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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 11:50 AM Original message |
Barack Obama was right that kids need to speak another language. Especially in a global economy. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
1. YES, but not necessarily Spanish. nt |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. What's your point. Obama ended by saying kids should learn "more than one" |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Didn't say he did. There are a lot of pressures to learn Spanish when Asian languages.. |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Oh, okay. Yes, I agree. However, I think kids should learn multiple languages |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
44. Actually, he did say specifically Spanish. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Here is the full comment. Learning Spanish in Colorado is not exactly a stupid idea. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. I know. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. Isn't Spanish the 3rd most spoken language in the world, after |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
51. Perhaps, but international economics, business and diplomacy ... |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #51 |
68. Russian is a lingua franca for a vast area of Eurasia |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. Yes and no. A lot of them try to avoid using Russian, if at all possible... |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 09:13 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. I studied Russian |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 09:48 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. I can read it fairly well, but really lousy speaking it. nt |
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Bad Thoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 06:37 AM Response to Reply #51 |
85. Spanish would be more useful than French |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #15 |
67. That's actually a complicated question |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
2. I wish I would have been force or encouraged to learn another language |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
3. Moi, playa mama! |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. Me, too... |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. He continues to impress! And congrats on your retirement, YvonneCa! nt |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #27 |
48. Thank you... |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
4. Children who speak more than one language tend to have a wider vocabulary & stronger writing skills. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. And the earlier these languages are acquired, the better. nt |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Absolutely! |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #17 |
32. Double-absolutely |
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kdpeters (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 11:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
81. Which is why some parents have started trying to teach babies to communicate in sign |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
26. Yes... |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
5. Only in our American-exceptionalism arrogance do we believe |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #5 |
13. It's amazing how few Canadians speak decent French. nt |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. That is to their shame, then. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #18 |
53. Yes, it is. It always surprised me my friend in Kingston, Ont. NEVER learned French! nt |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #13 |
30. Outside of Quebec |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
23. Yes, I've often wondered why we Americans are so prideful of being "uni-lingual." |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
59. That is an interesting line of thought. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #5 |
66. Spanish is very similar to English. I would prefer that we challenge our students... |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 09:13 PM Response to Reply #66 |
76. Learning those languages is a different ball game |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
6. What horror is that you speak of!!! |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 11:56 AM Original message |
I know. I am really beginning to think the Right wants to keep people ignorant. nt |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
28. Hmmmm... |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
8. Yup, I remember in high school, French or Spanish. Pick one. |
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China_cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
9. After meeting my husband, I learned to be very ashamed |
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demokatgurrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
11. Absolutely. I think we are the only "civilized" nation |
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eppur_se_muova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
95. I agree there is too much emphasis on "fluency". Better to ... |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
14. I remember when people would speak highly about a person who |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Yep--the deliberate manipulations of the GOP to dumb us down culturally |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Remember John Kerry is fluent in French, but then had to pretend |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. "Truth, is the American... |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
54. US UN Amb. Adm Vernon Walters spoke several, William F. Buckley |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
20. Obama didn't goof... |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
21. He is correct. The world is multilingual, |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. "...we are behind the curve when we perpetuate, even celebrate our monolingual ... |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. my Moscovian friends 10 year old came to spend the summer with us, he speaks 5 languages fluently |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. As it should be in every school in the nation. n/t |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. absolutely.....I don't understand why it isn't so....it's shameful |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. At this point, it will take a long time to get there. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
62. I've lived in Moscow. They all want 'out'! |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 06:26 AM Response to Reply #62 |
84. that may be so but, the fact still remains that Russian children are taught foreign langauge s..... |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
24. 100% agree |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
33. "Instead of worrying about whether immigrants can learn English, because they will learn English..." |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. No, they should learn English. The tough love should go to everyone, |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #33 |
46. recent immigrants from Mexico, El Salvador, and Guatemala |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. They don't have to learn a new alphabet like Russians, Ukies, Koreans, etc. |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. I wasn't responding to an orthographic assertion |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #46 |
60. That is indeed interesting. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. I, too, love hearing different languages in my apt. complex, etc. but |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. One language to help tie us together, I like the sentiment behind that idea. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 08:45 PM Response to Reply #64 |
73. Travalliez for me mon ami! |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 11:37 PM Response to Reply #73 |
83. Oui, moi aussi! |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #83 |
87. Mine's suffered also... |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Russian. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Well, the irony was that folks that majored in Russian in college... |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 11:57 AM Response to Reply #90 |
92. You're a lot more accomplished than I am. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. I've been the WORST language student in more classes than you have! |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. LOL! |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
35. One reason the US is so monolingual... |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 12:37 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Yep. That is the challenge. However, we have met other challenges |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #35 |
56. If MD, DC and VA all spoke different languages, so would we all. nt |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
39. hey beachmom |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. The OP is about children learning languages, not adults...n/t |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. sorry, I thought all children became adults n/t |
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demokatgurrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. Ha! There's where you're wrong. nt |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #50 |
65. Well, they mostly get older... |
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blonndee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #42 |
72. But how does that apply to this poster's "dilemma"? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #39 |
70. How are you able to do that? |
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TayTay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #39 |
71. All of them. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
41. Among other things, this is why pursuing these types is always fruitless |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
43. You could think by now, people on DU would not think this is controversial? |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
45. I wish I was taught a second language. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
63. Absolutely. Learning the language of another culture does far more than teach language. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #63 |
74. When travelling, you are purely a tourist if you don't speak or understand some of the... |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
69. It makes my head hurt that this statement is even considered controversial at all. |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #69 |
80. I absolutely agree. n/t |
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PADemD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
78. Almost 40 years ago... |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
82. Ignorance is the lifeblood of the GOP. |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
86. Obama's daughters are fluent in Spanish, then? |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
88. like it |
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jakem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
91. My son is in a Chinese immersion elementary school. it is amazing. |
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