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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 09:43 AM
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Predictions for tonight....

Pre-speech:

All of the cable news channels will bombard us with "what will she say?" stories. Wolf Blitzer will ask questions about whether Hillary's support of Obama will be "genuine". Fox News will indicate that she'll just be "going through the motions".


The speech:

Hillary will give a rousing speech, blowing the roof off the place. She will mix enthusiastic support for Obama with condemnations of John McCain. She will have the crowd eating out of her hand. It will be an awesome sight to see.

We will all be aglow and pumped after the speech..

...for about 5 minutes, when we see this....

Post-speech:

At least three Republican panelists on the cable networks will say things like "this speech indicates that the Democrats made the wrong choice. What you saw up there was the person who should have been their nominee. I think Democrats tonight are feeling buyer's remorse and wish they would've voted for her." Wolf Blitzer will turn to James Carville and say, "what about it, James? Did the Democrats make a mistake in not nominated Hillary Clinton?" And James Carville, always stirring shit, will play along.



In addition... there will be 15 threads on GD: P saying "We should've nominated her."



Bank on it.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 09:46 AM
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1. As much as I'd like to disagree with you...
I can't. The RW talking heads that make up what passes for media these days will likely prove you 100% correct.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 09:47 AM
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2. I look forward to the 15 PUMA threads with relish. I'm long on granite futures.
:rofl:
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:15 AM
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19. ROFL..
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:54 PM
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26. But short on
....
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 09:48 AM
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3. You are sadly correct. Which is why I am not watching any TV tonight.
News or the Convention.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 09:50 AM
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4. Knowing this to be the case... how do they counteract it?
How about if she calls out the media in her speech???
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qwlauren35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:03 PM
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22. Actually, I think that might do it.
She needs to shame them into shutting the f*ck up.

"I am Hillary Clinton, and I do NOT approve this message!!!"
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 09:54 AM
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5. 26 threads of whiners saying her speech wasn't good enough. nt.
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 09:56 AM
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6. Interesting things in place
Two Days of Clintons

Roll Call Vote

Full Votes for Michican & Florida

Hillary sanitizes herself by saying she'll release her delegates......

the pieces are all in place for it.
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qwlauren35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:10 PM
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23. People need to get over this "Two Days of Clintons" CRAP.
One of them is a former PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, and one of the only two Democratic presidents still alive.

And the other one is a two term Senator from New York who nearly won this year's Democratic primary election, one of the true historic firsts of our party - the first women to ever win states in a Democratic primary as a presidential contender, supported by 18 million voters from across the United States.

What the F*ck do you expect that DNC to do. Not let them speak???

Get real.


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EarlG ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 09:59 AM
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7. I think you are exactly correct
The media have been playing up this "civil war" story non-stop. I think a lot of people will be surprised when they tune in tonight and find Clinton enthusiastically praising Obama and taking a giant dump all over McCain.

But of course, whatever she does, the media will have to shoe-horn it into their "civil war" narrative, so look for a) the "wrong choice" spin as you described above, and b) micro-analysis of Hillary's tone, facial expression, body movements, etc. in an effort to find anything that might indicate that her heart wasn't truly in it.

See here, where her upper lip momentarily twitched after she said Barack Obama will be the next president of the United States? Let's go to the high-speed camera so you can see it in super-slow motion...

I'd like to think that a barnstormer of a speech by Hillary tonight would shut the door on this whole topic, but of course the media will never allow that to happen. They have a story, and they're sticking to it.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:04 AM
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17. We can't stop the media. I just wish we didn't have so many DUers who will also be making "an
effort to find anything that might indicate that her heart wasn't truly in it." And then rehashing the primaries and any old grudges against the Clintons that they can dredge up.

It's been so discouraging to post topics here about the help Clinton has been giving Obama, and then watch them drop like rocks, deliberately ignored, while we get regular repeats of posts saying, "What's Clinton doing for Obama? I haven't heard of anything. I knew she wasn't going to do anything to help him!"

Hillary's backing Obama. She can't deliver all her supporters to him, any more than he could have gotten all his supporters to back her, if she'd been the nominee. It doesn't work that way. But she's trying to unify the party, as I knew she would. And I believe that if it had been the other way around, he'd have been doing the same thing.

They're both great Democrats, great politicians.

Bill is, too, of course, and I'm looking forward to his speech tomorrow night.

Michelle and Teddy were amazing last night. I just wish they'd both been featured in that hour all the networks covered, for the largest possible audience.
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:04 AM
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8. Sad but true. :( nt
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sourmilk Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:05 AM
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9. "...there will be 15 threads on GD: P saying "We should've nominated her.""
Not likely.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:47 AM
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14. I'll be very surprised if there are any, let alone 15. Unless from low-post-count newcomers who
will be immediately TS'd.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:58 AM
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16. Are you kidding?
be serious, hpd.

You'll have several threads yourself saying how you wish she would've won.


You post it in different (sometimes subtle, sometimes not so) ways many times each day.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:10 AM
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18. You're hallucinating, scheming daemons.
And it's obvious from your own post that you're simply trying to spin anything I say into the message you want to claim I posted.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:05 AM
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10. One things is for sure
FOx will call it a failure and will manage to find whatever disgruntled Hillary supporters are left to fan the flames.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:53 AM
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15. Well, if Fox could criticize Michelle's amazing speech, they could criticize anything.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:18 AM
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11. I predict a great speech, and endless threads here about how she didn't do enough
how every other word, or gesture, hell, even the color of her clothing or her hairstyle are actually code that she doesn't support Obama, doesn't want her supporters to, is kicking off her 2012 campaign, etc.

Hell, it wouldn't surprise me to see those threads before the speech.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:27 AM
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12. I think she'll do great and MORE than enough....... I just think that the media will find a
negative spin.


My prediction is that the media will spin it that the people in the convention hall now have "buyer's remorse" because Hillary's speech was so good.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:43 AM
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13. I agree completely with your prediction.
She will give a fantastic speech.

And the Clinton-bashers here will bitch about it anyway. As they'll bitch about Bill's speech tomorrow night. Though it will also be a great speech that most Democrats will love.
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:23 AM
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20. And even a few complaining that she didn't commit suicide
for Obama on national TV. And, even if she did, they'd claim it was fake, she didn't die quickly enough, or that she did it so she can run as a corpse in 2012. This place is C.R.E.E.P.y.
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qwlauren35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:02 PM
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21. D*mn, that's a painful analysis.
And probably too true.

Just confirming my belief that Hillary is 100% percent on board, but since it's not a story that sells, the media pundits are finding every possible angle in which to keep fanning the fires of dissent in our party.

And it really p*sses me off.

:mad:
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:15 PM
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24. Why wouldn't her supporters think she should've been nominated?
No one's asking them to forget their support for Hillary and nobody should. And of course they're going to wish it had been her. That's only natural and doesn't mean they can't still support Obama.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:45 PM
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25. Don't forget Faux/MSM's treatment of Michelle's speech
after she hit it out of the park and into the Pacific: "Disappointing; she coulda/shoulda said.."

Same will probably apply to Hillary's speech, even if the entire place is swaying and singing 'Kumbiah' afterwards.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:28 PM
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27. Self-Kick... JUST AS I PREDICTED!
David Gregory uttered the "buyer's remorse" comment.
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