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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:46 AM
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Poll question: Should pledged delegates remain pledged through the first ballot.


Clinton PLEDGED Delegate just switched to Obama


Even as an Obama supporter this is troubling.

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/05/pledged-delegat...

But then again Hillary said that pledged delegates were fair game.

The question is was he poached?
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:47 AM
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1. Pledged delegates should remain pledged thru the 1st ballot. Afterwards they can vote as they please
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Abacus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:54 AM
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5. agree!
I don't understand how switchers can so willingly undermine the will of the people.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:55 AM
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7. Superdelegates are bad enough (able to switch with the wind)
But for delegates who represent actual votes to do that is bad precedent.

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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:11 PM
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18. A-stinkin'-MEN to that!
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stahbrett Donating Member (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:48 AM
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2. Obama supporter here who thinks they should be bound through the first ballot (nt)
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:52 AM
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3. It's partly Clinton campaign's fault for choosing him... he was pro Obama in December.
But yeah, for starters, pledged delegates should be bound.
Big picture is that there HAS to be a better way than all this delegate shit.
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:52 AM
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4. Agreed. They should be bound thru the first ballot
I don't like the idea of the pledged delegates switching around, even if it's in my candidate's favor.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:54 AM
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6. What's the point of calling them "pledged" delegates if they can switch teams?
The only pledged delegates who should be switching teams would be the handful of Edwards delegates out there, since he's out of the running. (And they should vote for Obama, of course :evilgrin: )

The Obama delegates and the Hillary delegates were elected to represent the voters of their states, and they should vote accordingly.
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:56 AM
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8. Yes they should stick with their pledges
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:00 PM
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9. I am bookmarking this thread for future use
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:03 PM
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10. Just tememeber the overwheling sentiment of Obama Supporters
is that He is Hillary's delegate andshould remain so.
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bobbert Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:03 PM
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11. As far as pledged delegates are concerned, if the voters who voted for you
change their sentiment, then you should be able to change yours with them. Perhaps many of the Clinton supporters in his county now prefer Obama, and his change in view reflects those of his voters. He should not betray the voters, but if popular sentiment changes then by all means he should change his view as well. I don't see why he's any different than any other elected official, he just only gets to cast one vote on one thing, but those voters who voted for him can persuade him if their views change. Hence, I feel that a delegate should have the freedom to change their vote.
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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:03 PM
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12. You have a link that works?
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:07 PM
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17. Try this link:
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:03 PM
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13. They should stay put, but...
According to Clinton, they don't have to.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:05 PM
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14. Depends...
on what the meaning of "shall" is...
:shrug:
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:05 PM
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15. poached? you left out 'released'.
Clinton and Edwards should release their pledged delegates and, in a strong show of unity, the 1st round should be a near unanimous vote for Obama.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:07 PM
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16. It's not The Math. It's The Politics.
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