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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:40 PM
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Is Richardson really out of VP consideration?
I know the buzz has been Bayh, Biden and Kaine..... But.....




I still have hopes that Gov. Richardson will be on the ticket.

Might not the fundraiser for Hillary be an olive branch to the Clinton supporters and a way to lose the "Judas" tag placed on him by that crazy bald headed cajun?


IMHO Richardson still has the most impressive resume among the VP short listers, and can help with multiple swing states out west, as well as a general plus to turning out the latino vote.



Flame away.... I know, I asked for it
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:41 PM
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1. I would like to see him on the ticket too - my fav.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:41 PM
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2. I Totally Agree
They'd have to be nuts not to give him serious consideration.

I haven't heard a whisper of scandal, either.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:43 PM
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4. He once claimed to have been scouted for major leage baseball, but wasn't
that's it



I would blame it on trying to pick up girls in bars way back when, and it stuck.....
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:43 PM
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3. Anybody who has an actual chance is still in it until Obama announces his choice.
Personally, I think Obama already knows who he wants, but has chosen not to announce it yet. Until he does, Richardson is still technically "in".
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trewsx11 Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:44 PM
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5. #1 Rule for VP candidates: Do No Harm
Stellar resume, but he comes across as a total buffoon like Bush.

And a black guy and a Mexican on the same ticket? How do you think that will play in states like Ohio, Indiana, PA, Michigan? I don't think so.
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:48 PM
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9. Buffoon?? A bit harsh aren't we??? n/t
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trewsx11 Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:52 PM
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12. Didn't you watch any of the debates ???
I really really like Richardson, but why did he always have that stupid look on his face like he was about to pinch off a huge turd?

Richardson = perfect for a cabinet position in an Obama Adminstration. But as a VP candidate? Hell no.
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:55 PM
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I'm actually thinking that he will be White House Chief-of-Staff. But who knows (eom)
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 07:20 PM
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39. What does the Chief of Staff do? (I'm serious. Don't make me Google.) nt
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 08:45 PM
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44. They manage the White House and help set the agenda and the strategy for implementing that agenda
eom
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 09:49 PM
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46. Thanks. Still don't really GET it, but I'm sure Richardson would do well. :-) nt
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 09:52 PM
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47. Think Office Manager for the President... kinda like what Hillary said she wanted to do during the
primary


She would be a good one too. But she deserves to remain a Senator.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:48 PM
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10. i live in MI and I don't see it as an issue, but it may just be me. Besides, anyone willing to vote
for the "black guy" at the top of the ticket isn't gonna have a problem with the "brown guy" at the bottom of the ticket


I kinda see it as a plus (but I am nuts)


I would love to see a mixed race president, a latino vice and a female speaker all up on stage at once for the SOTU. To me that more accurately reflects our nation, much more than three old white christian men. (and I am an old white christian man)
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:55 PM
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15. Actually, there's a whole white guy between Obama's mom and Richardson's dad
Too bad they can't take him out and show them to all the white folks out there.
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DustyJoe Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:59 PM
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16. Hispanics
Being a lifelong resident of the state he currently governs, I think this 'buffoon' as you put it would really help lock in the latin votes that just might be needed. Who was your Governor again ?. Is he even mentioned anywhere ?.
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trewsx11 Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 05:02 PM
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19. Re: Hispanics
Yes, my governor is Tim Kaine. He's been mentioned plenty recently.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 05:15 PM
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23. It's so great that you've joined us to bash Dems! Thanks! nt
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 05:33 PM
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28. Pat Buchanan is that YOU? I hear that Rush Limbaugh met his wife, anonymously online
Edited on Wed Jul-30-08 05:36 PM by crankychatter
imagine HER surprise when she laid eyes on that pumpkin headed son of a b***h

edited out naughtiness
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trewsx11 Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 05:38 PM
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30. ???
Umm....Okay.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:37 PM
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34. Your post was pretty harsh... Gov. Richardson is in no way a "Buffoon", plus your racial comments
were quite blunt.


I just tried to ignore it, but I can see why some might be offended enough to comment.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 07:16 PM
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37. .
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:44 PM
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6. Personally, I think anyone who isnt talked about in the MSM
....has the best chance of becoming Obama's VP choice.

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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:45 PM
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7. not out of consideration but not likely
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:45 PM
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8. Richardson, Schweitzer, and Clark get no respect...
..and none of them would cost a seat in the Senate. It really sucks.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 07:23 PM
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40. Just because the media isn't discussing them,
doesn't mean they're not on Obama's 'list'. So I keep telling myself. :7
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:51 PM
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11. Agreed and recommended!
Maybe I'm dreaming big time, but maybe having an African-American and a Hispanic American on the same ticket could put Texas in the Democratic column in November. That would more than offset any lost electoral votes due to racism.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:53 PM
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13. Hope not
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 04:54 PM
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14. I'm wondering if Clark is totally out of the running. I still hope it is him or Hillary.
But as long as it's not Hagel I'll deal.

