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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:40 PM
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The reason that Hillary should not be Vice President is because
Edited on Thu Jun-05-08 09:41 PM by still_one
Barrack and Hillary are not a good synergy

You want people who will work well together

This is not a jab at either candidate, but just my opinion on the subject

Just listening to the two different speechs at AIPAC, show that they are not on the same page



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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:41 PM
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1. They are friends and work well together - and she brings the groups he needs
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:46 PM
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4. she has very high negatives and adds nothing positive to his campaign
on top of which trying to force her way PUBLICLY onto the ticket was just dumb. He can't take her NOW or he would appear cowed and weak.

plus her vocal support of McSame over Obama REPEAREDLY during the campaign was just plain bad form
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:46 PM
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5. agreed
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:47 PM
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7. I disagree on both points. In my view this election demonstrated that
In addition, what will Senator Clinton bring to the table?

It is a double edged sword. There were many people who voted against the Senator, NOT because of gender, but because they don't care for the Clintons

As much as she may bring to the table, I think she takes away also, especially among independents

If those who will only vote for Obama ONLY if Senator Clinton is on the ticket, that is not a good enough reason in my view, and it isn't a sound reason for those supporters either. If people want to vote against their own interests because of gender or race, then they will get what they deserve



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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:48 PM
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9. I agree. It's not worth it and doesn't work with what the campaign is about.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:41 PM
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2. There's one simple reason: she's not qualified to be president.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:42 PM
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3. I wanted to bring this discussion above that. I don't believe they work well together /nt
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:47 PM
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8. Above what? That's a damn important consideration.
She has not shown that she's capable of doing the job. Period.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:54 PM
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16. I throw down with jgraz on this one - she doesn't have IT. And she can't pass the vetting.
Period.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:56 PM
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18. OK. No question about it, the way she ran her campaign was awful
Edited on Thu Jun-05-08 09:57 PM by still_one
and the way she ended it was even worse

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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:59 PM
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20. But I thought that all of her baggage had been rummaged through?
:rofl:
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WillyToad Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:47 PM
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6. Grow up, get over it ...
Stop wallowing in negativity.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:49 PM
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10. What the hell are you talking about. YOU GROW UP. This wasn't personal
like YOU are looking at it

I don't think they work well together period

and your inane statement as though that is some insult or slam shows exactly where you are coming from

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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:51 PM
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12. Don't pay attention to these Obama haters
They're just pissed because Hillary got smacked down. :rofl:
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:53 PM
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15. My gut tells me Barrack will not choose her for a lot of reasons
but it should be obvious to both sides that it isn't a good match

If Clinton won, it would not have been a good idea for her to choose Obama also


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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:58 PM
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19. Here are my thoughts
a link to a journal entry I wrote about V.P. picking analysis:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6155301&mesg_id=6155370

Obama has publicly stated that he heavily favors philosophy #3, picking a V.P. to help him govern and believes in having a V.P. that he has a good rapport with. It sounds like Sebelius and Richardson will be at the top of his list.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 11:40 PM
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27. Good analysis. /nt
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WillyToad Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:10 PM
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22. Show me a single post where I am for Hillary.....
You had better dig deep, because there arent any.

Throw away your binky, it is time to grow up now...
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:13 PM
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23. Sorry that your hitjob on Obama fell flat. Please try harder next time.
:rofl:
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WillyToad Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:16 PM
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24. I made no mention of Obama...
And you know it.

Might I suggest a good psychiatrist?
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:30 PM
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25. Why are you trying to spoil other people's threads?
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WillyToad Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:43 PM
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26. Anger is spoiling the party...
It is time to exercise the anger out of the party...

It is time to ween ourselves from the anger binky....



It is time to end the hate...
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WillyToad Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:07 PM
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21. Yes it was personal...
it is more of the same. Let go of it....it is time to move on.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:49 PM
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11. She's a me-first person, not a true team player
V.P. must obey the President first and foremost, and that is a job not meant for Hillary.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:51 PM
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13. That is a valid reason I believe also. They both ran very different campaigns
and I think it would not serve the country or either of them well


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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:52 PM
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14. I think that a Clinton-Obama ticket would have been doable
but not vice versa.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:55 PM
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17. Interesting point, and I think I know where you are coming from /nt
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