I think Palin is scary. Don't underestimate her.

[Peregrine Took]

I hear she is bright, obviously ambitious and she is like Blessed Mother to fundie Catholics and the other fundies worship her, too, and she is pro gun and drilling.

She will really mobilize them to get out the vote for her.

And that so called scandal when she got the state trooper ex-brother in law fired can be explained away as he was an abusive husband to her sister and actually tasered their kids. Most folks would agree with his being fired.

Also she just had a Down's syndrome baby and has a ton of other kids. Biden couldn't really go on the attack with her as he would appear to me a bully.

[LynneSin]

1. Mobilize whom - the Duggar family? I think only half their kids can vote

And Joe is the true statesman that won't back down from a challenge

[redqueen]

5. People that think she's qualified to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.

Can't be a very large group.

[slackmaster]

21. Not sure I agree with you on that, redqueen

Remember this guy?



I believe Sarah Palin is a whole lot more qualified than J. Danforth Quayle ever was.

[redqueen]

24. Was our country facing the same threats? Hardly.

Apples and oranges.

[slackmaster]

32. Actually it was, but people weren't aware of it

People who have been paying attention have known about our energy problem since the early 1970s.

[redqueen]

37. Uh... housing crisis? Credit crunch? Global warming becoming critical? China / Russia?

You gotta be fuckin shittin me...

[slackmaster]

40. I worked in the finanacial services industry at the time

The Savings and Loan crisis was already apparent to people in the business at the time of the 1988 election. The Soviet Union was in a death spiral, and there was great concern about the disposition of its nuclear weapons.

Nobody was talking about global warming at the time, but do you honestly both grasp the enormity of the situation and believe that many people think our selection of a US President is going to have any impact on it?

I know that "It's the economy, stupd" didn't come into play until the 1992 election, but the writing was already on the wall in 1988.

[redqueen]

42. I see you're not willing to concede the point...

so we'll just have to agree to disagree. :)

[Drunken Irishman]

6. The problem with the Republicans is they have not had anyone get over excited for.

This gives them something to get excited for. Discount it all you want, it's exciting for them and that could close the enthusiasm gap.

[BrklynLiberal]

7. hahahahahahahahaha

[OmahaBlueDog]

9. She'll mobilize every fundie megachurch in America

Seriously, the peorple who admire the Duggars will eat this lady up with a spoon.

[Peregrine Took]

15. Moblilize the fundies to work for her. Who are the Duggar's?

[LynneSin]

23. 18 and growing

[Maven]

2. Biden might not attack her so openly...

but Hillary could.

[LynneSin]

27. When it comes to debating - Biden is a skilled surgeon with the scapel

He'll know how to take her out with out looking like a bully

[BrklynLiberal]

3. Sound slike a terrific mother. Does she spend ANY time with the kids???????

[krabigirl]

45. Seriously.

[Franks Wild Years]

4. The Biden point is bullshit

If she cannot take being bullied, she's a pathetic, shameful, despicable, disgusting person for allowing herself to be on the ticket and a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

[MaryEllen9399]

18. amen

if she wants to play with the big boys, she needs to put her big girl panties on.

[leftynyc]

20. Biden wont have to savage her

Hillary will rip the hide off her.

[JohnnyBoots]

8. I agree she could present a catch 22 for Joe in the VP debate. I think that

Joe is smart and charismatic enough to kill her with kindness if he debated her to get his points across. He could change his game if he had to.

[lamp_shade]

29. You're right. McCain is the one he needs to attack.

[BlooInBloo]

10. Joe will rickroll her.

[redqueen]

11. Nobody has to "attack" her... simply point out how vastly unqualified she is.

This country is facing grave challenges... at home and abroad... he can make it crystal clear how unqualified she is.

Imagine the contrast.

Has she had anyting at all to do with foreign affairs? Ever?

[JI7]

12. not afraid of her at all

McCain is too old to pick someone like her. he needed to go with someone that people would feel comfortable with as President if something were to happen to him where he could no longer serve. someone like Biden.

people still have questions about Obama's experience but compared to Palin they most likely feel comfortable with him as President. they know he is not like Quayle. and he has been campaigning for over a year.

Palin will only have 2 months. it just wont happen. and she will be going up against BIDEN . justnot going to happen. people who might otherwise have supported Mccain might not do so at the thought that if he were to die she would become president.

[grantcart]

13. abandoning a newly born Down's syndrome baby?? that's going to work well

with what demographic?

I suppose that people who love Dick Cheney will find it appealing.

[Virginia Dare]

14. Those critters on her shoulders might attack!

I agree she's scary...:scared:

[yardwork]

16. I don't think so. Fundies don't believe in female leaders.

Fundy churches don't allow women to hold leadership positions. They believe that women should be subordinate to men in all ways. Most fundies don't allow their wives to work outside the home. No matter what they say, they are going to have a real problem voting for a female VP.

