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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:19 PM
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McCain on why he chose Palin: "I based it on what's best for the country"
Does he think anyone can possibly believe this?
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:20 PM
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1. No...He's just evil...only evil can lie like that....pure evil.....
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:21 PM
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2. He should keep saying that.....
It says a lot about his judgement.
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Lancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:22 PM
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3. Why does McCain hate America? n/t
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:22 PM
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4. He believes his own lies.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:23 PM
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5. Will somebody please stop that crazy old man from repeatedly pushing the "I FAIL" button???
He just won't stop!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:23 PM
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6. Riiiight.. Have you heard about this bridge near me that I can sell you very cheap?
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PlanetBev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:23 PM
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7. Wait till Rachel, Tweety and Keith get a hold of that one
:rofl:
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:24 PM
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8. The best thing for the country is whacko? n/t
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:26 PM
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9. McCain's country consists of 3,000,000 people.
He represents the richest 1%. The remaining 99% are 2nd or 3rd-class citizens - little better than slaves, in his mind.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:28 PM
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10. Yeah, like deregulation mcstupid doesn't
have a twit's chance of knowing what's "good for the country".
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:29 PM
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11. I'm beginning to think...
that McCain's nickname for his dick is 'Country'.
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jsmyth Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:30 PM
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12. But what country?
We all know that John McCain spent 5 ½ years as a POW in North Vietnam. But do we know what happened during that time? There are closely held rumors that McCain was subjected to intense brain-washing by North Vietnam and Russian KGB agents. You may be aware of the movie The Manchurian Candidate which tells the story much like this rumor. As a POW, the character of the movie was brainwashed by his captor in a plot to ultimately control the outcome of an election.

There has been debate for years as to the extent of Soviet KGB and GRU (Soviet military intelligence) involvement in attempts to "turn" American POWs, with attempts by the Pentagon, supported always by McCain, to deny that the Soviets were involved in any such activity. Nevertheless, there was extensive testimony in Congress that POWs were interrogated and possibly recruited.

Events that provide credence to this rumor that McCain may be under foreign influence include his time on the United States Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs. On this committee, McCain was an attack dog against the POW/MIA activists that were pushing for a resolution to the status of POW/MIAs. McCain attacked anyone and everyone working to keep the search alive. McCain demanded and received a U.S. Justice Department investigation of two major POW/MIA activist groups..McCain showed more interest in bettering relations with Vietnam, in consort with greedy U.S. big business interests, than resolving the POW/MIA issue by accounting for the missing men; in McCain's case his FELLOW POWs.
Have you watched McCain in speeches? He seems to be sending code using eye blinks. Is he talking to his handler?
More recently, McCain abandoned his hard-felt beliefs as a maverick and independent as soon as he was a serious candidate for president. These examples of 180 degree flip flops can only be explained by some force greater than that of a man of principal. Some examples of this include the following.

McCain authored a bill in 2005 that would provide a path for illegal immigrants to obtain a legal status. Then once in the presidential race he said he would not vote for his own bill – what kind of a man feels so strong about a topic that he would introduce a bill and then later say he would not vote for his own bill – did circumstances change? Only the fact that he needed to be accepted by the right-wing to get elected and he was willing to sell his soul to the devil – or the KGB to get there. Must-get-elected- must-get-elected ….

McCain really wanted to have his friend (and fellow hawk) Senator Joe Lieberman as a running mate. But because Lieberman was not acceptable to his base, he picked an unknown, unqualified, and scandal-ridden Sarah Palin as his running mate in a desperate attempt to pull an upset. As a 72 year-old man with a history of cancer, McCain has a nearly 30% chance of dying during two terms in office –leading to a high probability that someone with no national experience, no foreign relations experience, and the belief that Iraq is a Holy War, would end up as president AND Commander and Chief. Who in their right mind would do this? Must-get-elected.-Must-get-elected…

As you might guess, McCain was against torture prior to becoming a contender. In fact, in 2005 he added an amendment to the Defense Appropriations bill that would prohibit inhumane treatment of prisoners, including prisoners at Guantanamo Bay. McCain even fought and prevailed against a threatened veto by the Bush white house. But candidate McCain voted for an intelligence bill that sanctioned torture. McCain of all people – after suffering 5 ½ years of beatings in North Viet Nam - is now OK with torture. How –and better yet WHY - would someone with his background and such strong beliefs that he would fight the white house – all of a sudden change his mind on such a fundamental subject? This isn’t a choice between Pepsi and Coke – I’ll have no torture – no I changed my mind – I’ll have the torture. First McCain sponsors a bill to prevent torture then candidate McCain declares the supreme court’s decision that habeas corpus protections apply to detainees held at Guantanamo Bay, as “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country.” Would a man of principals simply change his mind on such a fundamental topic? What would cause such a severe about-face? All I can think of is such an unbridled drive to become president that he would do ANYTHING to get there. Must-get- elected-must-get-elected-must-get-elected…
In 1999 and during the 2000 Presidential campaign, McCain scolded the “special interests in Washington” that sought offshore drilling leases. Today candidate McCain says drill-drill-drill. Must-get-elected- must-get-elected…

