Gallup 5/25: Obama's lead over Clinton shrinks to 5% among Dems; GE: Clinton>McCain, McCain>Obama

[highplainsdem]

http://www.gallup.com/poll/107488/Gallup-Daily-Clinton-Maintains-Lead-Over-McCain.aspx

Gallup had shown Obama leading Clinton by 16% among Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters, just a week ago. Now it's down to 5%.

A few days ago as Obama's lead over Clinton among Dems started to shrink, Gallup wondered if it was a statistical fluke or a trend. Now it seems to be a trend.

Clinton's average 5% lead over McCain in the GE seems to be a trend as well, with Obama doing much worse against McCain in Gallup's polling of registered voters.

[Hope And Change]

1. Yawn.

[GoesTo11]

46. You will have told us so.

I get the sense that you are hoping Obama loses so you can tell us you told us so.

Unfortunately for Hillary, the people who support Obama support him in part because they think he can win. They have seen what a dynamic campaigner he is, how he always improves his standing in the polls in the months before the election while Hillary fritters her lead away. Jeez, was it last December that Hillary was leading Obama by 25?

So, you look at today's polls and believe Hillary is better. Other people look at today's polls and at the relative campaigning abilities of the candidates, and believe that Obama is more likely to win. You can argue whether this is right, but you can't just look at a poll that shows HRC doing better than Obama compared to McCain and immediately expect everyone to think she'll win.

[highplainsdem]

47. The people who support Hillary also support her because they think she could win the GE.

Please understand/accept that.

And no, I don't expect everyone to think Clinton would win in the GE.

And I don't hope Obama will lose. I'm afraid he might. I still think we need a unity ticket to win, though at this point that doesn't seem possible. I'm afraid we'll lose without it.

I posted about this poll because of the disparity between how Dems viewed Obama's recent exchanges with McCain -- we all cheered and thought Obama had won those -- and how it impacted all registered voters. There doesn't seem to have been any bump for Obama in those GE results. Meanwhile, Clinton is still polling pretty steadily at 4-5% above McCain, despite all the media attacks on her.

I also posted it because it shows the party is still pretty evenly divided between Obama supporters and Clinton supporters. And that means unity will be necessary to win in November.

And I'm not sure how to achieve that unity without having Clinton on the ticket.

I don't know what we Dems are going to do. I don't think Clinton can win the nomination, but I also don't think Obama can choose anyone other than Clinton as VP who will be acceptable to most of her supporters.

[JoFerret]

51. All this thread kicking

making you tired?

[NJSecularist]

Obama's support is tanking.

He is unelectable.

We will lose Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida with him as the nominee.

[casus belli]

7. Yawn.

[NJSecularist]

12. It will not be a yawning matter when we lose our 3rd straight election. n/t

[Hope And Change]

14. Yawn.

[cliffordu]

19. Your migration to another website will make me happy, though...

[Teaser]

41. *yawns*

.

[Chulanowa]

56. And Clinton will give us a red map except for Minnesota

And then the DNC will declare that the party only needs to fundraise in Minnesota becuase it's a "sure thing"

[w4rma]

57. Hillary is not going to be the nominee, no matter what anyone does at this point. (nt)

[Phx_Dem]

36. The only thing

tanking is Hillary's career and reputation. Last week it was circling the drain. Now it's in the sewer.

[TheWraith]

38. In other news, Titanic officers optimistic--say hold flooding soon to be reversed.

Keep shilling.

[JackORoses]

39. What do you mean 'we'? Oh, I see. 'We' as in you Repukes.

I agree.
Obama will crush McCain.

[Drunken Irishman]

44. You want Obama to lose, so "we" is wrong here, buddy.

[MJJP21]

53. Be serious

You need to give it a rest. Hillary is done kaput etc. The dems won't lose Pa because of Barack. There is a reason republicans want to face Hillary instead of Barack. The republicans are scared to death of Barack. First off Hillary only beat Barack by 9+% in PA. Barack will still get all those who voted for him and half if not more of those who voted for Hillary. Did you really expect Hillary to woo the republicans to her side? All the evidence points to republicans voting for Obama rather than the other way around. Ohio will yield the same scenario. Don't be fooled by Hillarys claim she is so popular in FLorida because of that primary. Barack hadn't campaigned there at the time and was an unknown. He is there campaigning now for the GE and is speaking to record crowds especially in the Cuban community which will carry the day come the election.

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[NJSecularist]

4. That's what happens when you nominate a no experience, no accomplishments junior senator. n/t

[Swamp Rat]

11. Now you've got fleas.

:D

[jenmito]

24. Funny how you supposedly supported that "no experience, no accomplishment junior senator."

Or DID you?! :eyes:

[Swamp Rat]

29. Yes, but he switched his support about a week or so ago.

Right? I find that fascinating. :D

[jenmito]

33. It was right after PA's primary. The night before, he said if Obama loses by 10 points or more we

have to think about supporting him due to possible lack of electability. Well, he lost by 9.2 points but that was apparently enough to give him the excuse to put up his Hillary avatar and calling us Obama supporters "Obamabots." :eyes:

[Heather MC]

35. All of Hillary's experience has not helped her worth a damn in this campaign process

Is this the same brillant "35 years of experience" we could expect to see if she had shot in Hell of getting to the WH?

