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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 10:00 AM
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POLL: 70% of Hillary supporters now back Obama, the highest level ever
The conventions are also about solidifying support among the party faithful. So far, Republicans have been slightly more likely to back McCain than Democrats have been to support Obama (84 to 79 percent in this poll), in part because 20 percent of those who supported Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton in the primaries said they now favor McCain over Obama. But 70 percent of her supporters back Obama -- the highest level since she suspended her campaign in June.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/23/AR2008082302288_pf.html
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darius15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 10:06 AM
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1. Good stuff
I always thought that PUMA was overrated and talked about wayyy too much in the media.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 10:09 AM
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2. Oh My! Smarmy spinner Georgie Steph just said on ABC...
"Our new poll says ... <drum roll> ...3 in 10 Hillary voters are not supporting Obama." Right...

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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 10:17 AM
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3. I know all three of them
:-(
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IndependentDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 10:19 AM
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4. two words.
Edited on Sun Aug-24-08 10:19 AM by IndependentDem
Fuck Off!


(georgie and the pumas, not you)
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Undercurrent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 07:09 PM
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27. Looks like Georgie got it
bass akwards. What an idiot!
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 10:21 AM
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5. It's up to Hillary now
To get to those who are "real" democrats, and not republicans pretending to be democrats, and tell them they "have" to get behind Obama so we don't have McCain in the whitehouse. She can do this, and the sooner she gets started the better. I hope to see her start at the convention with a really good speech to rally her supporters behind Obama and Biden!
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27inCali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:26 PM
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12. She will
but we can't hold it against her if she does her best and some children still decide to hold their breathe and stamp their feet.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:32 PM
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16. very true, but we need her best right now.
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:40 PM
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24. People who aren't registered to her site...
...don't know how many emails and videos she has sent in support of Obama. I'm sure that her presence at the convention will bring the rest of them.
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Barb in Atl Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 08:18 PM
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31. I don't know...
Edited on Sun Aug-24-08 08:20 PM by BleedinHeart
I think Senator Clinton could do a full song and dance with CGI enhancements and it wouldn't make a wit of difference.

This weekend, went canvassing. I was in Morrow or Forest Park (GA) and came across an older man and his son outside. I introduced myself, told my purpose (looking for Obama supporters to volunteer on the campaign) and was treated to a friendly recitation of the reasons JS the younger is not an Obama supporter and will be voting for McCain. It was all the same stuff - sexism, the press, some other things. I asked him if he was okay with the idea of McCain as president. He said that McCain won't be so bad. I suggested that McCain would probably bomb Iran at his first opportunity. JS the younger didn't think so.

I appreciated the conversation, because, like I said, he was nice enough and did let me ask questions and listened to some of my thoughts. He even went so far as to say that he probably wasn't going to vote for McCain. I suggested Bob Barr if he couldn't bring himself to vote for Obama. He also was very surprised that I, a black woman, would have supported Obama over Hillary - he had expected (if we're going to do identity politics) gender solidarity before ethnicity. I had other homes to visit and didn't have time for that conversation. In any case, he did tell me that his dad (50+ if he was a day) is an Obama supporter.

The other displeased Hillary supporter wasn't nearly so congenial. I wished her a good weekend when she finished her speech.

My point being - there are some Hillary supporters that will NEVER support Obama no matter what the senator from New York does. And that's okay - so long as all those able get out there to drum as much support and as many votes as possible for Obama / Biden.

(should clicked that check spelling button)
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:31 PM
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15. We'll see what happens after the convention.
I'm hoping she does the right thing and makes it clear these fools do not speak for her and are a disgrace.

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progressiveforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 10:23 AM
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6. maybe this will become a dead issue
I was hardcore Obama from the beginning, but if Hillary won the nomination, I would not want him to be crying sour grapes.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 10:23 AM
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7. That was always the biggest bunch of hoo hockey going
Edited on Sun Aug-24-08 11:11 AM by peacetrain
My brother is the all time Hillary and by association Bill supporter. He is 100% in the Obama camp. The few and the disillusioned, what are you going to do with them. Throw away the campaign because they have got their heads stuck in the sand. Hillary has been trying to coddle those people, soothe their wounds, to the point it is costing her political capital

She has HAD it up to the eyebrows with them. They are hurting her now politically, because she is not leaving the party. They are hurting Bill politically trying to get him on the defensive outside of the party leadership. I know some of the DLC people are in a funk, but hey, the same thing happened when they took power.

It is part of the political cycle. And the press is going to play it for all its worth. They are going to pump those analysts to try and keep the story going, they are only human also.

