Congrats Du, We have Surely Now Become A Laughing Stock to Rove and Cohorts...

[AuntPatsy]

How easily so many are led into the abyss of irrational hate filled threats and insults and toward what was once see as friends of a sort and comrades in arms.

We have been easily disbanded, divided and brought to our knees with dishonest intentions and divided we will surely fall...I just hope those that were so easily swayed will except the blame for whom's shoulders this blame will rightly fall when they win once again.

And before I am accused of being a Hillbot or an apologist or whatever idiotic name that is the call to arms of the day that people will shout know that my choice is and always has been my fav from the great state of Delaware..I still believe he has the most experience at this point in time to free us from the mess we have been led into, knowledge and experience should never be ignored for pretty....

What really bothers me the most is the irrational hate filled posts, God, so many of them that they leave one with a foul taste of defeat in that justice will never prevail, it reeks and it echo's of Du's counterpart, congrats, we can no longer claim to be the better person.

And it will NOT be Sen Hillary's fault, NOR Sen Obama's fault, Not the Media's fault Nor even Rove and his Cohorts fault because Du has been a knowledgeable place to ferret out truth for quite some time and has had no need of the lying and enabling media outlets.

But it will be the fault of we the people who once again failed to realize just how strong we were as "one" and how easily we were brought down to simpering foolish childlike nobody's and proved them all correct in that we as a party cannot keep our focus long enough on what is truly important in order to win what is no doubt a very real war that has been raging inside our very political borders for quite some time for complete dominance by the insane power hungry greedy reptilian bastards who claim personal religious beliefs have given them the right to rule unopposed. ......

Allow fear and rage to control your reasoning and you will become lost every time.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

1. Riiiiight.

And the front page headlines across the country and around the world are all irrational too.

[AuntPatsy]

13. Actually Bornagan they are, because they are meant to instill fear and panic....and from

those two things irrational behavior has a definite chance to manifest itself inside the human mind.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

16. That's sure one big conspiracy theory you've got there.

Who needs Occam's Razor when you've got conspiracy theories?

[AuntPatsy]

38. common sense..........I enjoyed your response..it made me smile...

:hi:

[roguevalley]

55. everyone who took it as she said it, thousands and zillions of people,

the papers, etc. they are all wrong. Nice. :+

[AuntPatsy]

73. Hmmm, considering the last eight years of thousands of zillions

of reports from our unbiased media outlets, yeah I can safely believe them wrong and to be coming up with it all from an agenda passed down from the boss......rules or rules after all, obey or be fired.

[msallied]

130. Stick your head in the sand. Sometimes the outrage is unwarranted and sometimes it is.

And this is the latter.

[Tarheel_Dem]

32. Instead of lecturing us, shouldn't you be emailing Hillary? She made a

stupid remark, that was totally uncalled for, and you're lecturing us? Fortunately, Obama won't make hay of this, because he's not that kind of politician, but people like you should be contacting Hillary's campaign to tell her to knock it off.

[AuntPatsy]

42. Why should I email her? She obviously has people on this board and others

who alerted her to the outrage which I have no doubt ensured her apology today was broadcast...I am not trying to lecture anyone seriously, I would never believe myself to be that above many people here on Du considering my lack of real knowledge when it comes to politics but I do have an opinion which I felt needed to be expressed, you can read it or ignore it, makes not matter to me really but I just felt the need....

And I seriously don't believe Sen Hillary would take my direction when it comes to what career paths she should choose regarding her campaign techniques, she and all those like her have paid shrills to do that, I wish the leaders of this country would listen to the people more and their shadows less though for what it is worth.

[LaurenG]

2. whatever and no thank you anut patsy I'm not buying what you're selling. Game over. nt

[AuntPatsy]

17. I am not selling a thing, I have no need for extra cash, the tax credits really

have ensured my family and I do rather well. Just trying to get people to face reality is all that I am guilty of.

[AllentownJake]

3. Yeah

That post just went out the window after today's comments.

[AuntPatsy]

19. ?

[AllentownJake]

50. She insinuated

The man I spent two months working for might get shot.

