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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:18 AM
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Best Freerepublic Post ever
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 12:18 AM by scheming daemons
I don't think this is one of our trolls.

This guy actually gets it.



Dow Falls 449
Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:12:56 AM · 112 of 112
Freedom_Is_Not_Free to Earthdweller

If you think the systemic problems in the market due to the liquidity/insolvency crisis brought on by the collapse of the housing/credit bubble will all be over by the elections, then you haven’t been paying attention.

You might want to study up on why this is the worst financial crisis since the great depression. Try a google search on “liquidity crisis”, “credit crunch”, “housing bust”, “derivatives”, “mortgage backed securities”, and “collateralized debt obligation”, and “credit default swaps”.

Huge, powerful institutions that have weathered numerous economic recessions have collapsed. Bear Stearns, Lehman Bros. and Merrill-Lynch are gone.

If Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac collapsed without a bailout, we would be talking “depression by the elections, if not sooner”. The housing market would be absolutely dead and house prices would collapse. I don’t mean 5%. I mean 30%. Foreclosures repossessions would skyrocket and the entire banking industry would say, “closed for business.”

You need to study this crisis a bit more if you think it is a political manipulation. This crisis has us on the cusp of a depression if the boy geniuses in charge can’t stop the spiralling deflation.

This is not a bogeyman in the closet, this is the REAL Monster from the Id, and we don’t have Robby the Robot for protection. Like the Krell, we did this to ourselves (we as in “the greedy powerbrokers who destroyed the FIRE economy”), and now like the Monster from the Id, the force we unleashed is out of our control and hellbent on destroying us.


Entire thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2084643/posts
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:20 AM
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1. Wow. That is shocking. This one must get out of Mom's basement for sunlight.
:wow:
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:44 AM
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4. No, I don't think they're all morons, but I'm very surprised that
someone actually admitted it! Things like that are usually said ONLY in secrecy!
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:39 AM
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20. The fact that one Freeper recognizes the gravity of the situation doesn't mean much ...
... at least not until I hear them say something other than "more tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations are needed" and "we haven't deregulated enough."

The simple fact is, we are now nearing the ultimate end-point of the deregulation policies initiated under St. Ronnie, and I doubt we'll ever see a Freeper admit *that*.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 03:42 PM
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37. seconded.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:41 PM
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38. I was happy to hear soundbites, today, of Obama declaring trickle down economics as a root cause. nt
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:37 AM
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2. Why are we so amazed that one freeper has a clue?
Do we think they are all morans?
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TooRaLoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:39 AM
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3. Yes?
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:30 AM
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10. Is that a trick question?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:57 AM
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17. lol.
I think a lot of Repubs are greedy and selfish, not stupid.
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:50 PM
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25. agreed
However, freepers are like the halfwit bastard child of the repuglican party.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:57 PM
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35. YES
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holboz Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:44 AM
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5. I think most of the American people don't understand the sheer magnitude of this
My husband, who is working in London (I'm here with our kids trying to sell the house so we can join him), rang on Monday asking wtf was happening with Wall Street. He said there was a real panic in going on in London in response - the media was not holding back about the severity of what was unraveling. This is the tip of the iceberg...thousands will lose their jobs as the ramifications ripple through the world economies.

I wouldn't go as far as to claim that the situation is being sugar coated for us over here but it seems as if everything is being presented much more dire over there.

Then again I'm probably just a whiner and this is all just a 'mental recession'.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:49 AM
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8. No, they do not. Most of DU does not either. This is very serious.
yes, the stock market is in collapse but this has signs of dominos. The banks that are collapsing are still tied to other banks already on the ropes. The fed has showed they are powerless and the global economy is also getting blowback from the subprime mess. It is only a matter of time that the cracks start to burst there. A lot of foriegn banks were also involved heavily in our subprime nightmare.

