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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 04:55 AM
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Please Obama choose your VP today!
The waiting is driving me mad. I'm even talking to MY dog about what Obama's VP could be. Sure my dog is pretty smart, but as a British dog, I'm sure he doesn't understand American politics.

As I leave for America tomorrow (and yes I will watch the Convention live! I'm looking forward to it!), I really really really really really want to know BEFORE my flight to Minnesota. If I don't know by my flight, six hours of my cellphone turned off and no internet to check who his VP is will probably drive me mad.

Thusly I'm preparing a few reads for the flight. If Obama chooses his VP today, I might read one of his books. If Obama doesn't choose before I leave, I'm reading something not political!

This is a relief from that hoax thread that I found not funny. I know people might tell me to lighten up but come on! I've been thinking about who his VP could be for 2 weeks.

Also, PLEASE do not do hoax announcements, it's really annoying. I enjoyed Barack Roll, but don't say HERE'S HIS VP! and Barack Roll me. It might be tempting, but don't, I mean really don't.
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CarbonDate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 05:02 AM
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1. I don't know.
The Brits I talked to in Australia seemed to have a better grasp of American politics than a lot of Americans I've talked to.
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 06:00 AM
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3. I had the opportunity to be outside the US and watch the primaries
I remember talking to my mum in December before my parents came here for New Years. She thought Hillary would win, despite her not liking Hillary very much (not trying to flame here, just a POV from my mum). I said she won't win, Obama will win.

My mum initially backed Richardson and still likes him to this day, changing to Obama after Richardson dropped out (caucused for Obama in Minnesota).

I also argued with people in the pub and they all thought Clinton would win, saying that no one would vote for a black man. I said nope Obama will win the nomination.

I've tried to think of several factors in choosing his VP, and I've come to a conclusion and it's not a popular one here though (Biden and Kaine are popular choices here):

1) Obama is a candidate that takes risks, and the results are positive for him. He took the risk running for President (everyone expected him to lose). He took the risk with the 50 State Strategy (people mocked him, "winning the states that don't matter" sort of talk). He took a giant risk with the famous race speech and it was fantastically positive for him.

His VP choice will be a risk choice. It'll be someone who we didn't expect. It'll be someone that people may say, "Oh, too much change." Obama has defined himself as a Change candidate and his VP will be the embodiment of change as well.

2) 50-State-Strategy: This was Obama's mantra during the primaries and it worked for him. He'll now focus on this strategy while running against McCain. The idea of this is to work hard in safe Dem states but also take advantage of states that the Republicans have always depended on winning but don't bother visiting much. Obama's VP choice will have the advantage of delivering as many former R states to the Dem column.

Here's my analysis of the 4 most talked about VP choices and the chances of adding a state to the D column: Biden (0 states added, comes from a strong Dem state), Bayh (0 states added, as Indiana is quite conservative), Kaine (1 state added and even that is a bit sketchy, but Virginia is slowly trending blue), Sebelius (0 states added, Kansas probably won't go to Obama).

Obama's best chance of adding more to the D column is to pick someone from the mountain west. If he picks Richardson, he most likely has at least 3 state pickups (New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado) and putting 3 states in play (Arizona, possibly Texas, and possibly Florida). The aim is to get as many EVs as he can and none of the 4 most talked about possible VP choices do that.

Also the 50 state strategy will put several states back in the D column such as Iowa and Missouri.

That's why I think Obama might pick someone from the Mountain West and also an embodiment of his message. Someone like Richardson would fit the bill.

It may not be a popular choice here (Biden seems to be in front of all the polls) but in order for Obama's 50 State Strategy to really come to fruition it'll be someone from the Mountain West.
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 05:39 AM
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2. I'm with you!
I just bit the bullet and signed up for the VP text and now I'm staring at my phone and waiting...

:rofl:

P.S. - Your dog may know more than you think he knows!
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 06:03 AM
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4. I was thinking about signing up for that text thing
But I don't think the Obama campaign would text a british number.

So email it is! and I constantly check my emails!
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 06:25 AM
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5. Wise, I'd say...
I'm not so sure they'd text a British number either, but now of course I'm curious. :D
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 06:42 AM
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7. Me too...
I did try to donate using my British address (I wanted to buy something from the shop) and they wouldn't let me so I had to use my old address in the US (fortunately my parents still live there!).
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 07:09 AM
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10. Good thing!
It's always handy to have a second address to use. :evilgrin:
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 07:50 AM
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12. It'll always be my address
It doesn't matter if my parents move out of that house, it'll always be mine! As I have to put the last address I lived in the US on my absentee ballot.

It's a lovely address :-D If I wanted to donate in the future I'll sneakily borrow my sister's address... but it's in a different state though!
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 06:27 AM
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6. You could use those in-seat phones and call someone to check
if you REALLY have to know. Of course it might cost you $20 a minute. But if you use the pound it's half-price! ;)
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 06:43 AM
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8. lol
The problem with that is... I'm kind of deaf I doubt my hearing hubby would do that, he would just say JUST WAIT AND SEE!

And I will sit and pout in my seat!
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mrs_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 06:45 AM
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9. i, too, will be
incommunicado for three days and wish he would come out with it by 7am mountain time... but, it sounds like he is emailing/texting on friday, so i will just have to wait until i return. :-(
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 07:47 AM
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11. I'm sorry
If he doesn't announce today, I hope it'll be on Friday (sorry!) because I'll be in the US by then.

I'm kind of annoyed that he's strung me along like that! Grrr.... but that shows he's quite thoughtful about his VP and isn't quick to choose him/her.
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:49 PM
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13. 9:30 pm my time in the UK
Edited on Wed Aug-20-08 03:49 PM by Zenzic
And no announcement... *sniff*
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 04:19 PM
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14. 10:00 my time
I'm getting slightly annoyed... 4 CST/5 EST... and no announcement.... I leave the UK at 6 am and I'll be asking my hubby if he has heard anything!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 04:22 PM
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15. It has already been mentioned that Friday is the day......
with a Saturday appearance.
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 05:57 PM
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16. Thanks!
Hopefully the 6 hours to America doesn't include an Obama announcement.

It feels a little bit more special for me if I'm there and he announces. I'm wondering if this delay of announcing the vp is a really calculated move. Remember he's a chess player and his move might just weaken what had been McCain's strong area.

My last post until I'm in the US... Therefore no political tomes for me to read on the flight!!!
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