[AuntPatsy]

59. But you see, that is your interpretation of her comments, I don't believe

that was her intent, do you have any idea who many times that Sen Clinton has been threatened?

[AllentownJake]

62. Has Obama

Ever talked about staying in the race because anything can happen than talked about RFK?

[AuntPatsy]

64. I have no idea, I really can't say but I will attempt to find out if that's fair to you?

[AllentownJake]

67. You have to understand

We are less afraid of losing than something happening to him like what happened to Barack. That is where the outrage is from.

[AuntPatsy]

70. Your fear is noted and to be honest I think the possibility is there..

I have heard and read some pretty nasty comments concerning Sen Obama, makes your skin crawl to know that evil exists without reason....

It's obvious that he as well as the Clinton's have already received such threats, there are many crazy individuals out there in this country and I can get into a whole nother issue regarding our country's inability to address the rising criminal like honest to God mental cases out there that are largely ignored simply because this country does not wish to waste money taking care of them, I am getting of track...

It's nothing new, death threats toward a standing president, if not the secret service would not be needed wouldn't you think? and in some ways isn't it better to be aware of danger than to find yourself not taking to the proper steps to ensure your safety?

I think the point is you believe her comment could trigger a mentally challenged criminal to think it would be fun to do just that, but my point is that those assassinated have been talked about often, shows made about those horrific events all too often and I firmly believe that if someone is thinking of doing that they already have thought it especially this late in the game.

Like it or not, and I have argued this til I am blue in the face but racism is still alive and thriving though some wish it to remain nothing more than America's dirty little secret. Blame is put on those that are discriminated against, it's amazing the reasons I have heard concerning why some remain to this day as prejudice as were our country's first citizens...amazing and pretty pathetic but it is what it is, we shouldn't ignore because if you ignore wounds they tend to fester and never heal, I feel like this issue clearly meets this analogy.

Do you seriously believe that any real Dem or honest caring common sense american citizen would not be upset or bothered by such a horrific event? do you believe that Sen Hillary would seriously wish such a fate to befall Sen Obama? His name was not mentioned and I seriously do not believe that her intent was to plant such an event in the mind of some ignorant backwoods psycho and ensure her a win to our country's highest office.

Is she clean? No I don't believe she is, Is she guilty of fighting dirty? yes I believe she is, but is she guilty of saying something that would ensure the death or fear of death of her opponent? No, I am really sorry but I just don't believe that..

I think this has been blown out of proportion because deep down there is that very real fear among the citizens of this country when it takes into account America's dirty little secret..

Don't worry, I have no doubt that he and his family are more than well protected, if anything happens to him or Sen clinton for that matter it will simply be because the powers that be either orchestrated it or allowed it to happen, they are evil and I put nothing past them, but I'm sorry, Sen Clinton maybe a liar to some, but she is not that evil.

So don't you think we need to stick together so that the evil element in our government can be curtailed to the extent that their power becomes less? Evil will always reside in politics, There will always be an element of crimes that go unseen but never to this extent has it's criminal side become so glaringly open and in our face.

Its time for a change yes, Can Obama handle it, can Hillary? Honestly, I can't say for certain but I can hope one of them can and the only way one of them will seat in our nations highest office is if we the people stay "United" as "One", This inner turmoil must lessen if we are too remain so you know..

[AllentownJake]

74. She has just set herself up

if anything happens to him, guilty or not, of being blamed for it. She has just enabled those powers that be to do it if they wish. That is sad but she needs to take responsibility for the comment. Call both Michelle and Barack an apologize and also call Ethel Kennedy and apologize. Than she needs to suspend her campaign. If something were to happen she cannot be the nominee now. Al Gore or John Edwards would be needed to fill the role. That is the only solution I will accept.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

4. Foul taste of defeat?

Not bloody likely.

[AuntPatsy]

20. Believe it or not, I hope your right and I am wrong.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

25. It's our time.

I've never been so sure.

