Why is Obama so favored to win Oregon, Montana and South Dakota?

[ButterflyBlood]

Come on, the Hillary people should be able to explain this one since Obama can never win whites as they keep telling us. Obviously he won't win those states on the basis of their overwhelming black populations.

And please don't tell me that it's because Montana and South Dakota are full of Starbucks and birkenstock wearers.

[anonymous171]

1. Lazy white people who can spell "Hussein"

[Thrill]

2. Latte drinking Liberals

[Endangered Specie]

3. I guess they are full of egghead elitists...

[ButterflyBlood]

5. Not exactly what I think of as the typical resident of Montana....

but whatever.

[fujiyama]

4. Because they don't matter

and they're from states that don't matter.

[donheld]

6. Everybody in those states is black

:sarcasm:

[BlooInBloo]

51. It's AMAZING how many black folks there are! lolol!

[davidinalameda]

7. you know that all those faux cowboys up there

just love their chardonnay with their vegan stir fry

[DerekJ]

8. A study by the respected and credible research firm The Latte Liberals found that there is a strong

connection between The districts Obama wins, and the number of starbucks in that district. The reason is yet to be discovered

[Arugula Latte]

44. Quick! Let's build hundreds of Starbucks in Kentucky! We've got a couple days...

We can do it ... Yes We Can! :patriot:

[wellstone dem]

9. There are so few people in those states

that even the primaries end up being caucuses.

[last_texas_dem]

24. I don't know about Oregon in that case

They actually have a pretty substantial population.

[dana_b]

10. lookin at boring demographics, they are all slightly older han the national average

South Dakota and Montana range in the average level of college educated people, Oregon is slightly above average. They are all up in the high school grad area.


SD and MT DON'T have many Starbucks but I couldn't find any stats on Kool AId. ;)

South Dakota State Country
High school graduates, percent of persons age 25+, 2000 84.6% 80.4%
Bachelor's degree or higher, pct of persons age 25+, 2000 21.5% 24.4%
Persons under 18 years old, percent, 2006 24.9% 24.6%
Persons 65 years old and over, percent, 2006 14.2% 12.4%
Female persons, percent, 2006 50.0% 50.7%
White persons, percent, 2006 (a) 88.4% 80.1%
Black persons, percent, 2006 (a) 0.9% 12.8%
American Indian and Alaska Native persons, percent, 2006 8.5% 1.0%
Asian persons, percent, 2006 (a) 0.7% 4.4%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander, percent, 2006 Z 0.2%
Persons reporting two or more races, percent, 2006 1.4% 1.6%
Persons of Hispanic or Latino origin, percent, 2006 (b) 2.1% 14.8%
White persons not Hispanic, percent, 2006 86.6%
Starbucks:4

Montana
High school graduates, percent of persons age 25+, 2000 87.2% 80.4%
Bachelor's degree or higher, pct of persons age 25+, 2000 24.4% 24.4%
Persons under 18 years old, percent, 2006 23.1% 24.6%
Persons 65 years old and over, percent, 2006 13.8% 12.4%
Black persons, percent, 2006 (a) 0.4% 12.8%
American Indian and Alaska Native persons, percent, 2006 (a) 6.4% 1.0%
Asian persons, percent, 2006 (a) 0.6% 4.4%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander, percent, 2006 (a) 0.1% 0.2%
Persons reporting two or more races, percent, 2006 1.6% 1.6%
Persons of Hispanic or Latino origin, percent, 2006 (b) 2.5% 14.8%
White persons not Hispanic, percent, 2006 88.7% 66.4%
Starbucks: 9

Oregon
High school graduates, percent of persons age 25+, 2000 85.1% 80.4%
Bachelor's degree or higher, pct of persons age 25+, 2000 25.1% 24.4%
Persons under 18 years old, percent, 2006 23.1% 24.6%
Persons 65 years old and over, percent, 2006 12.9% 12.4%
Female persons, percent, 2006 50.3% 50.7%
White persons, percent, 2006 (a) 90.5% 80.1%
Black persons, percent, 2006 (a) 1.9% 12.8%
American Indian and Alaska Native persons, percent, 2006 (a) 1.4% 1.0%
Asian persons, percent, 2006 (a) 3.6% 4.4%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander, percent, 2006 (a) 0.3% 0.2%
Starbucks:290

[anigbrowl]

11. They don't have color TV yet - they're in for a big surprise when they meet him

[Hippo_Tron]

14. LMAO, best one I've heard yet

[TheDonkey]

12. they are not "hard working" whites they are the other kind of whites

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

[Hippo_Tron]

13. Montana is 109% African American

:eyes:

[unlawflcombatnt]

15. Elitist whites who care nothing about their fellow Americans

You know, the kind of people Obama was speaking to in Northern California when he said ignorant Pennsylvanians blame illegal immigration and outsourcing for costing them jobs and suppressing their wages.

Those are the people that are giving Obama his lead--his fellow globalist elitist supporters.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

16. Your painting sucks ass. Maybe you need a finer brush.

[Lucky 13]

17. MONTANA and SOUTH DAKOTA are elitist? You're not even making sense anymore.

Have you ever BEEN to these states? ELITIST is not what comes to mind. Very down to earth folks. Many farmers and ranchers. Salt of the earth kinda people.

You make a fool of yourself with such obviously false generalizations.

[sfaprog]

18. Riiiiight, Obama is the global elite, not the globe-trotting 109 million dollar-in-the-bank Clintons

And 'm sorry, the global elite, through federal lobbyist and PACs, shoveled most of their money into whose campaign? Oh yeah, Clinton's.

