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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:26 PM
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I've never encountered a "McCain Supporter". Have you?
Oh sure, I've seen plenty of folks who are going to vote for that silly old bastard, but I've never seen anyone who has anything nice to say about him. Even McCain's own website is mostly devoted to bashing Sen Obama, yet strangely silent about why anyone should support him.

It's weird. Nobody has anything positive to say about John McCain, except that he was a POW. That's it. How did this guy secure the GOP nomination? Nobody really likes him. Even Fucko Limbaugh rips on the guy every day. They don't want him to win; they just want the (D) to lose. That's all they can offer to any debate regarding the upcoming general election.

Why hasn't anyone hipped me to the wonderful world of John McCain? Perhaps, they're just going to vote AGAINST the marxist, socialist, young, inexperienced, muslin, black separatist, christian, fit, intelligent, elitist nigger. (before anyone gets upset, I used a word that I hate and have gotten into fistfights over)

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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:28 PM
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1. Yesterday...for the first time...I had the displeasure of meeting two McBush Lovers...
...and the asshole and his pal had a collective IQ of maybe 40...and that is giving both of them the benefit of the doubt.

A Navy Vet ~~ female medic ~~ and I took these two assholes on and owned them in less than 60 seconds!

:evilgrin:

Like shooting fish in a barrel! :bounce:
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:29 PM
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2. My vet is a rabid Republican and he believes McCain is senile
and is writing in Ron Paul.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:30 PM
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3. I hope you encouraged him/her to make that protest vote.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:40 PM
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14. I didn't have to. He TRULY believes McCain is senile and won't vote
for him because of that.
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FormerConservative Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 06:28 PM
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59. And don't forget the PTSD / anger management issues...
I just don't understand how *anyone* can vote for the man.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:31 PM
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4. The usual term is truss but "McCain supporter" may catch on
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:31 PM
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5. By your definition, no.
Yesterday, my friend's roommate was telling me he was reluctant to vote for John McCain, despite having voted for George Bush twice. Of course, he had no kind words for Obama, but none for McCain either. "I'm just so disillusioned with politics and politicians right now," he said. "I may not vote at all."

Eeeeexcellent...
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:33 PM
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7. Tell him to vote for Bob Barr.
That's an easy sell, and he can be happy with his choice.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 06:21 PM
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57. i love that one
I'm using it, too....gobama!
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:32 PM
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6. Generally, his supporters find only two arguments "in favor" of McCain
1. He's anti-change.
2. He's not black.

Beyond those two issues (concealed, though they may be, in less stark framing), I've never heard any argument put forth in support of McCain. And even those two issues are abhorrent to anyone with any sense of how the world works.

At a local county fair last night, I saw a registration station for good ol' McCain, along with a lot of idiots wearing Vote McCain t-shirts.

:shrug:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:35 PM
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8. McLoser is gonna be FAR WORSE THAN W BUSH if elected..
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:45 PM
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18. well...YEAH.
It's hard for some to wrap their heads around the fact that McCain = more military douchebaggery, but that's all he knows. That plays well to the "USA! HELL YEAH!" crowd, but everyone else gives him a vote of "WTF?!?!"
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 04:09 PM
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29. my husband said that last night. nt
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ebdarcy Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:16 PM
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44. You know, if anyone had asked me a few months ago if there
could be a worse president than bush, I would've said hell no. But the last month or so has convinced me that McCain would indeed be worse than bush. And that scares me, a lot.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:22 PM
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46. The man is a FRAUD...a doddering old FOOL.....who chose this dude,,,,shoot them...
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Arnold Judas Rimmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:36 PM
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9. Ironically enough, most of the "McCain supporters" seem to be alleged "Democrats"
As in the pharma-funded kitty cult members. The Republicans I know would rather vote Barr or write in Ron Paul.

And I'm encouraging them to do so :evilgrin:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:48 PM
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21. They're liars.
No real Democrat would vote for McCain. They are just fucking with you.
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:36 PM
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10. He doesn't have supporters, he has minions.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:40 PM
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13. He has anti-Obama minions.
I've yet to see a pro-McCain minion. They're more rare than unicorn farts.
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grannie4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:37 PM
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11. omg yes
one of my best friend is a mccain supporter. each election we end up on the opposite side. the weird thing is i cannot believe she really understands that her political belief's are totally opposed to her internal beliefs about how people should be. it is so creepy!!!
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:50 PM
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22. Has she said anything positive about McCain?
Or does she just bash Sen Obama?

(I know the answer to that question...)
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:38 PM
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12. No. I'm sure there are some out there in my area, but (shrug) they're hiding out.
:shrug: I've seen a total of one McCain bumper sticker as well. And I live in a fairly "red" county.