Nothing redemptive, just a nice turn to the left. :)

[AuntPatsy]

29. I really hope so, I like your positive outlook

:-)

[anigbrowl]

5. I didn't need anyone in the media to frame thi for me, thank you.

[redqueen]

10. Exactly... WTF is with all the 'framing' shit about this comment?

This third time she's made the comment?

Is that a new talking point or something?

:wtf:

[AuntPatsy]

22. ?

[Straight Shooter]

6. We've always been a laughing stock to them.

But it wasn't until recently that I understood why. :)

[AuntPatsy]

23. Not something that sits well does it?

[Straight Shooter]

40. It's embarrassing, is what it is.

I don't know if there are any political sites on the Internet where people simply, uh, discuss. No emotional hyperbole. I keep expecting this place to suddenly spontaneously combust.

[AuntPatsy]

43. Agree wholeheartedly.

[reflection]

7. Rove did not make Clinton say that garbage.

And if he did, then they're partners. This outrage is real and/or Hillary is a mole for the RNC at this point.

[AuntPatsy]

27. very true but if you don't believe he has followers situated behind what he considers

enemy lines than your not paying attention...listen to reason from the wise, there are many wise minds on du, anger can be controlled and in some cases justified but when you allow your anger to control your common sense you lose.

[reflection]

39. I feel ya on that AuntPatsy

and thanks for the calibration (I needed it), but the MSM could have spent all weekend talking about McCain's medical records and pastor problems that they are FINALLY starting to address.

Not anymore. He skates and everyone gets to hear about Hillary opining on whether or not someone will off Barack Obama. At worst she is an inhuman monster and at best she is a harmful distraction. She needs to take her freakshow somewhere else. She is letting McCain have a free ride.

[AuntPatsy]

54. Though I can understand your reasons why you believe the way you do

I don't believe that McCain regardless of the antics of our candidates will in the end get a free ride to the winning position of president. His predecessor has "hurt" far too many american citizens, if he does win it will be by deceit and nothing more.

At this point in time I think those that will vote re pub regardless of the nom will simply because they have been trained to hate the Democratic party period and cannot venture outside this little bubble of ignorance,

Those that do not like our candidates nor McCain and still possess free will simply forgo their vote because they now trust no one..

You must take note that many republicans, even die hard ones have finally been infected and or damaged by bushchos' policies, older citizens have lost income, homes and security..regualr citizens have lost jobs, income, homes and the ability to feel secure toward the future, college grad youth have found themselves unable to find livable wages they once believed possible, veterans have been left to worry that the promises they received from the government they fight for will leave them high and dry...and the list goes on...they are a sinking ship, they could not for all intent and purpose ensure all their once die hard followers would not somehow be swept under the rug in their bid for power and unending cash dividends...

If we lost this election the only reason will be because of foul play you can count on it.

[reflection]

65. Respectfully, you made the point

that we are being divided by Rove. So how do you square that logic? Is Hillary a sabotuer, or has she actually said something that is felt by many to be utterly outrageous and reprehensible? Help me. Doesn't it have to be one or the other?

[AuntPatsy]

76. Again I will return to my knowledge that behind the curtain sits

the true speaker though his or her voice and or face are not often seen nor heard. If such an intent was put out there for the reason some fear than no I don't feel that Sen Clinton was a party to such an horrific outcome. I just don't see her going that far to win, I just don't see it in her.

What I do see is an individual that has tasted this evil, touched it and has been burnt by its proximity. To believe that even Obama's camp does not have some interlopers bent on nothing more than spying than I fear you will have a hard time believing in me at all.

I am not a theorist though I have been accused of such. But common sense and past actions and present day outcomes proves to me that the evil element is everywhere, in every single place of power they are represented. The very fact that still today they have not had to face a single crime proves to me beyond a reasonable doubt that they are very will not only organized but hidden in places where the guilty will be ensure they never have to face justice for their criminal activity..

You know something, I do fear for Sen Obama, I fear for Sen Clinton as well, how many times in the past seven years have we been left hanging and stung and shaking our heads in outrage and amazement that our present represent ives have actually done very little to curtail the criminal element in our government? many many times I have been..

