Sarah Palin is not a patriot

[TomClash]

If Barack Obama or Dennis Kucinich or Bernie Sanders or any other Democrat serving the people of the United States or belonged to a secessionist or communist political party, would they be eligible to hold federal office? No, Republicans, conservatives, the MSM and the Freepers would be calling for their heads.

How can someone support an "Alaska First" political party but seek to be the Vice President of the United States? How can the Electoral College delegates, who represent 49 other states, elect someone who supports a party that wants to succeed from the Union? How can you seek to disunify the Untied States and still lead it?

We fought a war with secessionists almost a century and a half ago and 620,000 people were killed. Over 23,000 were killed at Antietam alone. Thousands have died and are dying in the sands and soil of Iraq and Afghanistan in service to this country.

I have no problem with Ms.Palin supporting AIP - it is her democratic right. If it was a youthful fancy, it would be understandable and forgivable. But she spoke at the AIP convention a few months ago. It is hard to see how she squares her support for the AIP with the desire to hold office in the very country AIP wants to leave.

This is not a question of seeking to change policy, like the Vietnam or Iraq protesters did. It is a question of abdication in its entirety.

Her position is unpatriotic and the Republican Party should not nominate her for Vice President of the United States.

[pokercat999]

1. That a large portion of Americans agree with AIP is of no

consequence? I agree if she wants to secede from the union she should not be running for VP. The trouble is I think a very large percentage of Americans disagree with us on that subject. Many support the secession of individual states from the union, the question becomes "Why can't they?" What organization have you ever joined that you cannot withdraw from? Every citizen can quit the US and give up their citizenship, if all the citizens in a state should decide to do so how could the state remain in the United States? Killing 620,000 people 150 years ago was wrong then and would be wrong today. Forcing states to remain a part of a government that they no longer wanted to be affiliated with was wrong then and is wrong now.

If the northern states wanted to end slavery they should have let the south go and then invaded what would have been another country to end slavery. My guess is the real answer then as it is today "follow the power/money".

[mwb970]

2. Are you sure that "many Americans" want various states to secede from the union?

I haven't heard that presented as a mainstream view before.

[nxylas]

3. Do you live in the South?

I'm in South Carolina and Confederate flags are ten a penny here - even on the State House lawn.

[pokercat999]

5. Actually I was born and raised in PA by liberal working class

parents. Dad ran a gas station, mom worked in the housekeeping department of the local hospital. I lived in Florida fifteen years and currently reside in VA, where I have lived for about eighteen years. I am not a fan of the confederacy or it's politics. I think slavery was worse than murder and the north had every right and moral obligation to stop slavery; up to and including the invasion, if necessary. I also think the United States had no right to stop the south's withdrawal from the union. I actually think states belong to the Union at the will of their citizens not by the force of other states. If the other states have the right to force participation in the Union then why bother with states at all. Isn't it just redundant and waste full government?

[mwb970]

8. I forgot about them.

Didn't SC actually secede once?

[nxylas]

10. First state in the Union to secede in the "recent unpleasantness"

A fact of which South Carolinians are inordinately proud.

[mwb970]

12. I will never understand the South.

I was going to say it sounds like another country, but it sounds more like another planet to me. Are the laws of physics the same there?

I live in Columbus, Ohio, by the way. I've never been to the South.

[nxylas]

13. I'm probably not the guy to explain it to you

I've only been here five years, an immigrant from England married to a transplant from the Pittsburgh area. So there's some, shall we say, cultural dislocation my end, too.

[TomClash]

4. Wow

My point was simply that you cannot run a country you want to abandon. She's disqualified on that basis alone.

We're not talking about joining and leaving the Boy Scouts.

I think you grossly overstate the number of people who support succession.

[pokercat999]

6. Maybe so............but

Joe Biden's plan to partition Iraq could be applied to the good old USA. Think about it. How nice would it be to have all the rethugs in one portion of the country with their beliefs in place and in law and the progressives in another with all our liberal ideas at work? Where would you want to live?

Instead of saying it's not possible try thinking about how it could be done, peacefully.

[TomClash]

7. No thanks - not interested

I like the United States - all of them.

[pokercat999]

16. I see....kinda conservative...... no not that kind...lol....nt

[RichGirl]

9. Here's a post from drudge:

So what do we know so far about Sarah Palin?


She joined a party with the moto "Alaska First".
The party founder Joe Vogler was buried in Canada because he refused to be buried on American soil. And he is quoted as saying:
"I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."
That's the party she willingly joined.


And when Palin was asked about being the VP pick earlier in the year, her answer was:
We wanna make sure that that VP slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans
www.youtube.com



Especially for Alaskans? It's that last quote that interests me the most. Exactly what did she mean by that? Alaska first, America second? I think it's a serious question where Sarah Palin's loyalties lie.

[TomClash]

11. I think that is spot on

How can she want to run the country she wants to secede from?

[RichGirl]

14. And to think of...

...of all the crap Michelle O got for not being proud enough!!

[TomClash]

15. No kidding! nt