[redqueen]

Yup.

[slackmaster]

28. The Fundies I know will have no problem picking a female VP over a pro-choice Democratic ticket

No problem at all.

[yardwork]

33. But they were going to vote Republican anyway. And some of the fundies won't vote for a woman.

All this does is erode McCain's base. He already has the fundy vote. Picking a woman would lose him some fundy votes. They'd just stay home.

It isn't Palin.

[redqueen]

38. Yeah, but... BE SCAAAAARED!

:eyes:

[slackmaster]

39. I'm not convinced that it is Palin yet either

FWIW, which isn't much.

[GrizzlyMan]

35. The fundies I know believe women should be seen and not heard

[slackmaster]

43. Maybe they'll just stay home

But do you think they'd go for a Morman VP either?

[GrizzlyMan]

48. Never said they'd go for a Mormon

But they didn't pick a Mormon, they picked a nobody from Alaska who happens to be a female. Probably only slightly more appealing in the fundie mind.

[yardwork]

50. No, he had the same problem with Romney.

I think that this is a really bad choice for McCain, which is good for us unless they steal it.

The thought of this woman as president is terrifying to me.

[bdamomma]

46. I hope they just stay home.

[GrizzlyMan]

17. This pick is a joke

All across America, people will be uttering the phrase "who?" today. McCain is 72, does anyone honestly think this woman is capable of being president in the (fairly) likely event that he dies or is incpacitated during his first term?

You're also forgetting the legions of fundies who believe women should be seen and NOT HEARD.

Does it limit how nasty Joe can be? Probably. But Joe is the kind of guy fully capable of making her look like the nobody she is without being nasty.

This is a GREAT day for Obama. A great day.

[melody]

19. Oh NO! I'm so SCARED!

[Ichingcarpenter]

34. Me too!!!!

[Ashy Larry]

22. The number one job of VP

is to be able to step in and serve as president should the need arise. Given McCain's age and health issues, there is a good chance that need will arise. There is no way they will be able to argue that Palin is ready to be president. She has ZERO foreign policy experience. She has a couple of years being governor of a state with only about 680,000 people. Thats it.

[terrya]

25. Maybe I'm being naive, but I think the deal was sealed last night.

I don't think it makes a damn bit of difference who McAsshole chooses.

[cap]

26. a 2 prong attack on her will take her out

Biden on the Catholic and experience side -- most Catholics aren't fundies. her lack of experience nullifies mccain's arguments for experience. Hillary will devastate her on women's issues. Hillary will eat moose meat and it won't be pretty for Palin. I can hear Hillary saying, "Come to Mamma, babycakes".

[President Decider]

30. Honestly, if Palin scares you .... you need to hop in the oven, turn it on, and grow a pair.

This is a meek and desperate pick if it's true ....

You think people will see her as someone to lead this entire country if McCain decides to kill over anytime soon?

I think not ....

[redqueen]

47. Oh please... like there's any reason to think McCain might keel over?

[ampad]

31. Biden will take her down

during a debate. Not to mention, McCain will get knocked down on the experience crap. We have been hearing for months now that experience matters and that flip flop meme will come back to haunt McCain. I don't think Biden would have one single problem getting at her during a debate. They may try this "she is a womam" crap but I don't think people are falling for that mess. The economic situation in this country is serious. McCain picking a former beauty queen, junior, politician when he is so old is not going to set well with quite a few people. Not to mention the huge block of repigs who are just down right sexist including women repigs. I will not underestimate her by any means but I will not undestimate the knuckle draggers that call the repig party home. That Bob Barr character may be popular this year.

[JustAnotherGen]

36. I disagree on Biden

He most certainly could go after her. . . Focus on the fundamentals.

Lack of foreign policy experience and ask her if she would be willing to work for 70% less than any other VP so she can stand in solidarity with her 'sisters'.

[Chloroplast]

41. I just wonder how the Party of Family Values could justify Palin as VP.

She has a new born with a disability in addition to other minor children; school's starting soon (if it hasn't already) and she'd have to campaign across the country. I'm sorry but McCain is beyond desperate if he chooses her.

[krabigirl]

44. Yeah, fundie women scare me. But not in the way you think. They make me run away screaming.

Let them have the fundie Cathlolics. Fuck 'em.

And BTW, having a Down's baby is no achievement. People do this every day, many with no insurance. Big deal if this rich bitch can do it, and then send the baby off to a nanny 3 days after birth. Blech.

[bdamomma]

49. so what will this be turn out to be, a campaign

without discussing the issues that affect all of us, and the filthy repigs just spewing BS again as always, talk about this womna's family values, and religious beliefs and shit like that.