NBC poll - 13% undecided. Half support Hillary for president

[creeksneakers2]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/26316412#26316412



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26314990/

(snip)
For Obama, he receives the support of just one in two voters who backed Hillary Clinton in the primaries,

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The Clinton factor
Yet perhaps the biggest factor keeping the presidential race close has been Obama’s inability to close the deal with some of Hillary Clinton’s supporters. According to the poll, 52 percent of them say they will vote for Obama, but 21 percent are backing McCain, with an additional 27 percent who are undecided or want to vote for someone else.

What’s more, those who backed Clinton in the primaries — but aren’t supporting Obama right now — tend to view McCain in a better light than Obama and have more confidence in McCain’s ability to be commander-in-chief.

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It’s also worth noting that while Obama leads McCain by three points in the poll, Clinton edges the Republican by six points in a hypothetical match up, 49 to 43 percent. But she remains a polarizing figure: 49 percent say they don’t want to see her as president someday, and 42 percent view her favorably versus 41 percent who see her in a negative light.

[azmouse]

1. Shame on those HRC people for not getting behind the Dem nominee.

[tekisui]

2. Seconded.

Bitter deadeanders wanting to cut off their noses to spite their face.

Shame on them.

[JoFerret]

16. I think she managed to draw some pretty wide support

and not just yellow dog dems. This needs more analysis and not just off the cuff condemnation.

She seemed to tap into something and she did it over time. This is what I noticed at least - many who were not great fans a year ago really warmed to her. And it was not anti-Obama but rather pro Hillary.

But there will be time for such analysis. Right now we have to elect president Obama.

[CakeGrrl]

3. This is noteworthy:

Yet perhaps the biggest factor keeping the presidential race close has been Obama’s inability to close the deal with some of Hillary Clinton’s supporters. According to the poll, 52 percent of them say they will vote for Obama, but 21 percent are backing McCain, with an additional 27 percent who are undecided or want to vote for someone else.

What’s more, those who backed Clinton in the primaries — but aren’t supporting Obama right now — tend to view McCain in a better light than Obama and have more confidence in McCain’s ability to be commander-in-chief.

For these reasons, Hart believes that Clinton’s speech on the Tuesday night of the Democratic convention will be a significant event. “The Democratic convention is more than a coronation,” he says. “It is an event where the words of Hillary Clinton are probably going to be exceptionally important.”

Wherever did they get the notion that McCain would make a better Commander-in-Chief than Obama?

:grr:

[Barack_America]

6. .

*nodshead*

[DevonRex]

7. .

nodshead too.

[Cosmocat]

13. This might be the ball game ...

the Clintons need to get in line - NO EQUIVICATING ...

Todd's analysis really hit me ... BO is fighting on too many god darned fronts - McCain, the Rs in general, the media AND the Clintons at this point ...

IF the Clintons get over it and do the RIGHT GOD DARNED THING, that could be a MAJOR shift back in BO's favor ...

[Spazito]

4. Hmmmm, this describes repubs not DEMOCRATS, imo..

"...but aren’t supporting Obama right now — tend to view McCain in a better light than Obama and have more confidence in McCain’s ability to be commander-in-chief."

[DevonRex]

5. Then they're just fucking scum. No other way to put it. nt

[Radical Activist]

8. Talk about media bias.

They're polling for a candidate that isn't even in the race. Shows how much Hillary dragging this nomination out was media driven.

But it confirms the trend that Hillary never reaches 50% in favorability polls. People don't like her and that never will change.

[underpants]

14. EXACTLY- plus did they ask Repubs if they are voting for McCain?

Look Dems don't pick up 3 House seats in Indiana AND Kentucky (each) even with a diluted Repub turnout, can we call them "Obama Republicans" :evilgrin: or more aptly "Anti-wholesale corruption and incompetence Republicans" ???

Also there is nothing to stop anyone from claiming to be a Dem and then answering as this poll would indicate.

THIS is damning (he only has 3 months to change this...won't)
As for McCain, nearly eight in 10 voters believe that the Arizona senator would closely follow President Bush’s policies if elected

[MGKrebs]

9. I don't think that the 49% who don't want HRC as President "someday"

are not helping matters.

She is a leading Democrat, a Senator, and she got 18 million votes. How could any self-respecting Democrat expect unqualified support from her people and not give it in return? How do we expect to attract the defeated legions when they are reminded so bluntly that they are not welcome?

[fifthoffive]

11. Err...

The 49% includes Republicans. It's not 49% of Democrats. If Clinton was the Democratic candidate, I'd be behind her 100&. She's not. Her supporters need to get over it and support the nominee. And I don't want to see any of that "He's not the nominee" hair-splitting.

[MGKrebs]

12. Exactly my point.

Ex-Hillary supporters show up at campaign headquarters and instead of "welcome, she's a great asset, what an exciting primary" or whatever, it's "get over it".

I thought we would have been much further along by now, but it's not happening.

It's the WINNER who is supposed to be gracious because they CAN. They can know that they won and therefore it should be easy to say the things that make the losers feel better because in the end, they still won. But too many Obama zealots want to revel in the victory and rub the losers face in it... that is what "get over it" means.

That's a hell of an attitude to try to win an election with.

[Blarch]

10. Ha.

We will reap what we sow.

Most of us knew Hillary was hurting the party ...and called her on it.

And now here we are.

Fuck her ..she is a hack.

Never before has a Democratic candidate claimed their Dem opponent was not qualified for the WH while praising the repub for being qualified.

It's never ever happened ...till Hillary got in the race...now we have a problem. Well no shit.

[Faygo Kid]

15. Where's the whole crowd who said this was just a "handful" of disgruntled supporters?

They weren't going to be a problem.

They were going to come around.

They had every right to be angry.

Those who posted most vehemently here for Hillary and against Obama would never leave for some hate-filled anti-Obama renegade sites.

Bottom line: Anybody who sounded the alarm about this phenomenon was immediately labeled as delusional at best and anti-Hillary at worst. So there was never a serious discussion to be had.

"For Obama, he receives the support of just one in two voters who backed Hillary Clinton in the primaries." Yeah, nothing to be concerned about. Move along here.

[MGKrebs]

17. "there was never a serious discussion to be had. "

OK, so let's have the discussion now.
What do we do? Are we going to continue to isolate, insult, shun, and rebuff those people? Can we win this election without most of them?

How do we convince them to come back? What do they want? What do they need? At this point, they are yet another demographic that (probably) needs to be addressed.

Saying "get over it" isn't a solution. What if they don't?