A question regarding McCain and war

[MissHoneychurch]

That is something I can't understand.
McCain was a soldier in the Vietnam war, he got captured and was tortured. While being tortured he told his captivators false names instead of the names of his fellow soldiers.

Why is this man pro war and pro torture instead of fighting it with all means .... like that sissy ( :sarcasm: ) Kerry????? Why does he want young soldiers to suffer like he did? I doubt he took pleasure in combat and torture. Is he so old that his memory is putting a pink veil over his Vietnam experience?

It just puzzles me.

[tblue]

1. I think his experience left a major chip on his shoulder

He is a very angry & damaged man.

[MissHoneychurch]

2. That is the scary part

to have someone like that on a position like the presidency.

[cliffordu]

3. What tblue said. Exactly.

[chknltl]

4. I do not believe he represents his own feelings on this....

...or he is just too senile to remember. Frankly I ain't buying into the senility shtick. IMO this man is bought and paid for by the same folks who have purchased quite a few members of my government. The military industrial complex in America is making a boatload of money off of this war...it appears that they are the ones who mCcain represents because We The People are most assuredly not happy with torture or any of this war's results.

I tend to look at members of our government this way: Some look out for the peoples interests and some look out for the corporate interests but claim that they look out for the people's interests. Senator mCcain seems to flow whichever way he is paid to flow-sadly We The People have not contributed enough money to him to counter what the military industrial complex has contributed to him. That means he no longer represents us-(if he ever did that is). He is truly a greedy war-monger regardless of how he personally feels about war!

I believe what you witness from afar is a battle between We The People of America and our out of control capitalism. Pretty much all the terribleness that has come out of my country has been profitable to this or that corporation. That same terribleness is by and large, held in great disgust by the majority of our people but only when they can see it for what it is. The 'sleeping giant' that is the electorate only stirs so far but then it is lulled back to sleep by our corporate media.

Another-words most here believe that we aren't such a bad nation and that we have only done a few things wrong! When something comes to light that we know is wrong we tend to trust in our government to do what is right-to fix the matter. The reality is that they do not fix the matter, hell they don't fix anything-they just cover it up best they can! Guantanamo and the horrors there is one example, our use of torture is another.

So who is TRULY being represented here? We The People or We The corporations? The answer is in the results! When the results of America's foreign policies are looked at it becomes easy to see that We The People are no longer being represented. Our government is being used to manipulate the electorate in order that corporations see outrageous profits while the world suffers terribly!

Senator mCcain does not have our interests in mind Miss H. He only cares for the things he is paid to care for. This has little at all to do with what he may think or feel any more. It's all about what the corporations who own him think and feel.

[MissHoneychurch]

5. Thank you for your answer chknltl

I think I should think too much .... it scares me to think about what is going to happen in the near future.

[chknltl]

6. You live in an adult nation Miss H

I envy you for that. Don't let corporate controlled mCcain scare you Miss H. If he becomes President, America will have an even stronger Democratically controlled Congress to keep him fully in check. It is unlikely that he would be able to invade Iran for instance. I believe he will be used as a way for the crooks to get away with their loot. Anotherwords the bush crime family gets their full pardons and their corporate masters won't have to worry about trials. On the other hand those corporatist won't be pulling further 'adventures' like Iraq either.

Economically though America has yet to reach bottom and regardless of who we get as a president, this WILL have a ripple effect that you will feel in Europe. I believe in the combined wisdoms of the Europeans-I do not see you folks going so deep into our depression this time. Your leaders and your citizens are quite aware of what is happening in the world, I believe THAT will be your buffer from any worldwide depressions like Europe witnessed back in the 1920s. Maybe you folks can help us with a version of the Marshal Plan this time, I believe that America will be the focus of worldwide economic downturn but I am confident that if we needed it Europe would reach out to help us.

I DO think that Senator Obama will win. I do believe that he will bring America back into a responsible adult position-one which is respected by the rest of the adult nations of the world. He has already said that he wants to see an end to nuclear weaponry everywhere...that to me is an important issue which gets little discussion in my country yet is an issue of great concern everywhere else. We will also become more responsible regarding Global Warming under a President Obama. Furthermore I simply do not see him invading any countries-especially in order to reap insane profits for his corporate masters. (Speaking of which it is my opinion Senator Obama is far too new on the scene to have as many corporations owning him as Senator mCcain has.)

It is possible that in the long run America is nearing the bottom of this tragic period...we can only wait and see. I may not sound like one but I am an optimist. I think that eventually our world will get through this rough patch-that what we are witness to today is the birth-pains of something far better than anything which has come before. The adult citizens of this planet are not going to allow for the status quo for too much longer. We have a powerful new weapon to counter the greedy and the power-mad with...it's called the internet. Soon enough it will be the citizens of this planet's turn...well that's my belief.

[Guava Jelly]

7. I think he is just catering to his base.

He is saying and doing whatever he thinks will get him elected.
The sad thing is that I used to have a great respect for McCain.
He isn't the same guy anymore.

[MissHoneychurch]

8. Still

IF he gets (s)elected to become president don't you think he still owes the cooperation to pay them back what they gave him?

[Guava Jelly]

9. Oh yea.

And he will surely pay them back.
But he isn't going to win so we won't have to worry about it. :D :woohoo:

[Sadie4629]

10. I thought he was the lone Repub voice against torture?

But, I might be remembering incorrectly.

[MissHoneychurch]

11. I am sure he said it at one point

with all his flipflopping you can be sure he said everything :eyes:

[PA Democrat]

12. McCain has said he thinks that Vietnam was winnable and the US should not have left.

Now it seems he is transferring his regrets about Vietnam to Iraq with his insistence that we must "win". I find him frightening as he seems to think war is a solution for just about everything.