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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:15 PM
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Busted!: Gallup, CBS, USA.Today, etc. Tinkers With Party ID Again
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:17 PM
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1. Yes...let's scream this from the rooftops before our citizenry takes to commiting suicide en masse.
THEY ARE FUCKING LYING AGAIN!!!!

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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:17 PM
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2. Well Well Well...
So CBS and Gallup include an equal number of Repugs and Dems, huh. And they didn't weight the results? FAIL. Dems have a 10 point lead (at least) in PiD.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:18 PM
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3. Well I guess Obama's win on Nov 4 can be a surprise
That's fine with me; that's the poll that matters.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:12 AM
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31. Or the the steal more believable n/t
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:21 PM
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4. I suspected as much, I noticed gallup
changing their september sample to add more republicans as well...I didnt have access to those cross tabs.

Kudos to the poster!
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:21 PM
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5. That's pretty much what I thought was going on.
The pollsters and media have a vested interest in the horse race crap.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:59 PM
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18. Sure brought a lot of
handwringers outta the woodwork on Sunday..Jeeze.
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:34 PM
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6. Best news I've read in days! n/t
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:46 PM
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7. A big kick-- for an extremely informative article
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:00 PM
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8. Thank you.
Distribution has begun.

Printing copies of both tomorrow.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:08 PM
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9. No surprise
I stated in posts earlier today that I didn't believe the polls. The media needs a story. If Obama takes the lead and keeps it the whole way, then there's not much suspense for the media to talk about endlessly.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:10 AM
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30. .
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pristinebullet Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:11 PM
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10. The GOP bounce is temporary and short
convention bounces are temporary. They dissipate in a matter of days or a couple of weeks. It's history, not speculation.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:56 PM
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27. Theres not even a GOP Bounce
Reading the article, its not a convention bounce that changed the polls. It was a change in polling. Poll 10% more Republicans, and of course you are going to get a higher number for McCain.
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KathieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:16 PM
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11. I knew it
This is great news for those who were worried! :thumbsup:
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:17 PM
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12. They finally admitted it!
K&R

:kick:
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:25 PM
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13. Kickin ...
and rec'in
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President_Obama Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:26 PM
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14. they're fluffing McCain to make people think he has a chance
could someone recalculate the results using July's Party ID numbers?
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:29 PM
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15. Yoo Hoo! Paging The Gallup APOLOGISTS/Defenders On This Board
Edited on Tue Sep-09-08 08:32 PM by Beetwasher
Come out come out wherever you are!

Remember this post of mine? Care to comment now?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6980476
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:01 PM
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20. Yes, indeedy..and I remember my reply.
zidzi (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-07-08 10:35 PM
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4. Corporate media will do anything to manipulate
the voters' perceptions..ANYTHING
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bevoette Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:54 PM
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16. bump!
B-)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:58 PM
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17. And, Obama said this today.. from another thread of yours, Pro..
"I just think that the notion that people are swinging back and forth in the span of a few weeks, or a few days, this wildly, generally isn't borne out," Obama told reporters here."


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7004435
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:05 PM
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22. Thank you SO much!!
Recommended!
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:00 PM
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19. So calm down everyone
Edited on Tue Sep-09-08 09:01 PM by Arrowhead2k1
the moment of truth will be on Nov. 4th and ONLY Nov. 4th.

Unless we end up going to the supreme court again. Ugh...
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Demi_Babe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:02 PM
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21. thank you thank you thank you
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:13 PM
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23. I believe this is true, BUT it does give them cover for a STOLEN election

It would be much harder, if the polls showed big leads for Obama, and then, McCain won.

With the election fraud factor, and we all know at this point it is real and dangerous, we need to speak out loudly on this issue.
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DCofVA Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:29 PM
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24. I was never worried, I knew the polls were screwed up
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:47 PM
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25. Turd Blossom didn't waste any time
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:54 PM
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26. K and Fuckin R
that irritates me.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:21 PM
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28. kick
:kick:
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:34 PM
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29. there are several things we need to be worried about with this
1) that people will start to believe that Barack doesn't stand a chance and have them not show up to vote. McCain voters will think he stands a chance and turn out more than the would have.



2) that when they try to cook the elections in swing states they can point to the polls to justify the fix numbers.

We need to get this info to KO, Rachel, Tweety NYT, WSJ and anyone else we can think of....this has to be made WIDELY public.

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