What I fear most is that both of them become targets if they don't tow the line, if they don't follow orders, if they don't agree with the powers that be, Sure we have heard our reps rant and rave about this administration but has any real progress been made?

The war wages on, oil continues to rise, the rich continue to become richer, the poor poorer and the middle class poorer still..does this scenario remind you of other country's because if it does not it should, its more than obvious where we are headed,

What will they do, our candidate I mean, are they pretending to tow the line in order to ensure a wine so that perhaps then and only then will they have the power to exact justice toward the guilty? I don't know, I just don't know, I only know that it will not be easy and sometimes I think even our people have to play along like it or not, fear is a powerful weapon, fear against family members more powerful still.


I don't know, we need superman we need someone invinciable...sometimes I am not so sure we will be able to right the wrongs we have allowed to blossom. I am just not sure but I can hope.

[Dinger]

8. Ah Hell, I Post Here Anyway

After a while, one becomes desensitized.

[AuntPatsy]

33. Very true, very true...

:toast:

[sniffa]

9. And you are?

:shrug:

[Haole Girl]

24. I was about to ask the same thing. nt

[AuntPatsy]

35. Aunt Patsy, Nice to meet you...

:hi:

Though we have crossed paths before...

[sniffa]

36. Must have been memorable

[AuntPatsy]

56. If memory has not deserted me our passing was held on the issue of religion..

:hide:

[intaglio]

11. As you are so fair minded care to reply to this thread?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6096309

[AuntPatsy]

61. Okay I went over and read it, first and foremost I would have to

do a bit more investigating before making a comment regarding your accusations toward Sen Clinton, I read the responses and I failed to see where you or even they proved anything more than she said he said...

Would you like me to comment on something that I am unaware of as being factual true? I think the problem is far too many do just that.

[Warren Stupidity]

12. New talking point: in race in case Obama gets offed.

The good Senator has done this to herself. Blaming us is beside the point.

[AuntPatsy]

63. I am not sure I completely comprehend what your implying?

Care to elaborate?

[cliffordu]

14. Who would give a rat's ass what those assholes think???

[PoliticalAmazon]

51. Actually, Bush/Rove NEVER used assassination of an opponent as a campaign strategy....

Hillary is lower than Bush/Rove. Now THAT's something for the Hillary supporters and undeclared SDs to be proud of.

[cliffordu]

53. I never thought of that. She has reached that magic level

Of horror reserved for freepers and neo-nazis

[AuntPatsy]

71. That is if you believe it was her intent, I am sorry but I seriously do not.

I think for some it, this belief comes from blind hatred and when one is blinded by hate they fail to be able to find reason.

[AuntPatsy]

69. Frankly those assholes are du members and brag about it daily...

So what your saying is that if one of them came over and did what they brag they do and make friends etc you would not be upset that they hoodwinked you so to speak? You could care less what they do or say? Fact is like it or not, some of them are some of us....

I guess that makes them in a strange way the part of the same group they seem to dislike and childishly amuse themselves with by talking some pretty off the wall comments...so in effect they amuse themselves by making fun of themselves? strange...very strange.

[LucyParsons]

15. Just now?

And, besides, as Colbert's Press Corps Dinner performance showed, Rs have no sense of humor.

Also, I've been laughing at ROVE for more than ten years.

[AuntPatsy]

77. Your right, its nothing new but I hate giving them a reason that the laughter

is deserving.

[Binka]

126. Hey Illiterate One That Would Be You're A Conjunction Of You And Are

Get your grammar on Aunt. Maybe your tax breaks could afford you a tutor.

[Renaissance Man]

18. The only argument that I'm buying...

The only argument that I'm buying now is that Hillary knows that her chances for the nomination are shot, and she wanted to say something so vile, disgusting, and of ill repute that it would make her supporters WANT to run away from her.

That's the only thing I'll buy right about now.

[AuntPatsy]

78. I can not for the life of me understand your reasoning?

[dcindian]

21. What she said is what she said.

It was vile and despicable as is your thinly veiled straw man attack on those who understand when someone steps over the line of decency. To belittle those who feel hurt by such a wicked attack on a candidate's loving family is beyond vile and despicable.


