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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 04:17 PM
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McCain's Growing Arizona Problem (Update III) McCain campaign now calls AZ "Battleground State"

Review of the Facts about John McCain and his Growing problem in Arizona



I. McCain has a poor showing in the Arizona Primary



Although largely ignored by the Media McCain struggled in the Arizona Primary where he was the only one of the main candidates not achieve 50% in his home state and had the lowest plurality over the second place candidate, despite the fact that the Democratic Primaries had a much more contentious primary battle.

Obama won Illinois with 65%

Clinton won New York with 57%

McCain won Arizona with only 47%

Obama's advantage over Clinton was 32% in Illinois and Clinton had a 17% advantage over Obama in New York, while McCain managed to beat Romney by only 13 points in his home state.



II. Arizona Financial Contributors



http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2008/M6/C00430470/A_STATE_C00430470.html
Arizona has contributed a total of $11 million to presidential candidates. McCain has been able to get only 39% of that number despite the fact that 1) He is constantly returning there for fund raisers, some with the sitting President 2) His in-laws are major fat cats there with tremendous local connections. Obama has received 55% of the money raised in Illinois despite the fact that other Democrats did very well there including Senator Clinton who was born there. As a comparison 38% of the Arizona Republican money went to other candidates besides McCain.

In May, the only month where they were running head to head McCain raised $208k in Arizona while Obama was right behind at $ 191k.


III. Polling in Arizona McCain's lead continues to slide from over 20 points to 9





The last 4 polls all show him at less than 51% of the vote



ASU April 24th McCain 47% Obama 38% http://www.azpbs.org/horizon/poll/2008/4-29-08.htm

BRC May 12th McCain 50% Obama 39% http://www.pollster.com/08-AZ-Pres-GE-MvO.php

ASU June 28th McCain 38% Obama 28% http://www.azpbs.org/horizon/poll/2008/6-24-08.htm

RAS June 25th McCain 49% Obama 40% Barr 6% http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/state_toplines/arizona/arizona_toplines_june_25_2008


The most interesting point in in the sub questions for the latest Rasmussen Poll was that when asked questions about how enthusiastic they were for McCain, his supporters were rather tepid.

For example for 'favorability' only 21% of Arizonans rate McCain 'Very Favorable' while 28% ranked Obama 'Very Favorable'.

Its hard to compare polling in Illinois because there haven't been any recent ones but polls taken during the primary showed Obama with a 30 point lead.



IV. McCain's Campaign Admits that Arizona is not a safe seat and is going to be contested



The media is starting to catch on:http://washingtonindependent.com/view/mccain-campaign

McCain Calls Arizona a Swing State





PHOENIX--Sen. John McCain’s big struggle to energize a suspicious conservative Republican base and attract crucial independent voters is a national fight that encompasses his home state of Arizona. Despite representing the state in Congress for 26 years, McCain is now confronting a resurgent state Democratic Party and a burgeoning number of unpredictable independent voters.

While Arizona Republicans are bogged down with nasty infighting and a slumping number of registered voters, Arizona Democrats are gaining voters daily. Powered by Sen. Barack Obama’s voter registration drive, Democratic voter registration is up 2.8 percent in the last year and Democrats are poised to gain control of a majority of the state’s House congressional delegation for the first time in decades. The biggest shift in the Arizona political landscape has been in the number of voters registering as independents -- up 7.6 percent in the last year. Arizona is now essentially a tri-party state -- Republicans make up 38 percent of registered voters; Democrats, 34 percent, and independents, 27 percent. Securing a plurality of independents will be crucial to the presidential race here and Obama has the early edge. Without the enthusiastic support of rank-and-file Republicans, McCain could face a desert dogfight that could wind up costing him the White House in a close contest.

In a clear signal that Arizona’s 10 electoral votes are up for grabs, the McCain campaign has added Arizona to its list of 24 “battleground states” with their 242 electoral votes.In a “strategy briefing” video posted Saturday on the McCain campaign website, Rick Davis, the campaign manager, did not include Arizona as one of the 17 “historically Republican states” -- though Arizona has voted Republican in every presidential election but one since 1952.


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The Arizona GOP’s open rebellion against McCain is rooted in the wealthy neighborhoods of Legislative District 11 -- which includes McCain’s home precinct. The district's GOP chairman, Rob Haney, has led a strident attack on McCain over immigration, as well as his support of campaign finance reform and original refusal to back Bush’s tax cuts. In 2005, Haney helped pass a resolution censuring McCain for abandoning conservative principles in both District 11 and the Maricopa County GOP.

The seriousness of McCain’s effort is demonstrated by the list of candidates vying for what are normally considered low-level party positions. There are two former Arizona governors -- J. Fife Symington III and Jane Hull – as well as some of the state’s wealthiest and most powerful business leaders.Silencing McCain’s ideological critics in Arizona, Haney said, will make it easier for McCain to appeal to independents and disaffected Democrats.



Obvious McCain is still a favorite in his home state, but if he falls further in the polls there then he would have to spend time and money in Arizona to make sure that it does not become even closer, an embarassment that even the MSM would have to cover.



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dempartisan23 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 04:28 PM
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1. we must redouble our efforts
we must give a maximum effort in defeating mcstink.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 07:14 PM
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14. Rec'd..yes we can
do that!
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 04:36 PM
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2. Is that a Purple Heart the Senator is wearing in that photo?
Will someone remind me of why Kerry was mocked for his Purple Heart?


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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 06:57 PM
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11. I wonder if that woman knows she is famous on Teh Tubes of Teh Internets?
Gawd, every time I see that ugly mug of hers, I just want to sock her in the band-aid.
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seasat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 04:38 PM
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3. I hope the Obama campaign runs ads in Arizona
It'd really piss McCain off. Obama could then mention it during McCain's poll numbers in his home state in their first debate to see if McCain will blow a fuse on national TV.

