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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:08 PM
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Pentagon spy responsible for forged uranium document
per Larry Johnson, former CIA on Countdown right now.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:09 PM
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1. He says this is BIG
the scandal extends to the National Security Council as well.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:12 PM
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Also says the investigation has been going on for months.
But I am not optimistic that Ass-hole-croft's FBI is going to do anything substantive on this before Nov. 3.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:11 PM
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2. The Niger- Joe Wilson outing Valerie Plame and that investigation
led to this investigation Uranium document?
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:15 PM
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6. Larry Johnson said his sources told him that the Pentagon spy
who was providing top secret info to AIPAC was directly involved in the creation of the forged document that Bush used as "proof" that Saddam was trying to obtain uranium from Niger.

Yes, this is the very same document that precipitated Joe Wilson's visit to Niger, and the subsequent outing of his wife, Valerie Plame as an undercover CIA agent.
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:12 PM
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3. Holy Shit!!!! I just heard it. Wow, could be forger of bogus Niger Memo!
Wow, Obviously the leak is political but WTF... Remember Sandy Burger 5 days before The Dem's Convention.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:12 PM
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4. Nice of them to release it, as usual, late on Friday afternoon.
Can they keep this one under wraps?

Not if I can help it.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:15 PM
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5. No way did the Republicans release this before the convention.
Also, it's POSSIBLY linked to the Plame case and the forgeries.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:17 PM
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7. You're right
Bush would not want this story to get out on any day of the week
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 09:19 PM
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23. This isn't going anywhere
Edited on Fri Aug-27-04 09:19 PM by ibegurpard
count on it.
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:18 PM
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8. This has the O.S.P. Written all over it. It would make sense why
no politicians even mentioned the Office of Special Plans during Senate Intel Report... it was already under investigation. Now leaked.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:19 PM
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9. did he really say that?
I thought I heard him say there were still unanswered questions. Did he make that definitive statement?
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:21 PM
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12. I thought I heard him say that his sources told him this is the case
No official confirmation. Anyone else interpret it differently? Instant transcripts would be great.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:23 PM
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13. Pat Buchanan says Larry Johnson has the connections to know
what is going on.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:23 PM
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14. Dupe
Edited on Fri Aug-27-04 07:24 PM by PA Democrat
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:20 PM
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10. Josh Marshall has been working on the story of..
the forged documents. I can't wait to read what he has to say about it.
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:21 PM
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11. the CIA is fighting back!
Bush made the CIA look like fools making them the scapegoat for bad intel for the war and he also outed one of their own. We've been waiting and wondering when they were going to fight back.

This is it.

This is no coincidence that this is happening two days before the RNC.

The investigation has been happening for months and they wait until the RNC to go public.

It's payback time.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:34 PM
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15. Just watch...It'll be "Clinton's CIA" that got infiltrated.
"Buxh has been doing his best to clean it up".

Perhaps I should't be so cynical, but NOTHING sticks to this admin.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:38 PM
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16. I don't think it matters whose CIA;
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/08/27/eveningnews/main639143.shtml

They may have been trying to influence Iraq war and Iran policy.

That's pretty deep in the system.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:43 PM
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17. Help me understand this....
The forged documents originated from the Pentagon and not the CIA. They're saying that they were created by a high level employee who was spying for Israel.

I wonder if they're making that person out to be a spy to cover the fact that the documents were actually created by the Pentagon on purpose to give us a reason to go to war?

I'm just trying to make sure I have the news report accurate. And then I'm speculating because the administration isn't to be trusted. How convenient that a spy created docs that gave the administration an imminent reason for us to invade Iraq - when PNAC wanted war with Iraq for a decade or more.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 08:13 PM
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18. I am anxious to read the transcript of the Larry Johnson interview
on MSNBC. Johnson thought that this was damaging to the Bush administration. I want to read his exact words to make sure I am not jumping to false conclusions.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 08:49 PM
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21. The way I read it is that Israel was attempting to influence
policy toward Iran. From CBS, who broke the story:

CBS sources say that last year the suspected spy, described as a trusted analyst at the Pentagon, turned over a presidential directive on U.S. policy toward Iran while it was, "in the draft phase when U.S. policy-makers were still debating the policy."

This put the Israelis, according to one source, "inside the decision-making loop" so they could "try to influence the outcome."

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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 09:16 PM
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22. Documents came from Israel...
That is what is being said. Head to GD and the big WillPitt thread -- in it you will find a link to a Nation article talking about it.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 08:19 PM
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19. Johnson was right about Libby
he named Scooter as a likely leaker right from the start.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 08:41 PM
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20. Does this have anything to do with Bush's proposal to expanded role for
the new CIA chief ?? Hmmm-mmm
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