In 1999, McCain saw no need to overturn Roe Vs Wade. Later, Candidate McCain said “I do not support Roe Vs Wade, it should be overturned. In '00 and '07, McCain Called for Exceptions in the GOP's Platform on Abortion for Rape, Incest, and potential issues related to the Mother's Life. Today candidate McCain who is charge of that platform and in a position to make these exceptions is full-bore pro-life with no mention of exceptions. Furthermore, he selected Sarah Palin who is a right-to-life hawk. Must-get-elected-must-get-elected.

Other examples:
• Against Warrantless Wiretapping - now he’s for it.
• Against Privatizing Social Security - now he’s FOR it.
• For Liberman-Warner to curb Global Warming - now he’s Against it
• McCain promises “not to take the low road to the higher office in the land”, then turns so negative that Karl Rove said he went too far---Karl-the-king-of-slime-Rove

The list goes on and on.

So back to the question at hand. Why is a self-professed maverick –someone that has a reputation of fighting his own party, suddenly abandoning hard-felt fundamental principals? Many brainwashing victims become fractured personalities – and clearly John McCain is a fractured personality.

But to answer the question – he is doing these about face flip flops to get elected at any cost. So the possibilities for this are:
1) McCain was brainwashed by communists and was a sleeper agent for years then activated by becoming the party’s nominee for president,
2) He really has changed many deep fundamental beliefs, or
3) He’s just doing whatever it takes to get elected because he wants to be ppresidet.

Let’s look at these possibilities. If #1 above is true, we really can’t blame McCain. He was literally beaten and brainwashed. This is bad for the US, but McCain is not culpable. If #2 is the case, then McCain has a real case of Schizophrenia. In this case, the person you think you are electing will probably have really different beliefs by the time he is in office-God knows what he will be for next year. As further proof, Schizophrenia is characterized by disorganized speech and thinking-I think these symptoms are obvious. If #3 is the case, then Country First is bullshit- Its McCain first at any cost –even to the point of abandoning his most fundamental stances and selling out his own views for the support of the far right to get elected.

I’m not sure which is worse!

Note that McCain’s slogan “Country First” doesn’t say which country!



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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:38 PM
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18. I'll take what's behind door number three, Monty. n/t
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 10:14 PM
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24. Excellent post; however
in order to believe the rumors that he was brainwashed, you first must believe he actually HAD a brain. No matter how hard I try, I just can't get there from here.:rofl: I jest, but I am serious about your post. It really good-makes you think.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:31 PM
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13. She is Ms PNAC
for those of you who don't know she is promoted by the neo nazi/conservative branch. Mr McMansions didn't get a say in it. He'd better watch his back.
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vanderBeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:32 PM
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14. bullSHIT
He choose her because he couldn't get his BFF and a last ditch attempt for the ELECTION, not the for country.
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mokawanis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:33 PM
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15. Everyone who sees that knows it's bullshit
and I suppose the person interviewing him let it pass?
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:35 PM
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16. That's just mind boggling. Some ignorant Northern Exposure Ellie Mae is what is best
for the country?

That's it. He has Alzheimer's for sure.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 09:37 PM
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17. Mooseshit.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 10:00 PM
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19. Did you expect him to say, he made a mistake??
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 10:02 PM
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20. Giant

LIE!

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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 10:06 PM
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21. Yes! Because he thinks we are stupid
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willbbalin Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 10:08 PM
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22. .
Mccain is cracking me the fuck up...he is an idiot

::watching interview on cbsnews.com::
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KewlKat Donating Member (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 10:10 PM
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23. I guess he thinks it's best for the country to digests lies
from a hockey Mom wearing lipstick then from a washington insider.
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JimWis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 10:14 PM
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25. Notice the question about how many times Joe Biden has been
interviewed and Palin only two times. McCain didn't really know what the hell to say for an answer. "Oh, she will be doing some things later". McCain is done for.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 10:23 PM
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26. McCain never utters one sincere, original word. Every word out
of his mouth is calculated to help him win the Presidency so that he can feel superior to his father and grandfather. His ego trip has become our burden.
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