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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 01:43 PM
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Racism is not why certain Whites stopped voting Democratic after the Civil Rights bill.

We White guys just hate civil rights.

I. Freedom of speech and religion? Fuck that. I want my taxes going to the Church of England.

II. The right to keep and bear arms? Okay. I guess we do like that one.

III. If the military wants my farm, then this good ol' American patriot says let 'em have it. Free of charge.

IV. Warrants? Once you commit a crime, you give up your rights.

V. Self incrimination? Once you commit a crime, you give up your rights.

VI. Speedy and public trial? Once you commit a crime, you give up your rights.

VII. Trial by jury? Once you commit a crime, you give up your rights.

VIII. Excessive punishment? Once you commit a crime, you give up your rights.

IX. Other rights? You don't have any "rights" not explicitly granted to you in the Constitution.

X. States and Individual rights? I'd rather put my trust in Big Brother.

/:sarcasm:


Fully half of the Bill of Rights concerns rights for people suspected of, accused of or convicted of a crime. Yet the rightwingers routinely toss out, "once you commit a crime, you give up your rights."

Another favorite saying, "you have no rights not explicitly granted to you in the Constitution," stands in direct opposition to the 9th Amendment.

And they can't get past the last comma in the 10th Amendment to the part that says, "or to the people."


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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 01:45 PM
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1. Does anybody understand this?
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 01:48 PM
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2. Yes.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 01:50 PM
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3. Cool - as long as somebody does.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 01:53 PM
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4. No, but I know of scores - if not hundreds of people who stopped voting Dem.
Heck, I have family members who moved to Australia after the Civil Rights deal.
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 01:57 PM
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5. Are you for real ????
Do those family members hate black people that much?...Why ?
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 02:27 PM
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6. Oh, I'm for real, all right.
One of my Father's friends blew up the Longview, Texas school bus yard the night before the first day of mandated integration of the Longview School District. Destroyed every bus in the yard.

I won't even tell you what my barber did.

My Great-Grandfather was the Sheriff of Angelina County, Texas for quite some time. He used to brag that any (substitute N-word, here) who was charged with a robbery or sexual assault against a White Person would never go to trial in his County.

He would just take 'em out into the Angelina Forest and come back alone.

I could tell at least a dozen more stories such as that one. Growing up in ultra-rural SE Texas will do that, you know.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 02:33 PM
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7. Johnson knew what he was talking about when he said generations would be lost to the Party
...after the civil rights bill was passed into law.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 02:37 PM
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8. He sure did.
Prick that he was, he knew his Party.

He knew his People.

I have one of the greatest LBJ stories, ever. But it takes too long to type. Maybe some day I will get around to posting it here. It's all one really needs to know about American Politics.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 02:41 PM
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9. I look forward to it
Perhaps one summer day you'll sit down and knock it out for GD. LBJ and Ted Kennedy are interesting to me. The Senate is set up to move slowly but those two are men known for their intense energy and savvy.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 02:48 PM
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10. Ah, right wing authoritarians
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_Authoritarianism

The title is somewhat deceptive, but there is some very interesting psychological research into attitudes about law and government that explains a lot about the differences between the conservative and liberal mindset. As well taking it with a pinch of salt (like all psychological models) it's also important to bear in mind that some conservatives are libertarians while others are nazis, and some liberals are very easy going while others are quite militant.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 03:17 PM
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11. I tried writing a rightwing parody of the Bill of Rights.

Then I realized any Freeps trolling through here would likely agree 100% with what I wrote.

Reminded me of a statement I read by the President of the Indiana Right to Life organization a few years ago. Something along the lines of, "Liberals believe people are good and the gov't should just be there to help, Conservatives know that people are evil and that fear of God and government is the only thing that keeps them in line".

I thought that was terribly insulting to Conservatives. All the non-religious, economic conservatives I showed it to thought it was really complimentary to them and insulting to Liberals. Though they would have deleted "God" from the statement.


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