I also noticed that, according to the last poll in each state, Obama has 146 electoral votes in states where he polls 20% or greater. McCain just has Utah with five electoral votes where he dropped to 19% in the last poll.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 07:13 PM
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13. I'm sure they will..it would
be awesome if Obama took Arizona!
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 06:18 PM
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4. Payback for Tennessee, and it would be a cherry on top of a win for Obama :)
Barr could make it close enough for Obama to win with 48% or 49% of the vote in Arizona this year.

K/R, great analysis, grantcart!
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 06:22 PM
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5. Obama has no chance in AZ.
He hasn't even broken 40% support according to the polls in the OP.

McCain also has much higher favorables in AZ than Obama, per Rasmussen.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 06:35 PM
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7. The point is to make McCain spend money in Arizona n/t
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 06:46 PM
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8. He's simply not going to if he's reading the numbers I'm reading.
Furthermore, Obama doesn't have a money advantage.

At month's end McCain had as much cash on hand as Obama, raised roughly the same amount of money as Obama, plus had the RNC at his disposal, which has far outraised the DNC so far by 40+ million.

McCain also will have his infusion of public financing money. Obama doesn't have that and it's unclear that he will be able to make raise over 84 million in that period.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 06:50 PM
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9. He's not reading the numbers you're reading
Did you see Point IV. in grantcart's post?

IV. McCain's Campaign Admits that Arizona is not a safe seat and is going to be contested

The media is starting to catch on:http://washingtonindependent.com/view/mccain-campaign

McCain Calls Arizona a Swing State

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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 07:29 PM
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17. If I were McCain I would do that too.
to entice Obama to waste his money and try to win a state where his favorables are below 50% and he has never polled above 40%. Meawhile McCain's favorables in AZ are over 60% I believe.

Yeah if I were McCain I'd be like "Bring it on! AZ is a tossup!" LOL
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 07:42 PM
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18. Now there you have a point. But it could very well backfire in his face
If we spend some money there and the race gets closer, McCain will have to spend money there. That's a great 50-state strategy for ya, forcing McCain to defend everything. If someone dares Obama to knock the battery off his shoulder, I believe Obama will do it, even as a "fuck you."

Also, Obama is leading McCain in very-favorables 28% to 21% in Arizona, according to that Rasmussen poll.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 08:04 PM
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19. That's not surprising.
Edited on Wed Jul-02-08 08:05 PM by woolldog
It is pretty much the case everywhere that Obama has high "very favorables" and high "very unfavorables" relative to McCain. The electorate is much more polarized in their opinion of Obama than of McCain.

I believe Obama's very favorables are much higher than McCain's in West Virginia. But then again, his very unfavorables are also extremely high. And the high very favorables doesn't mean he's going to win WV.

This is both good and bad. It's good in the case of a state like CA where he has kind of a floor of support. But it's bad in some states like MO and NC because it indicates something of a ceiling for support. People at either end of the "very favorable" and "very unfavorable" extreme are not likely to change their mind. And a polarized electorate means the picture shouldn't change much.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 10:54 PM
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22. Breaking: McCain is buying ad time in Virginia
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jerryster Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 07:14 PM
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15. I heard just today that Obama has more cash...
than McCain does. A lot more. Now, whether it would be wise to spend it in AZ is another matter. Since I'm in the camp that believes AZ is McCain's it makes more sense to me to spend that money in states McCain actually has to worry about. These include NM, CO, VA, NC, MI, OH, PA and perhaps even FL.

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 06:52 PM
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10. He spent a surprising amount here in the primaries. Our state has changed a lot in the last decade
and McCain has lost a lot of rim support.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 07:01 PM
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12. Yes, and many in Arizona haven't seen his name on a ballot before the primaries
With 14% population growth between 2003 and 2007, one in every seven voters are new voters in Arizona. I know quite a few former Midwesterners (Democratic voters all) who've moved to Arizona in the last several years.

:hi:
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 09:20 PM
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21. McCain isn't liked in AZ.
He's kept his seat because of a lack of competition, not because he outdid them. And no one remembers the Keating 5 more than an Arizonan. Those that don't remember them are new here and have no allegiance to McCain. Either way, he loses. I don't know if AZ can go to Obama and it will be tough to do, but it won't be impossible.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 06:28 PM
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6. You got to love seeing this stuff.
Batter the guy in every damn state we can, and make him spend and spend where he normally shouldn't have to.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-03-08 12:30 AM
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24. But the more that we can draw attention to problems in AZ the better it is

It is amplified if the guy has problems in his own state.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 07:16 PM
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16. Let's make sure that he has to spend money to win his homestate.
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RNdaSilva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 08:27 PM
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20. I have friends in Arizona,
teachers and assorted educator types, that are supporting Obama.

It will be much closer in Arizona than say...Illinois?

My states, California, Washington and Hawaii are definitely in Obama's corner as is Oregon. The Pacific electorate is...





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chitty Donating Member (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 10:58 PM
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23. Well I live in the Phoenix area
and drive 25 miles each way to and from work, 8 AM & 5 PM, and have yet to see a McCain bumpersticker.

It's certainly not scientific, but where is his support?

I see Obama stickers everyday.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-03-08 12:30 AM
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25. I wonder if Obama is doing much voter registration in AZ around the universities.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-03-08 12:35 AM
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26. People in Az are really, really pissed at McCain for not showing up to work in over a year.
A week doesn't go by without it being mentioned in the editorial page.


Obama has had an office opened up by ASU for quite awhile.

Don't rule it out. Az is more blue than people realize - In Congress, our reps are 50/50.
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