LOL.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:41 PM
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15. I saw one a few days ago and broke out laughing.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:43 PM
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16. No....But then again, I don't go digging around in his gym bag either...
:shrug:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:47 PM
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20. In his gym bag, you'll find an adult diaper and a gun.
Yeah I "went there". :D
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:44 PM
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17. Come to think of it..not one
You are right... I have met people who are touting 3rd party canidates, but the republicans are pretty darned quiet, .. I haven't even seen a McCain yard sign.. My gosh I have not connected that till you posted.. thank you!!
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 04:05 PM
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27. You're welcome.
Nobody (RWers) wants to vote for McCain. But they'll do it only because they hate Obama.

This is actually a Good Thing, because many Republicans will stay home instead of voting for a Human Rain-Delay.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:45 PM
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19. Only While Phone Banking
one guy was a real asshole - I called for a woman who was listed as a registered D and he must have been her B-Friend - I hung up on him eventually after a few minutes of going round and round.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:56 PM
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24. Did he support McCain, or did he oppose Obama?
Did he name ONE THING that McCain has done to earn his vote?

(I'm guessing NO)
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 04:01 PM
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26. Supported War - Completely Ill-Informed
that's why I hung up on him. Can't argue with a moran.

Wished I had known about the soldiers donating 6 to 1 to Obama, but the news of that came a couple days earlier.
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:22 PM
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45. Same here:
Several in fact and this is a highly democratic area.

One guy laughed before hanging up on me!
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:54 PM
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23. I know a few "9/11 republicans" here in NYC.
They don't know a thing about McCain OR Obama, they just want to kill all muslims.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:58 PM
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25. Again, they're afraid of Obama's name/race.
Low info voters. They will (sadly) have a large impact in November.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 04:57 PM
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39. Oh, no, they won't have any impact here in New York, that's one good thing.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 04:08 PM
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28. my hairdresser who has lived
in arizona her entire life is supporting McCain. she said "he's been our senator for a long time -- i'm voting for him". she was shocked when i told her i was an obama supporter. for some reason, i detected a bit of racisim on her part.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 04:22 PM
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34. I wouldn't go back to her.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 04:33 PM
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35. That makes a sorta backwards-assed sense.
Kind of like cheering for the local sports team, for no other reason than they have a nearby stadium.

I'm guilty of supporting the Cincinnati Reds, and OSU football for that same reason, but I know the difference between sports and the future of our nation.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:04 PM
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41. unfortunately that's how some people
vote. she admits that she doesn't follow politics. the next time i see her i'm going to ask her how she feels about a woman's right to choose. she's 30 and single.
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LowerManhattanite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 04:14 PM
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30. Here and there...
...but sadly, too often here. :(
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 04:15 PM
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31. Yes...here's a pic:
Fur-lined no less:


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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 04:21 PM
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32. Yes, an in-law who gave $$$ to McCain. I found out by checking on the internets.
He never talks about politics. He knows that the rest of the entire family are Democrats and is totally silent about politics. I have never met anyone else who claims they actually support McCain.
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PermanentRevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:01 PM
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40. I think GrovelBot is a McCain supporter...
He's kinda shifty-looking, if you ask me. I mean, do we REALLY know what he's doing with all those donations?
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 04:37 PM
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36. I know a few. Republican insiders here in AZ. Trust me, they're not enthused about him. nt
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 04:56 PM
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38. Again, they're just going to vote for the not-obama.
Nobody gives a single shit about McCain.

That bodes well for us in November.

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 04:41 PM
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37. Not yet, but I am in Mass, where Repubs are a dying breed.
Thankfully. :)
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Honu one Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:08 PM
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42. No McCain supporters, but some that are voting for him out of fear of Obama
And a few even admitted it's because he is black.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:25 PM
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48. What are they afraid of?
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Honu one Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:42 PM
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53. They're parents of friends who are holding on to biases they grew up with
Sadly these are voters who would likely vote Dem, but they are afraid of the person they cannot relate to and will vote for McCain.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 06:12 PM
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56. Let them know that we're going to beat them, so it's best that they stay home.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:09 PM
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43. Even my RW family members aren't real happy with him. They'll
vote for him because they hate democrats.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:23 PM
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47. I have seen 2 lawn signs and 1 bumper sticker... never spoke to any supporter of his
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:37 PM
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50. That's because there AREN'T any!
His base consists of:

* People who have an irrational hatred of Democrats
* People who are afraid of Black Folks
* People who think "America? Hell Yes! Love it or leave it, hur hur hur"
* Rich people protecting their tax loopholes
* People in Bumfuck, USA who are scared of the "turrists" (pussies)