If McClown were able to steal this election there would be no doubt that America would be thrust head-first into a depression. A global economic slowdown with only China and Middle East countries with the ability to bail us out.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:45 AM
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12. And if we do? Exactly what can we do about it? NOTHING.
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 05:46 AM by WinkyDink
Yeah, I know: Buy canned goods.
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:48 AM
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13. Gold. Buy gold.
Well, that seems to be the conventional wisdom, which isn't very reliable at the moment.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:56 AM
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16. First of all, gold is rising rapidly. Secondly, then what? Take it to the grocery?
Or sell it for WORTHLESS DOLLARS later?
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:17 AM
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18. I was thinking in terms of transferring investments to gold...
...but obviously that's only an option for those who have significant investments. I certainly don't have any. Fortunately, I don't have much debt, either.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:01 PM
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30. That's What John Kenneth Galbraith Used To Say About Gold
It really has no intrinsic value except maybe as a filling....

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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:38 AM
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11. Same in Germany, the media is using the 'R' word
and bracing people that this flu is global. Fasten your seatbelts.

Meanwhile the German taxpayers took a bath yesterday to the tune of 300mil euros after a bank in Berlin "mistakenly" wired money to Lehman. People are demanding to know WTF happened, details slowly emerging.

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,3652019,00.html
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:33 AM
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19. Wow. A "mistaken" wire transfer to Lehman.
What can I do to become a recipient of one of those "mistakes?" ;-)

Please keep us posted as more information becomes known!
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:52 AM
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6. OMG, I just looked up Krell and FIRE.
Never thought I would say this but "thank you Freeper". I learned a whole lot about our economy tonight.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:03 PM
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31. Yeah, at least the guy has good taste in bad science fiction.
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:24 AM
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7. This story reminds me of Atlantis Legend
I once read Atlantis mythology (or maybe it was real, who knows?) that Atlantis people were so advanced in everything then when they got greedy, it destroyed them all and the city, Atlantis, some 35,000 years ago.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:00 AM
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9. ONOES


:-P
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specialed Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:48 AM
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14. Very True...
Buckle up people its going to be a bumpy ride over the next two years.
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:50 AM
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15. Did they ban him yet?
I mean, one gets banned there for making sense! He used metaphors, too, so they will think he's a "smarty-pants liberal"!

Who did they think was manipulating the markets? Obama?
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:44 AM
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21. Can't be. Where are the spelling and grammatical mistakes?
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:46 AM
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22. He is obviously a troll.
:rofl:
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:53 AM
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23. That post was probably followed by a bunch of "Bush's fault" mockery by those lemmings
they don't even get it.

It IS Bush's fault. The economy is in shambles be that asshole made some REALLY BAD decisions. He was a frickin' C student at best.. why do the repukes support people who are clearly not qualified to be president? Why do they just close their eyes and cheer loudly for whomever has an R next to their name???

Do they really love their party that much that they would sacrifice their country just to win an election??!! An election isn't a game of football. It's REAL LIFE!!!

It's shocking to me..
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:08 AM
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24. Hear it all the time.
Oh, the economy is just fine. The media are just dramatizing things to get Obama elected. Everything will be fine after the election. So many keep repeating that so they're getting from the same source, whatever that may be.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:54 PM
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26. That's me.
Oops, I've said too much.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:57 PM
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27. Shut up! It's Clinton's fault! n/t
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:57 PM
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28. I'm Not A Classically Trained Economist
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 12:58 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
But there is more agreement among classically trained economists than disagreement...There are certain "laws" of any social behavior including economics...
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:58 PM
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29. That is the sound of a man who has been kicked in a very sensitive place...
...his portfolio.

I do wonder if some of these people will start to reconsider what is more costly to them; the extra taxes they will get with Democrats or the complete financial meltdown they will get due to Republican Wall Street free-for-alls.
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:19 PM
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32. Judah Loew and his golem. n/t
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:15 PM
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33. I can't find this post there anymore. - oops, nevermind
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 02:20 PM by tbyg52
I was hoping to hit "stop" before I made a fool of myself here - I'm used to DU, where you see everything on one page....
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AldebTX Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:34 PM
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34. Is It Ok To Recommend a Post
Thats from a Freeper?
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 03:01 PM
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36. No way is that a freeper. For one thing, what freeper quotes Forbidden Planet?
Complex sentences, excellent grammatical structure, multi-syllabic words spelled correctly, knowledge of 20th century history. That's not a freeper. That's an old-fashioned Republican who went into FR to slap some morans around.

Too late, Barry Goldwater Republicans. You made a pact with the devil and expected him to behave?
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