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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 06:31 PM
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So Hillary's latest claim is Obama can't get white people support
JEEEEEEZ!!!!!
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flor de jasmim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 06:33 PM
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1. I'm not a huge fan of Chelsea, but I wonder if she ever feels she has been taken hostage...
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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 06:48 PM
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9. Regardless of what happens I have to admit that I've been a little disappointed in Dems.
The black votes don't really count arguments just left me with a lot of disgust. A black vote is a vote. Period.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 06:33 PM
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2. What she is really saying is we can't win without the support of racists.
And if that's who we have to pander to in order to win, I'd rather lose and let this country die the death it deserves for wallowing in such attitudes.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 06:42 PM
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7. If the super delegates
take this away from Obama based on this rationale for Hillary being the nominee spin I will leave the Democratic Party.

I listened to what Hillary said and it's hard to take her words any other way. She was essentially saying that she needed to be the nominee because white people won't vote for Obama. White people are voting for Obama and will continue to do so. Assuming all those "working class white people" will somehow turn to McSameasBush is a specious argument.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 06:44 PM
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8. You and me both Mz Pip.
100% in agreement. :hi:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 06:49 PM
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10. We get the government we deserve.
The key word is "we."
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:04 PM
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16. I disagree
Edited on Thu May-08-08 07:05 PM by NewHampshireDem
Someone here once wrote, 'We don't always get the government we deserve, but we always get the government we earn.' IMHO, *that* is why we need to continue to fight. We will get what we earn.

And I'm very glad to have you on our side, TahitiNut!

On edit: Just so I'm clear--I only really disagree a tiny bit. The sentiment is the same! :)
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 06:35 PM
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3. I was in a line for an Obama town meeting today.
There sure were an awful lot of white people and women. I'd guess about 98% of the former and 50% of the latter.

But then using Clinton math, that's probably not much.
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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 06:51 PM
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12. She has a way of e-x-a-g-g-e-r-a-t-i-n-g these things
doesn't she?

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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 06:35 PM
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4. This is all over Drudge too. The sad thing is Hillary is making Republicans look good
Now Republicans can point to Hillary as a racist or race-baiter while Republicans forget all the times they have pulled the same crap. She is making Democrats look bad and it's pissing me off.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 06:36 PM
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5. Didn't Obama win Iowa? Is there a state get any whiter than IOWA?
Puh-leeze, Hill! Projecting your racism much?

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 06:53 PM
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13. Idaho, Maine, Montana, New Hampshire, Utah, Vermont, Wyoming, and the Dakotas.
Edited on Thu May-08-08 06:54 PM by TahitiNut
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 06:38 PM
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6. I know, it's like we're all sent back in time to the Jim Crow South.
:crazy: :thumbsdown:


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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 06:50 PM
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11. I can't believe she went there n/t
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 06:53 PM
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14. Me either. And I wonder if Hillary supporters really would accept a win that way.
I'd like to think they'd not.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:02 PM
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15. Ron Brownstein, Chuck Todd and Tweety----
The day before the Indiana Vote these three Pundits sat on
MSNBC and Ron using records from all previous primary elections:
they sat there and illustrated in no uncertain terms with data
how Obama does have problems with certain groupx. They had
no problem saying. He has to win Indiana and prove he can
win a rustbelt state. Overnight the story changed. They ignored
the fact he could not win a rustbelt state and suddenly NC.
was a great win. Anyone who knows math knows that with the Democratic
Party in NC being 40% Black, there was no way Hillary could win.

This is the sort of thing that makes people not turst the Media.

It was the Media who were saying and proving that Obama has problems
with groups of voters. Yes, the Media called them WHite, White WOMEN
White working class. The Media are acting like a bunch of Hjypocrits.
It was the Media who said Obama needs to win In. to prove he can
win a rustbelt state.
See Hardball Archives May 2, 5.P.M. edition




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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:09 PM
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17. Here's some white guys called Cake with a musical suggestion to Hillary
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ecdab Donating Member (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 07:22 PM
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18. Obama actually won or tied for the lead in the working class vote
Edited on Thu May-08-08 07:22 PM by ecdab
(working class being defined as income under 50K for the the purposes of these numbers)in 3 of the last four states - 66% in MS, 50% in IN, and 54% in NC. So I guess the whole white working class thing has been reduced to just white. Plus his support among white voters has actually increased in the last 3 primaries over what happened in MS and OH.
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