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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:32 PM
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49. One.
Freaks me out a little. She was a bushie in '04, but I thought she was smart enough to learn from her mistakes. She's the only one I've met, though.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:39 PM
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51. What has she said in FAVOR of John McCain?
That's a different thing than bitching about Obama, mind you.
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:40 PM
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52. Most repubs are voting for him with holding nose
i have met some but they are voting for the "r" not him.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:49 PM
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54. No. And I've only ever seen one McCain bumper sticker
though I can usually count a half dozen Obama stickers in any parking lot. I live in Central Florida.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 05:52 PM
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55. I've never seen a McCain bumper sticker either.
I saw one for Reagan the other day, though.
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FormerConservative Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 06:24 PM
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58. My parents are hoping Mittens will be on the ticket...
Edited on Sat Aug-16-08 06:26 PM by FormerConservative
They'll use that to justify their vote for McBush.

It seems like a lot of wealthy, non-bible-thumping republicans really want Mitt as #2.

McCain is in a bit of a bind, though. The evangelicals will have a really hard time voting for a Mormon (especially since they are luke warm on McCain, at best). The non-evangelical republibots seem to want him ("he's a master of economics and will keep our taxes low!!!")

What to do, McCain? What to do?

My parents may end up voting Republican no matter who is in the number 2 spot, though, simply because they fully believe that Obama is essentially a communist, or at least a socialist. My dad was throwing direct quotes from an afternoon right-wing radio program at me.

I'll do my very best to at least keep them from voting for McCain. Getting them to vote for Obama may be impossible.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 06:43 PM
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61. See? Nobody likes McCain!
I've only seen a few reasons to vote for McCain, and the underlying subtext is usually "I ain't voting for a darkie".

Encourage your parents to either stay home to to vote for Barr in protest. Nobody likes McCain.
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FormerConservative Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 06:53 PM
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62. My parents definitely aren't racist
I have a Mexican brother-in-law and a Chinese wife, and my parents have wonderful relationships with everyone, including their mixed-race grandkids.

They live in a very Republican area, however, and it's almost a cultural thing for them to vote for the "conservative" candidate.

They really are convinced their taxes will go way up under Obama, and that he'll pave the way towards a socialist future.

I've tried arguing politics with them but it gets pretty ugly...pretty quickly. We get along quite swimmingly when discussing *anything* else.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 07:10 PM
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65. I'm not stupid enough to suggest that ALL McCain voters are racists.
That would be simplistic idiotic nonsense.

What I'm asking is for evidence that someone is voting for McCain based on issues. (ten bucks says that you can't find a rational McCain-supporter who doesn't spend most of their time trashing Obama.)

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FormerConservative Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 07:18 PM
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68. Now this I agree with 100%
Sorry for getting a mite defensive! :)
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 06:34 PM
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60. the guy who made this video is pretending to be a McCain supporter
It's a minute long, and kinda funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01ZIflV8fUg



I know people who are going to vote for McCain, but I don't know anyone I'd call a "supporter" of him. They're all people who don't like to vote for Democrats for president, but I don't know anyone who likes the guy.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 07:12 PM
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66. Nah, never really came across one
I did see my first McCain bumpersticker on a Corrola driven by a 20 year woman (aprox).

I heard tell of another on SUV out in the land of Republican rich assholes.

There are also less ballot initiatives for consideration to mobilize the RW. I think if we can turn out then we win. The enthusiasm gap is clear. Usually, in Kentucky you are usually counting the different kinds of signs, not asking people if they've even seen one.
Maybe they will show up in strength for McCain but they don't seem to be the least bit happy about it.

It may be best to concentrate on removing the "moderate" myth from McCain, to remove him as a fall back candidate in the minds of the fence sitter types.
This might reassure a few, but rightwingers are a bitter lot, and are hard to deal with if they lose trust. Framing McCain as right winger probably nets us the most votes. Some people (like Fiorina) think McCain is pro-choice, for example.
Moderates cannot be allowed to think "McCain's not bad".

People declare McCain a moderate but seldom, if ever can describe stances he has (supposedly, right now).

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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 07:04 PM
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63. I know a lot of Republicans, but non of them like McCain, but they will vote for him anyway
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 07:05 PM
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64. No, but I honestly know hardly any Republicans of any kind. n/t
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 07:14 PM
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67. depends on what you mean
I know tons of people who will vote for him but you are correct in that no one seems especially excited about him
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 07:24 PM
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69. I said precisely what I wanted to say. McCain has no supporters.
Edited on Sat Aug-16-08 07:27 PM by Blue-Jay
His entire campaign is "I'm not Obama". Look at his website. He has no ideas of his own, the poor old prick.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:15 PM
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70. trouble is, where I live that's enough
ultimately, repukes goose-step to the man (yes - man) with the R
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:17 PM
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71. Yep, and get this...
They're both gay men in their 20s. :crazy:

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