You need a real value system not one made up of sycophantic fantasies.

[AuntPatsy]

83. At least if you wish to attack me on a personal level I wish you would do

so with ensuring you have more knowledge of my intent instead of using nothing more than empty sarcastic meaningless phrases?

You do realize that in your anger and outrage towards my post without reading everything you lost your common sense, it happens and now you have been made to realize the truth of it and with that you have lost your argument if you had one to begin with because frankly I am not quite sure you did?.

[Beregond2]

26. And the opinion of Rove and cohorts matters to me why...?

[AuntPatsy]

84. Because he is in a position that can touch your life on a personal level you do realize?

[Jazzgirl]

28. Why is your profile disabled??

[AuntPatsy]

85. ? First of all I have never made a profile, wouldn't know how to disable it

but I have been here for quite some time, relax I'm pretty harmless, and not much of anyone...no one important believe me.

[theboss]

30. In all seriousness, do you think we even show up on Rove's radar?

This place is a lot of things - "powerful" is probably not one of them.

[AuntPatsy]

86. You never know, isn't it better to be aware then to be caught unaware?

[Fovea]

31. Consider.

What the amount of passion, and fury will be like unleashed on McSame when we all are hunting elephant.

I see a lot of Kansas traffic, and have not as of yet actually seen a McSame sticker.
IF they are laughing now, I suspect it is the last mirth they will feel for a long time.

[AuntPatsy]

88. A few months ago I was up in the Oklahoma area, I saw many

stickers for that guy from Texas, what is his name? The one that is calling for a revolution yet is a republican? Sorry, old here, memory not what it used to be....Anyway, after I came back home and since then the only people and or stickers that I have seen has been in support of the same guy, he has hated bush from day one but for the life of me right now I can't recall his name...but he does have supporters...

I'm happy to know that your not seeing Mcsame tickers anymore than I am but really, its no surprise, it would be an embarrassment at this point in time considering he vows to continue the bushites doctrine and as we all know, people are feeling the pinch of this administration and not in a nice way...

[nichomachus]

34. I stopped worry about what they thought when

-- oh, that's right, I never gave a shit about what passed through their little brains.

[AuntPatsy]

89. I can't fault your response really...but that isn't quite the point.

the point is some of the posts here on Du are much too similar for my peace of mind.

[Evergreen Emerald]

37. recommended

The voice of reason rising from the DU crap as we swirl down the porcelain bowl.

[AuntPatsy]

90. Thank you, trying to handle my detractor's with as much dignity as I can muster...

:hi:

[DevonRex]

41. Who gives a shit? nt

[AuntPatsy]

91. Some people do, I do....

:hide:

[genna]

44. diversion. HRC has said something completely untenable and we should think about Karl Rove's sub

poena?

Karl Rove's tactics?

Karl Rove's possible arrest?

To pull together maybe?
To be more considerate of those that defend an assassination reference?
To land our backsides in stunning horror that we defended this candidate throughout the 1990s and 2000s, only to see this ?


Maybe it works, but not for me.


We will come together and defeat McCain, but we can't pass by this wreckage without being stunned.

[AuntPatsy]

92. Yes you can't forget Rove, because if you do, our party will

be unable to get us out of the mire he and his business partners have created....

And no, I am not telling you that you cannot be upset with what you believe to have occurred, this is just one of MANY such attacks toward Sen Clinton, many without reason, facts or regard and therefore lose the message they wished to have shared.....

You cannot pinpoint today only, though after reading some Dur's responses said without ugliness mind you I understand why they feel the way they do much more in regards to what Sen Clinton stated yesterday but I don't feel it was her intent. I have yet to change my opinion on that issue.

[Bluerthanblue]

45. I think we've been their "laughingstock" from day one- and

I really don't care what they think-

I DO care about what people say and do. Hillary's comment was beyond stupid- and this is not the first time.
For us to pretend otherwise would mean that we care more about appearances than anything.

Maybe the republican party is afraid to show any 'break' in the ranks- that is their problem (and it IS a problem)

Pretending that 'everything is fine' is not healthy or honest.

