of convention.
Yet again, let me restate: a JD and a PhD are both doctorate-level degrees. In fact, you cannot be a law professor without a JD, even if you have a PhD. Why? Because a JD is the equivalent doctorate-level degree in the field of law. Just a PhD in English is useless to teach biology, there is only one doctorate level degree qualifying one to teach law at the graduate level: JURIS DOCTOR. Advanced degrees in law (like the J.S.) are exceedingly rare, and pretty much irrelevant on a practical basis since most professors at top-tier law schools are juris doctors.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 03:16 PM
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37. A JD certainly is a doctorate
Juris Doctor to be exact.

Years ago when one wanted to become a lawyer usually no undergraduate education was required or sought and thus the degree conferred after law school was a LLB, or Bachelor of Laws. This was changed sometime in the 1960s when undergraduate admission to law schools was uniformly required and in recognition of the fact that a law school degree takes 3 years beyond an undergraduate degree.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 05:20 PM
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42. In other English common law nations, it's not a graduate degree- although it can be
you start the course of study right after secondary school.
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dee15644 Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 02:00 PM
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24. Good!
Good I hope it does fall through! but if McCain gets blamed it will probably help him in the polls
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 02:07 PM
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27. Let the Republicans vote first. Get them all on the record first. /n
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nycmjkfan Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 02:08 PM
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28. WOW
Reid finally put on his big boy pants today
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 03:01 PM
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31. Kickety!
:kick:
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 03:13 PM
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35. Give 'em hell, Harry!! n/t
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 03:13 PM
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36. What if the public is opposed?
Oh goodie, let's give McCain an opportunity to distance himself from Bush and the bailout! :eyes:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 03:26 PM
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38. Note the term "bailout?"
This is how Americans will view any package I fear? Bailing out wallstreet....
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 05:02 PM
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39. Yes, apparently it has ground to a halt.
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Madam Mossfern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 05:05 PM
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40. I'm watching now
and boy does Dodd look pissed!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 07:45 PM
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45. senator chris dodd said the bu$h* meeting was 2 hours of political theater....mcbu$h*
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