Perhaps she has spent the last 35 years learning what not to do, in that case you are right
SHE DOES HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE
:rofl:

[Citizen Kang]

37. I can only assume you are talking about Hillary

The junior senator from New York, with no accomplishments other than voting to send our troops off to die for a lie, who claims being the First Lady gave her the experience to be President....

[MJJP21]

54. Experience

Whenever that arguement comes up about experience all I do is ask them to look around. This is what we have with experience. Do you want more of the same?

[Swamp Rat]

10. Sure you are.

Welcome to DU :hi:

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[GarbagemanLB]

17. wow. FreeRepublic is that way ----->

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[Swamp Rat]

18. Whatever you say.

:D

[populistdriven]

31. LOL! Nice Photo of the Freeper in its natural environment!

[indimuse]

59. alright SR...

eeewwww.... this one makes ya :puke:

[high density]

20. Do you know how to use your "Geniusbrain?"

All signs point to no.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFknKVjuyNk 100 years in Iraq... "That's fine with me!" - John McCain

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[Caesarcornelius]

34. Frank Rich disagrees with you

Frank Rich, an Obama favorite, disagrees with you:

REALLY, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton should be ashamed of themselves for libeling John McCain. As a growing chorus reiterates, their refrains that Mr. McCain is “willing to send our troops into another 100 years of war in Iraq” (as Mr. Obama said) or “willing to keep this war going for 100 years” (per Mrs. Clinton) are flat-out wrong.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/06/opinion/06rich.html

[SoonerPride]

40. Welcome to DU. Who did you used to be before you got tombstoned?

I wanna know.

[dchill]

45. Whoops!

Too late.

[swishyfeet]

16. That's not a fact, but thanks for the concern.

[Teaser]

42. Sweet Jesus Christ! It's FUCKING NOISE.

2 days ago he was beating McCain in Gallup. Today he's not. These things bounce up and down.

[Kittycat]

3. Oh well. She'll never catch up. it's over in 9 days.

[tokenlib]

5. Give it three days and a new trend will emerge....n/t

[JVS]

6. I suspect her numbers will fall soon

[azmouse]

8. Like it even matters at this point.

:eyes:

[Dinger]

9. Interesting

Some polls here have Hillary doing better than Obama (Gallup), and some don't (Zogby).
http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08gen.htm

Not sure what it all means. Don't pretend to.

[high density]

15. Must've counted more of those Clinton friendly "leaners"

They're leaning enough to prop up Clinton, then it's off to McCain like a bullet train.

[JimGinPA]

21. While Obama Wins Delegates, Hillary Supporters Hope She Wins Polls

[VotesForWomen]

49. how many 'delegates' will win O the GE? oh yeah, they don't make a rat's ass worth of difference in

the GE.

[my3boyz]

22. Hilly should enjoy her 5% lead in a poll because she will never make it to the GE. nt

[SoonerPride]

23. Obama is our nominee. Hillary Clinton is no longer an option.

Period.

[VotesForWomen]

50. you keep saying that if it makes you feel better. nt

[cliffordu]

25. Blah de blah de blah blah blah. We got it, on to the next, please.

[cbc5g]

26. Clinton has name recognition-- Obama isnt the nominee yet--Clinton still pretending to be in race

YAWN!

[MadBadger]

27. Bad weekend to poll for Obama. McCain and Hillary attract the older voters vs. Obama

They are more likely to not be travelling this holiday season.

[MJJP21]

55. Gallup

Polls are all over the map again. I don't trust Gallup one bit despite his popularity. If my memory is accurate Gallup is a "born again evangelical" and a conservative at heart. We don't know what or how he may have phrased the questions being asked to the respondents. There is still hay to be made by making it appear Hillary has a chance or should be allowed to carry on. I suspect Gallup is still trying to carry the pail for the republicans.

[MadBadger]

30. Is anybody attacking Hillary?

When her name is brought in the news by McCain, every single day, then maybe her numbers wouldnt be so hot.

[Radical Activist]

43. Clinton is destroying the party.

This is the time when he should be consolidating the base. Now he'll have to start that later, and start wooing independents later after that. Hillary should be run out of the party after this.

[VotesForWomen]

48. who cares about the GE?? the important thing is for O to beat the Bitch!! not.

[eridani]

52. Grantcart and phrigindumass NEVER post the results of single polls

They always have graphical data visually displaying the results of hundreds of polls over periods of months to a year. Why do you suppose Clinton supporters never post data like that?

[autorank]

58. Composite - Pollster.Com: Obama 46%- McCain 44% | Obama 52%-Clinton42%

http://www.pollster.com/08-US-Pres-GE-MvO.php

Clinton leads McCain by about 2% also.

Gallup looks like the exception.

Obama over Clinton 52% to 42% in composite poll
http://www.pollster.com/08-US-Dem-Pres-Primary.php