Palin saying she's seen photos of dinosaurs & humans co-existing DOESN'T make her a kook!!!!

[Warren DeMontague]

I mean, I've seen 'em, too.

[redwitch]

1. LOL

Barney!

[melody]

2. I think we need to sit Little Sarah down and tell her the sad truth about Fred, Wilma and Pebbles

:)

[shadowknows69]

8. Yeah, they were fucking eaten by Dino

You just can't make a dinosaur a pet.

[PsN2Wind]

3. A friend of mine that collects cameras

would pay huge bucks for the camera that was used.

[d_b]

4. Our God is an awesome God

http://sweetraptorjesus2.ytmnd.com/

[begin_within]

5. And of course:

[poverlay]

6. My wife and I recently went to Kauai where we did a flyover of where this shot was made. You can

really tell that it's that field. The pilot says he has many children who are convinced it was real and who want to know where the dinosaurs are. He didn't mention a whiny girl who kept saying she was an expert 'cause she could see it from the window... Must've been on a the christian evolution flight where they have dinosaurs painted on the inside of the window...

[SteveM]

7. Alley Oop -- oop -- oop-oop. Alley Oop -- oop -- oop-oop.......(nt)

[Beregond2]

9. Me too.

One of the humans was Raquel Welch.

[Warren DeMontague]

10. Ah, yes.

Further scientific study is needed, there.

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

11. The Flintstones was NOT a documentary

But the retarded creationists insist that it was. :crazy: :wtf:

[ismnotwasm]

12. Dumbshit then

She's such an asshole.

[IndianaGreen]

13. K&R

:rofl:

The Creationist Museum outside Cincinnati has a dinosaur exhibit in which Adam and Eve lived among them.

[RagAss]

16. dupe

[RagAss]

17. I spent a year one day in Cincinnati...

[IndianaGreen]

18. They are still out of power in Cincy due to Ike

Marge Schott would support McCain/Palin were she still alive.

[liam_laddie]

21. A Marge Schott bio-film was planned...

but they couldn't sign the lead...Ernest Borgnine. :rofl:

[IndianaGreen]

22. I loved her dog Schottzie

and though I'm a Yankee fan, I was thrilled when the Reds won the World Series.

BTW, Pete Rose should be in the Hall of Fame.

[IDemo]

14. When the Raptor comes, you'll be sorry n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

24. Ooooooo.

That's bad.

[flvegan]

15. Harnessing the power of the T-Rex is how we won the Revolutionary War!

[codjh9]

19. Hah! I stand corrected!

[vanderBeth]

20. Of course, Jesus horses.

http://bp2.blogger.com/_lMhuoqh6UTs/RpO7BqwXRDI/AAAAAAAAAKE/rTnwUInqUw4/s400/Jesus+Horse.jpg

[mrreowwr_kittty]

23. I just love that Anglo non-Semitic looking Jesus with the dinosaur in the second photo

Please tell me it's satire!

[timeoutofjoint]

25. That post was Heresay.

[Warren DeMontague]

27. Hearsay? Or heresy?

Here?

[FVZA_Colonel]

26. Raptor Jesus Approves.

[Liberal Dose]

30. There is nothing in the bible saying that Jesus is not a raptor. nt

[samuraiguppy]

28. no it makes her a kook AND an idiot nt

[Warren DeMontague]

29. I bet these guys know what the Bush Doctrine is.

[gordianot]

31. She is most likely referring to so called human tracks and dinosaur tracks, debunked.

That human tracks and dinosaur tracks co-exist is out of favor even with creationists except for the real radicals. This is right up there with Big Foot tracks.


see link:
http://www.paleo.cc/paluxy/paluxy.htm

For many years claims were made by strict creationists that human footprints or "giant man tracks" occur alongside fossilized dinosaur tracks in the limestone beds of the Paluxy River, near Glen Rose Texas. If true, such a finding would dramatically contradict the conventional geologic timetable, which holds that humans did not appear on earth until over 60 million years after the dinosaurs became extinct. However, the "man track" claims have not stood up to close scientific scrutiny, and in recent years have been abandoned even by most creationists. The supposed human tracks have involved a variety of phenomena, including forms of elongate, metatarsal dinosaur tracks, erosional features, indistinct markings of uncertain origin, and a smaller number of doctored and carved specimens (most of the latter occurring on loose blocks of rock). A few individuals continue to promote the Paluxy "man tracks" or alleged human tracks in pre-Tertiary rocks from other localities, but such claims are not considered credible by either mainstream scientists or major creationist groups.