I'm GLAD we can be honest- even when it is uncomfortable.


Rove is not someone who's judgement I value.


peace~

[AuntPatsy]

93. I'm afraid like others you misconstrued my point, its not about caring

what they think so much its more along the lines of being them....

And republicans in my opinion for the most part no longer are so afraid to break ranks the way they once did...

And Rove might not be someone you value but never doubt he is a definite threat to all citizens of this country..No thy enemy, simple and worth taking heed.

And I am not pretending everything is just fine, far from it, we are in deep....I worry just as much as anyone on this board, I just feel some of the way some handle their fears is self defeating for us as a whole and weakens we the people needed to band together to oust the criminal element in our government.

[ShortnFiery]

46. Right on time. Another "nanny post" ... Oh how I love the smell of "feigned indignation" in the ...

afternoon. Smells like ... a distraction. :evilgrin:

[Binka]

52. Smells Like Horse Shit To Me

Straight from the HORSES ASS. The OP needs to change her name. AuntHorsesAss has a nice plop to it.

[AuntPatsy]

96. Impressed with your choice of vocabulary ;-)

do you honestly believe your choice of words hurts me in any way?;-) Don't you get it yet? I really wish you would reread my op please, and this time, leave the irrational behavior in the barn while you attempt a more reasoned response..hopefully you have it in you..:hi:

[Binka]

125. Hurt You? I Couldn't Give Two Hillary's About Your Feelings

I wasn't talking to you I was speaking to a DUer I respect. Hopefully you have it in you to comprehend that I don't care what you think. I won't be in the barn as it appears to be your home, I don't visit animals after dark. :hi: back at you.

[AuntPatsy]

95. And what could I possibly be attempting to distract Dur's from?

[PoliticalAmazon]

47. It's the Hillary supporters who now look like Class A jerks and worse....

How can they support this insane woman?

I mean, what does this say about the Democratic Party? The Hillary supporters make the entire party look WORSE tha the Republicans.

[AuntPatsy]

94. I really don't agree with your assessment regarding Hillary supporters

and I think your way off base and you should appologize...your opinion is noted, your choice of candidate noted and not frowned upon, do you seriously feel that you have the right to be so disparaging toward those still supporting Sen Clinton?

[ProSense]

48. Why because Hillary is excited that Rove believes she should continue or

is it nervous laughter because his ass could be arrested any day now?

[AuntPatsy]

98. I don't understand your response to my op in all honest?

what I would like is to see some sort of returned decorum and reasonable debates along with facts and data that can be shared and learned together...is that so much to ask? I just don't see that in acting the same way in the same fashion as right winged rag sites that it proves us any different....and that worries me as it should you and all of us.

[WA98296]

49. Save your Congrats for the Clintons. She's making her own bed.

[AuntPatsy]

99. Why should I save my congrat for the Clintons, do you believe she will win?

[SeattleGirl]

57. Wouldn't matter what we did; they'd laugh at us anyway.

I don't waste a lot of time on them.

[AuntPatsy]

100. Not my point, my point is that if you don't waste time with them their must be a reason..

Perhaps it is because of the irrational name calling and mud slinging and inane posts they continue to write?

And if so, do you not see a familiarity?

[EFerrari]

58. Welcome to my ignore list. I have no doubt you'll be in good company.

[AuntPatsy]

101. I am a bit shocked at your post....but it proves something to me...

I've always admired your passion, your drive and your unending dedication, but what I now witnessed was irrational at best and seriously, from you, that saddens me a great deal.

[no name no slogan]

60. Real Life > Democracts > DU

DU is a pimple on the ass of the Democratic Party. Most Dems I know don't even know this place exists, much less care about what a bunch of whack jobs on some web forum have to say.

[AuntPatsy]

Thats kind of sad....but I am not sure any site on the net these days

cannot count themselves lost to the openeness in allowing the general population to post...this has opened my eyes a great deal but it is just not posters here who act in this manner, others I know who know nothing of this site and call themselves Dems can be at times not much better....

