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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 04:43 AM
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Why Obama Won
Barack Obama has won the race for the Democratic nomination for president against Hillary Clinton on the issues. Sort of.

This is not what the pundits will tell you, who would rather focus upon the most superficial and trivial aspects of the two final candidates’ style, personality, associates, personal history, and campaign organization and strategy, not to mention race and gender.

This is not what many on the left will say either, in recognition of how little differences there were between the two candidates’ stated positions on most policies.

Still, Obama was able to defeat the once-formidable Hillary Clinton because he was perceived to be the better candidate among the increasingly progressive base of the Democratic Party.

Many progressive supporters of Clinton pointed out how many on the left tended to criticize their candidate incessantly for her militaristic and pro-corporate policies while making excuses for similar positions taken by Obama. Obama’s public positions on issues which ran counter to most progressive voters were often rationalized as being necessary in order for him to be elected or as part of the unfortunate reality of corporate power in the American political system, while Clinton’s similar positions were attacked as a reflection of her real agenda.

To the extent that this was true, a major reason that the left may have cut Obama more slack than it did Clinton is that many progressives gave the Clintons just that kind of benefit of the doubt back in 1992. The line at that time was that “Bill Clinton has to say those things in order to get elected, but once in office, his policies will be far more progressive than his campaign rhetoric, which is aimed at winning votes from the center.” The reality, however, was that the policies emanating from the Clinton White House over the next eight years were not to the left but actually to the right of positions he touted during the campaign. Though seven and a half years of President George W. Bush makes the Clinton Era look pretty good by comparison, the reality was that the Clintons presided over the most conservative Democratic administration of the twentieth century. As a result, there was an assumption among many party progressives that a second Clinton White House would be more of the same.


Obama, by contrast, has not yet had the opportunity to disappoint. It certainly doesn’t mean that he won’t. In fact, he probably will. Yet it appears that most Democrats in the progressive wing of the party took the attitude that the Clintons had their chance and blew it, so let’s give the nomination to the new guy who worked as a community organizer, who has a more grass roots focus, whose progressive policy positions have been more longstanding and consistent, and who has relied more on small donations and less on corporate contributors.

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The best hope for a progressive administration under a President Obama, then, may be in the fact that the Illinois senator’s base is so much more progressive than he is. Just as any number of Republican politicians — who personally may not have much affinity with the Christian right’s obsession with abortion and homosexuality — have felt obliged nevertheless to play to their base with policies and appointments which cater to their interests, Obama may feel similarly obliged in regard to the Democratic left. By contrast, Clinton was more the candidate of the party establishment, which gave rise to the assumption that her appointments and policies would have more reflected those interests. Though this distinction was not absolute — there are plenty of establishment figures supporting Obama and plenty of grass roots feminists and other progressives who supported Clinton — there is little question to whom Obama would owe his election.

More: http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/06/04/9451/
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:22 AM
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1. He has an aura of Positiveness...minimum negative...
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:05 PM
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6. One thing about this election that differs from most elections over the past 30 years
is that a sizable number of folks actually want to vote FOR their candidate, rather than against the Republican.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 04:03 PM
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7. Obama is initiating a Shift from the prevailing Neg Tone to one of a Positive Polarity
He has a LOCK on Positive...the GOP cannot go there...they being the Neg Party of ME-ism
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 04:10 PM
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8. It ain't mornin' in America anymore for the far right anymore
that's for sure.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 04:17 PM
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9. They had their Ops and blew it...revealed their selfinterest and greed among other things
all negative.....fuck um all....
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:32 AM
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2. Hmmmm. I would say he began to disappoint with his AIPAC speech.
I want a safe, secure, and free Israel as much as anyone. But I want a fair, humane, and democratic Israel more. There is a side to the suffering that is going on in the ME that Americans rarely get to hear or see fully. And we too easily forget the Rachel Corries while we remember three soldiers held captive. True friends don't chastise friends and point out weaknesses and problems. The most hurtful thing to Israel right now is to infer green lights and no consequences for wrongful acts. That's what both Obama and Hillary did at AIPAC. I agree with Jimmy Carter on this ME issue...and in fact, so do many Jews who silently wish to rid their country of the Olmerts as we wish to rid our government of the Bushes.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 02:49 PM
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3. I guess I'm one of those who gives him a pass on that
Since he'll undoubtedly be attacked as weak on his middle east policies, and I suspect that if elected, he'll end up a lot more like Bill Clinton- or even Jimmy Carter than a hawk like McCain or Lieberman.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 02:54 PM
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4. My support for Obama is based on his being the unClinton.
My expectations of his presidency are low as far as turning the country substantially to the left.

But...it is possible that he has opened the door to the left and will be carried by it.

Something inconceivable under another Clinton regime.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:03 PM
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5. That's basically what professor Zune was saying.
Edited on Sat Jun-07-08 03:03 PM by depakid
Having the Clintons back in the whitehouse and expecting substantially different policies isn't very rational- and there's a chance that despite his record and his corporate money, Obama might actually be inclined to adopt progressive positions once elected.

After all, they've been his ground troops-
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 04:25 PM
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10. "Obama, by contrast, has not yet had the opportunity to disappoint."
Edited on Sat Jun-07-08 04:29 PM by TahitiNut
As a Kucinich (then Edwards) supporter, this is precisely my take on it. I have hopes he'll govern progressively ... and less ruled by the corporate lobby. There are some indications that he may do so. That he's brilliant is beyond question, imho. That he takes an affirmative and non-divisive approach seems obvious. His campaign was one of the most diligently positive in my memory. It was also the best managed. I have reservations ... and a great deal of hope. We've already seen how bad it can be (and worse) ... so let's make sure we LOBBY, in lieu of the corporate predators.

Too much of our attention is sucked up by the visceral 'social' issues ... where the corporate/econoomic issues and the enormous excesses of wealth are far more important when it comes to the Presidency. That's the greater REAL threat. Read Gore's "The Assault on Reason" and it's spelled out VERY clearly.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 05:03 PM
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11. For some reason she decided to run to the right of Obama. nt
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