[Warren DeMontague]

32. You know it's bad when "major creationist groups" don't find your shit credible.

"Sorry, sir, but all of us legitimate unicorn researchers have ceased study of leprechauns and wee folk"

[gordianot]

33. Even if she were able to mandate so called "Creation Science" it would not support her.

[joefree1]

34. Where's the link to her statements on this

I've got a few fundie relatives I need to send this to.

[Warren DeMontague]

35. *

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7080437

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/michaeltomasky/2008/sep/15/sarahpalin.uselections20083

[jakem]

36. it is not the dinosaurs i worry about...

it is the sleestacks!

[gordianot]

37. If Sleestacks did evolve I am sure they quickly became extinct.

[jakem]

38. I am not so sure...

[gordianot]

39. That is a picture of a "Sleeze Stack".

:toast:

[rebel with a cause]

40. I am going a whole different route here.

I am not going to make fun of anyone who is religious and believes in the creation of earth by God. I have family that believes this and I have to respect them in somethings. I for one am not sure how the world came to be, I was not there to witness it. So whether a person believes in the creation of earth by God or by the big bang theory really does not matter to me. Whether man lived with the dinosaurs or whether their existence was years apart does not matter to me.

What does matter to me is having someone put in control of this country that would push their beliefs on the rest of us. What matters to me is having someone put in control of this country that would want to determine what we could read, watch and think. What matters to me is that a person with such limited intelligence, curiosity, imagination, and empathy for others could ever be put in a position where they would have power over not only the U.S. but the rest of the world by way of our military power. The idea that a person with such a limited thought process could be elected once again after eight years of bush, makes me think that death is not such a bad thing after all. May whatever there is out there (God/the powers that be/Mother Earth/collective brain waves/anything that might be stronger than us mere human beings are on our own) have mercy on us and not let this happen again.

[Warren DeMontague]

41. Sorry, all "theories" about things are NOT created equal. Some are certainly open to ridicule.

Someone wants to say that the moon is a magic custard pie made by Keebler Elves, that's certainly their perogative. But I'm a little tired of the old "we must ALWAYS RESPECT peoples' deeply held religious beliefs" saw, frankly.. the truth of the matter is, if someone wants to LITERALLY claim that the Earth is 6,000 years old, they are an idiot. No, I wasn't there. I've never been to the moon, either. But I'm pretty fucking sure it's not made of custard pie put there by Keebler Elves.

I respect their right to believe whatever kind of whacked out shit they want. But that doesn't mean they get a free pass from ridicule, particularly when they try to pass it off as scientific capital-T Truth.

Also, it's worth noting that there is a big difference between saying "I believe God created the Universe", and saying "I believe God created the Earth 6,000 years ago, everything in the Bible is literally true, dinosaurs and humans co-existed, and the entire mass of physical, scientific evidence to the contrary is wrong.".. dig?

I respect critical thinking, that's what I respect. And there is a sad dearth of it in these crazy right-wing fundy circles.

And, as you've alluded to, not only are we talking about someone who potentially could be holding the most important job on the planet, we're also dealing with a party- the GOP- that has MADE their religious peculiarities everyone else's problem. I don't give a shit if people want their kids to learn about Noah's ark or creationism in Sunday School, but it sure as fuckitty-fuck doesn't belong in public school science class.

[Blarch]

42. Amen. ....I mean 'Dynomite'

[rebel with a cause]

44. I think you missed the point I was trying to make.

and it may be similar to what you are saying but I feel somewhat different about it. I don't believe how my family believes, but I don't make fun of them because I don't talk to most of them, and with the ones I do I try to keep things as civil as possible. Also, if you make fun of someones beliefs, then the argument becomes centered on what the belief is and I basically don't care what they believe in or even what you believe in. Everyone has the freedom to believe what you will as long as it does not hurt some one else. If they or you want to be an idiot that is your choice, my believing or not believing what someone else believes means nothing to me.