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predfan Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 10:31 AM
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8. IF one claims to be a Democrat, there should be no hesitancy about this vote.
I'll even give the benefit of the doubt, and say there will be some who may have to hold their nose to do it. But it must be done, because there are issues bigger than Obama, Hillary, or me and you at stake. We simply cannot afford 4 more years of bush. We cannot afford to let a Republican choose the next two, or three, Supreme Court Justices.

We may have disagreements about the primary, but anyone who says they can't support the Democratic candidate for President, and will instead vote for McCain, isn't a Democrat.

I'm a little tired of hearing the pundits talking about the old Hillary for President 2112 campaign.
We'd all better be concerned about 2008. Today. Right now.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 10:32 AM
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9. Wow! That number went up 20% since yesterday
Didn't they cite only 50% yesterday or the day before yesterday?
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 10:34 AM
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10. Yet hacks like Bill Press...
will still talk about "Hillary bringing 18 million voters"

Enough already.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:24 PM
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11. I figured they would move on. The masses want victory.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:28 PM
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13. That's pathetic.
Edited on Sun Aug-24-08 06:29 PM by Zhade
I can't believe that many are that petulant.

clinton deadenders: Obama won fair and square. I'm sorry you're upset he beat clinton in every metric (including the popular vote), but even she's behind him now.

He's never insulted you. He's never talked down to you. He's never given you any reason to not support him - hell, he's been far more gracious to you than you deserve.

Grow the fuck up. If you enable a mcLame presidency, you will be responsible for the horrors to come.

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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:38 PM
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22. Thats actually an excellent number
Hillary was probably pulling in close to 30% Republican women, most of which won't think much about voting for Obama. It can't go much higher than 70%.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:43 PM
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25. Well, okay. Good to hear then.
NT!

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shellgame26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 09:38 PM
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35. I agree with you zhade
I'm so sick of hearing pundits in the MSM go on about "how she was treated". How was she treated? Did they all forget who threw the kitchen sink, Old hag Ferraro and sleazy Mark Penn? The truth is Obama never had their vote for (cough, cough) obvious reasons.
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:29 PM
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14. It will be even higher after the convention.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:33 PM
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17. That's probably why the media had to put out that BS story that Obama "didn't even vet Hillary or
consult with her." :eyes:
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:37 PM
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21. I think most Hillary supporters are genuinely insulted
by the faux outrage being bandied about by the MSM and others.I know I am.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 07:05 PM
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26. I hope they ARE...
just like you. :hi:
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:34 PM
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18. And that is before they hear from her and realize how awsome Biden has been on women's issues
Edited on Sun Aug-24-08 06:34 PM by usregimechange
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:35 PM
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19. Since 30% were probably Republicans then that has probably maxed out
It probably can't go much higher than that.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 07:59 PM
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29. I don't think it's quite that high, maybe 10-15%
And then another 5% are just fanatics who won't get over the primaries. I think the number will jump a bit more when Hillary and Bill speak at the convention.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:36 PM
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20. Well, once Clinton officially signs on in support of Obama...
...those that don't follow her won't really be Clinton supporters, will they?
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Hawaii Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 06:39 PM
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23. As well they should; Clinton & Obama have SMALL differences on some issues, but the
differences between Obama & McBush are PROFOUND....IE; judges, Iraq, economy, environment, & just about EVERY F-ing important issue there is....

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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 07:11 PM
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28. Pretty good since "Hillary supporters" polled includes Limbaugh Republicans
False supporters were maybe 10% of her voters (25% after 2/19, very few before that). So this is 70% out of the remaining sincere 90%.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 08:02 PM
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30. It just takes time. After a smooth convention the party will be united.
It looks like Hillary is playing ball so most of the rest of her supporters will come around.
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cyndensco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 09:04 PM
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32. My sister told me the Orange County (NY) delegates were being interviewed
before heading to Denver. They said they were all Hillary supporters during the primary, were disappointed she was not placed on the ticket, but were now 100% for Obama. Go Obama!
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 09:06 PM
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33. How do they define "Hillary supporter"
Are they people who wanted Hillary to win during the primaries or are they only the people that voted for Hillary during the primaries?
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 09:11 PM
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34. 70% of 18 mil is about 12.6 mil people added to Obama's 18 mil = We PWN McCain!! n/t
Edited on Sun Aug-24-08 09:11 PM by vaberella
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 10:12 AM
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36. let's not forget some rascists will use Hillary as an excuse not
Edited on Mon Aug-25-08 10:12 AM by samsingh
to vote for Obama because of his skin color.
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