[BlooInBloo]

66. Hopefully it's only you and the other 10 Clinton supporters who care what republicans think.

[Major Hogwash]

103. The admins could end this crap at their web site by endorsing Obama like Kos did.

And then this site could return to some semblence of rational thought.

I really like the admins, but enough is enough.
Obama is the nominee, whether he has all of the delegates in his favor or not.

If Hillary somehow became the nominee later, the admins could endorse her later.
But, that won't happen now, unless Hillary's wish comes true.

[AuntPatsy]

105. come on Boo, first off I am a registered Independent but will vote

democratic over republicans any time any where and you just don't get it? I support change at this point in time, and the only other alternate to the re pubs are the Dem's, my first choice was Bidden and remained so even after he dropped out, I was pretty disappointed that he did, it was his knowledge of foreign diplomacy that first attracted me, I really honestly believe we need someone who can negotiate without school yard bully threats and little or no respect for the customs of other countries...


Let me honest and I promise you this is the truth, I wanted Biden, but I want a Dem in the presidency period and my point regardless of who wins the primary they have my vote...

My point for this thread was an attempt to stop the hate not only at Sen Clinton but at those who argue that attacking her, and her family in disgusting and vile ways does absolutely nothing but upset others who might actually prefer her over anyone else..

I really feel that it is over the top and more than wrong to call another Dur's childish vile names simply because they do not agree with you vision or point of view, what is the point? We are in this together like it or not and its important we remember that...

[Name removed]

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[TBF]

72. I could care less what Rove thinks & I wonder why you do. Instead of lecturing,

perhaps you should look at the history of the campaign. Hillary Clinton is the candidate who split this party by insisting that she and John McCain are the only ones capable of running the country. It has been downhill since then.

[AuntPatsy]

106. I really don't agree and I do care about Rove, you never turn your

back on your enemy especially one that wishes you harm.

[TBF]

124. That is good advice for Mr. Obama in relation to his opposition.

[dave29]

75. You lost me when you cared what Rove thought

.

[AuntPatsy]

107. it is NOT what Rove thinks that matters, I am sorry that so many just dont get it..

How do you think this man works? He watches, he listens and he plays on your weaknesses in order to destroy you, I think you should wonder why so many in positions of power are terrified of him and if they can help it stay far far away?

[Cha]

79. hilary's the fucking scourge of the political

landscape and too fucking bad you give a shit what the fucked up hilary supporter rove thinks.

[AuntPatsy]

108. Your weakness is showing, breath and reread my op...

Never show another your weakness when you are unaware if they are friend or foe...

[Cha]

121. You're a fucking rove lover so you don't get

tell me shit aunt fucking pat-sy.

[Midlodemocrat]

80. LOL. You give DU WAY too much credit.

Thanks for playing. :rofl:

[AuntPatsy]

110. Not Du persay but some Dur's yes, I give alot of credit to, some

have worked very hard in political circles, have attempted change by actions and not words, it's those people I want to shine, those people I want others to follow, but to allow a mob to expand and grow to such proportions without realizing they could have been a part of helping for real change, do something more than simply type cuss words on a computer in your frustration..

do I think Du is important? Yes I do, because Du can be a place where activistis unite, where ideas become reality and it is after all our country and it is about we the people....

So I don't wish to laugh at people on Du, I wish to find the admiration that I once did for quite a few members who were much much more than arm chair warriors....

[chascarrillo]

81. Strangely ironic username in this context.

[NEDem]

97. That's exactly what I was just going to say.

[AuntPatsy]

111. Care to elaborate?

[quakerboy]

82. Have you ever had one of those friends

where ya get pretty close, and you trust them. But then you find out that it was not so, that they were presenting you one front, but doing things to undermine you? Are they a friend?

[AuntPatsy]

112. As a matter of fact I have many times through the years...and I get

your point. I've trusted before and have been let down, but does that mean that I should never trust again?

[quakerboy]

116. Not at all

But how likely are you to trust one of those same people repeatedly? I know many do, but that has never been my style. Of course I am a skeptic and a cynic most of the time, so I don't give my trust easily, to begin with.

