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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 11:07 AM
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McCain Camp: "Obama seems to think losing a war will help him win an election."

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/mccain_campaign_obama_dems_wan.php

McCain Campaign: Obama, Dems Want To Lose In Iraq Because It Helps Them Politically

The McCain campaign, which has said it doesn't question Obama's patriotism, is now doing something awfully similar: Claiming that Barack Obama and the Democrats are dedicated to losing the war for their own political benefit.

The new accusation was unveiled on a McCain campaign conference call moments ago, with top McCain surrogates making this charge in tandem.

Sen. Lindsey Graham said that a "turning point" was when Harry Reid declared the war "lost" over a year ago, and brought up an old quote from Chuck Schumer predicting that discontent with the war would lead to further Democratic gains. "The Democratic Party built a political strategy around us losing the war in Iraq," Graham said.

McCain adviser Randy Scheunemann joined in: "Senator Obama seems to think losing a war will help him win an election."

Scheunemann then hammered Obama for voting against a war-funding bill last year that contained money for not only Iraq but also Afghanistan. "This is Senator Obama's judgment on display," Scheunemann said. "Defund our forces in Afghanistan and Iraq, in an effort to placate the left wing of the Democratic Party."



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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 11:09 AM
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1. blah blah blah
As Obama said, how is it surrender if we're turning Iraq over to the sovereign government of....Iraq?
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 11:09 AM
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2. McCain is absolutely pathetic. Obama has this one in the bag.
The reason the poll numbers are close is because America doesn't know Obama yet.

That will change before November.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 11:15 AM
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7. Not only do they not knows Obama yet, they don't know the real McCain yet, either,
since his MANY mistakes and lies have been played down or totally ignored by the media.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 11:11 AM
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3. Obama can't 'lose' a war that was lost a long time ago.
McBush sounds desperate.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 11:47 AM
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11. wait a minute ... Bush said we won the war, back in 2003 ...
and then, in 2004, we were winning the war we already won ...

and in 2005, we were winning even more, despite all the losses ...

and in 2006, we were winning, just that it wasn't being reported ...

and in 2007, the Dems were losing the war ...

and in 2008, it's Obama trying to lose the war ...
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 11:11 AM
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4. If people are stupid enough to buy into the win/lose spin, they won't vote for Obama anyway.
There is no winning or losing the Iraq 'War'. For them to say this is an insult to thinking Americans.
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 11:13 AM
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5. blah, blah, blah is right.
All the McCain campaign has is a bunch of crap.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 11:13 AM
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6. wow, this is pretty desperate.
They have to dig up an old quote from Chuck Schumer? As opposed to a McCain advisor who quite literally said that another terrorist attack would help McCain win the election?
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 11:18 AM
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8. Yes Obama thinks John Sidney McCain III supporting a losing war will help his campaign.
So we want JSM III to keep up his warmongering rhetoric. Stay the course, JSM III.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 11:26 AM
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9. I'm sick of letting them change the goal posts on this war
First we went in to get the WMD's. Then we were there to get Hussein. Now we're in for what exactly? Cheap oil? HA! To keep a civil war from breaking out? To scare Iran? McCain wants to continue to do this for 100 years and he thinks Obama's strategy is based on losing? Really McCain? Really?

They lied to us. They lied to the soldiers who risked their lives and died to complete the first two missions. As far as I'm concerned their job is done. This is no longer a war, it's an ugly occupation that does nothing more than cost lives and money.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 11:26 AM
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10. Iraq & Afghanistan wars were lost before the first shots were fired
It's time to figure out how to stop the losses now.
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 12:56 PM
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12. Where's the outrage from the media?
Edited on Mon Jul-14-08 12:57 PM by abernste
Ooops -- I guess that is that only for attacks (even if not real) against St. McCain.
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