It'd be funny if a single Clinton-supporter smear of Obama withstood even a cursory look at the facts.

[GoesTo11]

20. And large numbers of African Americans

[last_texas_dem]

26. Did you object to the broad-brush statements some Obama supporters made about West Virginians?

If you did, this post of yours reeks horribly of hypocrisy.

[ButterflyBlood]

35. Montana and South Dakota are full of elitists?

Wow.

[roguevalley]

42. you are a complete dumbass. you don't know the states. Oregon has

a history of THINKING. that is why they are flocking to Obama. they want to continue forward to the future. Hillary is the past with all the baggage and crap associated. they have chosen because they THINK. get over yourself and don't insult states you have obviously never seen. You can bite my ass.
Elitist? HA! You don't know these two states if you believe that but whatever delusion you want to live in, go. Knock yourself out.

EDIT: This is for #15.

[slinkerwink]

49. so ranchers and farmers in South Dakota and Montana are elitist?

[Cha]

55. You fucking lie and expect anyone to take you

seriously while you're regurgitating sour grapes. Typical hilary shit.

[Tatiana]

58. Globalist elitist white farmer supporters?

First I've heard of that demographic :rofl:

[rug]

19. I don't now about the other two but Montanans can hop over to Canada if things go sour.

[QC]

21. Because those states are full of good, pure, noble people!

Is that the answer you were hoping for?

[LeFleur1]

25. South Dakota Has Outlawed Abortion.

Montana is a pretty "leave us alone" kind of state. They have, in the past, thought that Republicans tend to do that.
South Dakotans, too, tend to be further right than left. More moderate than left.
Oregon is a mixed bag. Very environmentally conscious, as we saw when McCain went there and began blathering about saving an environment he has no interest in, according to his Senate record. They are quite independent in their attitudes. They have a Right to Die law in the state. (and I hope we will soon have it in this state).

They may all believe that Obama would be a change in the way things are done, in spite of the backing of those who have been in office and done things in the same way for a very long time. Even moderates and those who lean a bit to the right, even those who usually pay no attention, are beginning to think the Republicans reign has been beyond disastrous.

[ButterflyBlood]

27. Wrong.

That was rejected by the voters.

[LeFleur1]

36. Rejected?

What was rejected? If you are talking about the Right to Die law, it was not rejected in Oregon.

[ieoeja]

38. South Dakota abortion law was rejected by the voters.

South Dakotans turned out not to be the knuckle draggers the GOP thought they would be. All that stunt did was prove what the "pro-life" folk are really attempting. And it ain't what they have been telling voters.

[ButterflyBlood]

53. The abortion ban in South Dakota

It was rejected.

[last_texas_dem]

22. The truth?

It's their high covert-Muslim-posing-as-black-Christian-radical populations.

[TexasObserver]

23. Because white people in states without a history of racism towards blacks LOVE Obama!

It's as simple as that.

[skooooo]

28. Racism is all over though.....

Thank god i live in the pacific northwest. It's just more liberal up here for the most part.

[TexasObserver]

34. FEAR is the key component of racism, and in the NW, they don't fear blacks.

That's the history to which I refer. In states where there is fear of blacks historically, there is racism towards blacks unseen in other states.

[BlooInBloo]

52. If it weren't for Seattle, it would be a close call with rest of this...

hick-except-for-Seattle state.

[Frank Booth]

47. Yeah, I think that is the answer. Very simple and blunt, but true.

Montana and South Dakota have their share of poor, uneducated whites just like West Virginia. But there's not really a history of racism towards blacks (at least compared with much of the rest of the country).

I grew up in a rural state bordering these two, and the issue of race just wasn't high on people's minds. You'd hear white people talk about Indians (Native Americans) and that talk could sometimes get racist, but not to the level of virulent hatred.

[otohara]

57. Right Answer

because it's the truth.

[geek tragedy]

29. Because they're SEXIST.

Can't believe you missed that one.

[roguevalley]

45. I hope you are kidding.

[geek tragedy]

48. Of course.

I was just reading out of the Clintonista Playbook.

[WA98296]

30. OR, MT, SD ALL have Voter Verified Paper Record. Kentucky, not at all.

No Verified Voter Paper Trail, No Audit. Who ever programs those machines, can do pretty much whatever they want. I wonder if they could create any polls that "say" whatever they want.

[theHandpuppet]

31. Actually, I would welcome a serious discussion of voter trends in these states

It's a subject that interests me, especially because the plains states have been solid for the red column for some time now, at least in Presidential elections.

Anyone care to offer up some stats on the demographics of Democratic voters in those states? Number of registered Dems vs Repugnants, economics, income, etc... ?

Thanks in advance to anyone who wants to dive in here with their analysis.

[rucky]

32. They fell for the oldest trick in the book...

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[NJmaverick]

37. They don't work as hard in the North West

[ElsewheresDaughter]

39. he will win only by 5.....not very impressive eh?

[anonymous171]

40. Well, he doesn't let his spouse do all his campaigning for him, so...

[ElsewheresDaughter]

41. Gag order on Michele...she would sink him again if turn lose

[AZSlacker]

43. Funny thing about that win by 5 thing

Guess how many points the *very same polling company* had him projected to win by in NC? (5!)

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/nc/north_carolina_democratic_primary-275.html

Remember how reliable that turned out to be?

[slinkerwink]

50. It's ARG, for heaven's sake.

[roguevalley]

46. 5. where. he is going to whip ass in the NW.

[lojasmo]

54. She only won a single border state with all those states.

California...and only because of early voting.

[AtomicKitten]

56. Because hard-working white Americans won't vote for him, silly.

Oh, wait, that's not right. It's the racists that won't vote for him.