What matter to me is that someone who holds these different views wants them to be forced on me and others, and I don't want their or your personal beliefs forced on others who might not agree with them. I do not want to be told that I must believe things that I find to be idiotic, and I don't want to be told that my choices/the choices of others are being made for us. I don't want someone in power who would require everyone to goose step into their way of life. And yes it is not only pain that wants this, but most of the republican party, but she is the radical one who is in the position to be this decider. And just like bush she would want to be the decider. cain would be dangerous because of his stance on war and his lack of cohesiveness, but pain would be the one to take us back to the fifties, the way the old republican white men want us to be.

I am a critical thinker, that is why I don't buy what the religious nut cases say, or everything that you say. I am critical of it all but I am not in the frame of mind to sit and argue it today. It is bad enough that I just told my sister that her friend is an idiot because she thinks cain and pain are what this country needs, and is enthused about voting for them. "palin is the real thing" is what this friend has said, although she has always voted Democrat before, but now is voting republican because of the 'pro-choice' thing. What a bunch of bull, I say this friend is a racist because Barack is no more pro-choice than Gore or Kerry were. But she is my sister's friend and that makes her 'okay' to her. :eyes: Anyway, I have used my quota of calling someone an idiot today. Thank you.

[Warren DeMontague]

45. I agree that people can believe whatever they want. And in a different, abstract universe

where the "Veggietales" crowd wasn't generally the same folks trying to, say, put prayer in public schools or get the pill outlawed, then perhaps I would be more amenable to the "aw, just leave 'em alone" argument. Really, I don't have all the answers- I don't engage in blanket belittlements of people of faith, even though I'm not one of them...

but just because I don't have ALL the answers doesn't mean I think it's anything approaching rational to chuck 500 years of scientific method and evidence out the window.

Again, I do think anyone seriously claiming that dinosaurs and humans co-existed 4,000 years ago shouldn't be put in charge of a deli slicer, much less a modern industrial nation.

[rebel with a cause]

46. I agree with you.

I say leave them alone, but don't let them force their beliefs on everyone else and don't give them power to rule others. If they want to go out in the desert and practice their religion in isolation I would welcome their move. I have spoke out against these religious nuts probably longer than some people have been alive. The problem is that the more moderate religious people take this personal also. So I would rather, as you said, focus on "anyone seriously claiming that dinosaurs and humans co-existed 4,000 years ago shouldn't be put in charge of a deli slicer, much less a modern industrial nation." And I would also focus that given the choice of chucking 500 years of scientific method and evidence out the window, that it is not a choice we are ready to accept. My family are more moderate except some of them are fanatic on the pro-choice issue. It is not an issue that I take lightly and I guess I am fanatic in my own right because I believe in women having a choice about her own body, and the government should not have a say in my personal life.

From my last post.."I do not want to be told that I must believe things that I find to be idiotic, and I don't want to be told that my choices/the choices of others are being made for us. I don't want someone in power who would require everyone to goose step into their way of life. And yes it is not only pain (palin) that wants this, but most of the republican party, but she is the radical one who is in the position to be this decider. And just like bush she would want to be the decider. cain would be dangerous because of his stance on war and his lack of cohesiveness, but pain would be the one to take us back to the fifties, the way the old republican white men want us to be."

My argument with my sister before this has been the loss of women's rights and the fact that I do not want to go back to being a man's property. She agrees with this, because neither does she. But then she does not like how the young women of today behave, and she has had some bad experiences with her son's girlfriends/wives. So I know that if I ridicule religion, I will lose the argument and on this board turn some people off. But if the rest of you do it, that is not going to outrage me. I was just talking about taking a different way to the problem that presents itself with pain's outragious beliefs and her wanting to force them on others. And no I do not want them taught in school. Don't get me started on what is taught in school which I disagree with. Like American history.

[Riddler]

43. It makes perfect sense if the dinosaur she's talking about is McLame