[Swamp Rat]

87. LOL! .............. Rove is a goner.

[AuntPatsy]

115. God swamprat if only your cartoons could come to life,

Know anyone that can do magic ? But I don't think he is, how many times in the past several years have we stated such? too many to count and regarding too many of these criminals....forgive me if I am a bit hesitant to believe such...

[CaptJasHook]

102. Respectfully, you are incorrect

What you see on DU is a bubble for one.

What you are also seeing is the ferreting out of the last of the hard-core followers of a megalomaniac.

I have taken my gloves off today after spending hours on Hillaryis44 last night, reading vile posts from myopic Hillary followers. And then having Hillary crack open her thought process and having to see its vile contents.

I have always believed that truth will out itself. If the Progressive cause (as it is aligned with the Democrats) fails in this Presidential election, then so be it. However, I refuse to bend anymore to DLC republican lite candidates. Obama's conservatism is barely palatable. Hillary is a blatant, unrepentant corporate, lobbyist shill.

[AuntPatsy]

118. Respectfully you might be correct...

:shrug:

Sometimes I wake up and wonder if I have entered a parallel universe. I wish, I wish...

Your correct in what you have stated toward each candidate that is is very close to the truth of who they are....

You know, I have never in my life demanded perfection from a living soul, in fact if someone pretended to be perfect I had a way of ensuring their flaws became exposed...not sure why, but though much older now, my belief that there is not a single solitary soul in this world who can claim perfection in such a world as ours has not changed and which if you ask me has no real desire to.

Perhaps technology has evolved but we sadly have not...and I'm afraid we never will.

[CaptJasHook]

123. Isn't that the point though

Isn't the road we travel what is of importance. The goal is perfection of the living soul. Unattainable, for sure, but that is no reason to stop climbing the mountain.

Peace to you, AuntPatsy, on this rather unpleasant evening.

[Medusa]

104. I'd have to care a flying fuck what Rove Co thinks before it mattered to me

it doesn't.

[AuntPatsy]

119. Know thy enemy of the people or be caught unaware...

[TexasObserver]

109. Anyone who thinks Karl Rove gives a shit what DUers are thinking ...

Please. Come back to real world, where Karl Rove uses POLLS and mass media to generate his concerns.

Hillary sucks ass as a Democratic candidate, and she has earned the hatred of DUers. If we lose, it will be Hillary's fault. Why do you feel a need to chide others, as if you have some unique wisdom that goes beyond your personal worldview?

[dana_b]

113. agreed. nobody gives two shits what we think.

:shrug:

[TexasObserver]

117. We care, and those with whom we interact might care.

Democratic politicians do care, because they have to have support among Democrats and don't like having negative comments about them in the blogosphere. But most people do not care what we say or do here, as long as they don't have to read it.

But we really should keep it all in perspective. This is mainly like minded people talking about the same shit from the same perspective on the political spectrum. It's more pep rally than graduate seminar.

[dana_b]

120. fair enough. n/t

[AuntPatsy]

122. its not just Dur's it's Democratic individuals, I have no doubt that

not every single Dem in the world posts on this site, the numbers prove it, yet for each one member, fifty if not a hundred silent shadowy faces feel the same...

Ever wonder how Rove got himself so above the laws you and I would face the gulag for?

It wasn't sitting at a desk...it was watching, listening, and waiting, before striking...he is venomous and deservedly so...

But your far off bas imho that Hillary has anything to do with the win or loss of the next president...

I'm sorry you feel I am chiding you as if I would a child...I don't have anything unique going for me other than experience, if you can't share it and learn from it, what good is it? its not much but its all I have to work with.

[against all enemies]

114. Thank you Hillary for showing us the Rovian way.

[papapi]

127. hogwash

[iconicgnom]

128. Like I give a shit about Rove. Jeez, what next?

[AlCzervik]

129. Hey you know what, not everyone participated in the shit fest today, adults making

adult decisions.

I stayed out of it, it is what it is and the fall out is beyond our control.

People could have not hung out here today and tonight but many of you did so you're all or you're all out.

[iconicgnom]

131. very sharp. concise