Steve
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 05:01 PM
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17. No he is a traitor to the Clintons
when he saw Hillary wasn't going to win he switched sides. I have no use for anyone that has no loyalty.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 05:05 PM
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21. He didn't "switch sides." That's some tired old shit there.
He never took a side until he endorsed, and you know it. He didn't owe the Clintons jack shit. He did the job he was asked to do. THAT was what he owed them. This "traitor" crap sounds like the Clintons are freaking royalty or something.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 05:15 PM
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24. He ran for VP from the start playing both sides
then when it came apparent Obama would be the nominee he backed him. If Hillary was the nominee he would be on her side and you know it.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 05:24 PM
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27. If he was playing both sides from the start, then how can he be a traitor?
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 07:18 PM
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38. Man, I'm glad I have whoever you're responding to on ignore
Obviously not someone worth reading, much less conversing with.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 10:10 PM
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49. Oh that hurts my feelings, you can't stand anyone
that doesn't agree with you so you put them on ignore. I don't have anyone on ignore, I understand not everyone agrees with me and I respect that. Isn't that what the forum is for to discus our opinions on politics not just talk to whoever believes the same.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 07:10 PM
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36. I think the reason was the way HILLARY was running her campaign...
Edited on Wed Jul-30-08 07:11 PM by calipendence
He left her campaign when there was a lot more smearing tactics being used by her campaign (or campaign surrogates) against Obama. He even said as much. He was working with Hillary up to a point. I think he realized that staying with implicit support for her longer would get him labeled with the kind of campaign she was running, and he didn't want to get tainted by it. I know I felt that way after he left her campaign, and I'm sure many other voters felt that way. That was the difference to have him in my final three that I wanted Obama to consider (Feingold, Edwards and Richardson). And with Edwards being attacked now by the M$M more heavily, and Feingold still sorely needed in the Senate (they NEED to make him Senate Majority Leader), I think Richardson would have been my favorite from a pragmatic standpoint. He certainly feels less DLC/corporatist than the three that are supposedly the final three now. And that to me is the ultimate measurement. The least corporatist candidate will get favor. Kain's got a mild thumbs up for me, but that's just because I see both Bayh and Biden as being too much the corporatists for me to stomach.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:05 PM
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31. When exactly did that happen? I didn't think he was ever for Hillary
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 07:25 PM
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41. He's hosting two invitation-only fundraisers to help Hillary with her campaign debt.
The Clintons know better than anybody that what happens during a campaign isn't 'real'. They understand politics, even if we don't.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 09:55 PM
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48. Agreed, but not all of her supporters do
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trewsx11 Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 05:01 PM
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18. I heard Bill Richardson has a taste for the ladies
Maybe Obama's vetting team found something in his past? I wouldn't be surprised if they found something in Biden's past too.

They both seem like they have skeletons in their closet they do not want the country to find out.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 05:13 PM
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22. Wow, thanks for that fact-based insight!!!!!1111 nt
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trewsx11 Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 05:15 PM
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25. It wasn't fact-based. It was pure speculation.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 05:17 PM
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26. Right!! Just like you bashing Kaine and praising Biden in another thread!!!!! nt
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 05:04 PM
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20. He's the best of the Gov picks, imho....
Looks best on paper :toast:

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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 05:36 PM
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29. He's a lousy campaigner...total polar opposite to Obama
in terms of charisma. I live in Iowa and had a chance to see both in action prior to the Caucus, and Richardson came off as a rank amateur, given his many years of additional experience on the national scene compared with Obama.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:07 PM
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32. They say a VP should not "out shine" the Presidential candidate... no problem there
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:34 PM
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33. Lousy campaigner.
If his resume was so great, why didn't he do better in the primaries? Perhaps because he's not a very good campaigner.

He'd make a terrific Secretary of State, though...
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 06:46 PM
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35. Pretty tough competition this primary season (Great Resume)
http://www.governor.state.nm.us/governor.php



Bill Richardson is serving his second term as Governor of New Mexico. He was re-elected in 2006 with the support of 69 percent of voters,

As Chairman of the Democratic Governor's Association, Governor Richardson raised more than $28 million for gubernatorial candidates and helped elect the first Democratic majority of governors since 1994.

Bill Richardson served for fifteen years in northern New Mexico representing the 3rd Congressional District, one of the most ethnically diverse in the country. He won every election with more than 60% of the vote,


During the 2002 campaign for Governor, Bill Richardson broke a world record. He shook 13,392 hands in an 8-hour period – shattering the record that former president Theodore Roosevelt set on inauguration day in 1907.

In 1997, Richardson was nominated to be the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations

In 1998, Richardson was unanimously confirmed by the United States Senate as Secretary of Energy

In 2001, Richardson assumed the chairmanship of Freedom House, a private, non-partisan organization that promotes democracy worldwide
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 07:26 PM
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42. Wings rule. Other hockey teams drool.
As far as Richardson, I don't think it will be him. He advocated diverting Great Lakes water to the southwest.

Goodbye, Midwest. But I like the man, anyway, and hope he plays a significant role in an Obama Administration.

Nice beard, too.

How 'bout them Wings!

Wait till my Spartans take the field this fall.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 07:38 PM
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43. Obama\Richardson = Texas for 2 - 3 generations of Americans = Dems rule White House
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 09:29 PM
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45. If current demographic trends continue... then in 2-3 generations our advantage would be even larger
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