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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 04:47 PM
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Please Obama...
I know you are not anti GLBT but please research your the pastures before they become your spiritual consultants.

Rev. James Meeks is a close friend and spiritual consultant to Sen. Obama. Rev. Meeks appeared in TV ads for Obama’s US Senate campaign; Obama campaigned at his church; and went there for prayer the night he won that primary. Meeks was on his exploratory committee for the Presidency, and his church choir performed at a rally for Obama the night he announced. Rev. Meeks is also an Illinois state senator who has aggressively campaigned against gay rights and complained about “Hollywood Jews for bringing us ‘Brokeback Mountain’.” He ran for governor on an antigay platform. He calls being gay an “evil sickness,” and his gigantic church is one of those which sponsors a Halloween fright night in which, according to the “Chicago Sun Times,” among those “consigned to the flames of hell” were “two mincing young men wearing body glitter who were supposed to be homosexuals.” His church has also launched antigay petition drives for the Illinois Family Institute, and Meeks is also aligned with Antigay Industry powerhouses Focus on the Family, the Family Research Council, the Alliance Defense Fund, and Americans for Truth that proclaims “fighting AIDS without talking against homosexuality is like fighting lung cancer without talking against smoking.” We do not know if Sen. Obama was also too busy campaign for US Senate to “go after him” as he’s said he can do to get others to do the right thing. We only know that his close friend and advisor, the Rev. & Sen. James Meeks voted against SB3186, against LGBT equality in Illinois, and is apparently, just like Donnie McClurkin, just as homohating as he was before ever meeting Barack Obama.


http://www.queerty.com/obamas-gay-backers-20080221/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Meeks#Anti-gay_Contoversy
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 04:51 PM
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1. :) Glad to see "homohating" used by someone other than me!
Always thought "homophobe" was the most non-responsibility word possible.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 05:05 PM
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2. Not that I question the truthiness of this excerpt
but you are quoting a lunatic Hillbot, who posted a comment in the comments section. I've read several of his comments on that site, and he seems about as honest and objective as your typical lunatic Hillbot.

http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=obama+meeks&btnG=Google+Search

Time to dig.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 05:12 PM
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3. Thanks for telling me.
I did not realize it was in the comment section. The fact still remains that Obama does not have the best luck when picking spiritual consultants.
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 05:14 PM
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4. well its judgement, he obviously does not do his homework, that scares me.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 05:15 PM
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5. The fact still remains that Obama does not have the best luck when picking spiritual consultants.
Thank goodness were not nominating him to be the Spiritualist in Chief then.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 05:35 PM
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9. The term "spiritual consultant" is lame and offensive.
And doesn't apply at all in this case anyway.

But I'd prefer there to be no religious test for high office, you know, like that old rag says is the law of the land.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 05:57 PM
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10. Finally found the origin of this
Obama: I have a deep faith
Barack Obama credits his multicultural upbringing for his theological point of view.

April 5, 2004
Recommend (12)

Another person Obama says he seeks out for spiritual counsel is state Sen. James Meeks, who is also the pastor of Chicago's Salem Baptist Church. The day after Obama won the primary in March, he stopped by Salem for Wednesday-night Bible study.

"I know that he's a person of prayer," Meeks says. "The night after the election, he was the hottest thing going from Galesburg to Rockford. He did all the TV shows, and all the morning news, but his last stop at night was for church. He came by to say thank you, and he came by for prayer."

http://www.suntimes.com/news/falsani/726619,obamafalsani040504.article
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 05:16 PM
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6. How many "spiritual advisors" does one politician need? n/t
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kdmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 05:18 PM
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7. Research your pastures?
MUHAHAHAHAHAHA... I think you mean pastors there. Unless Obama has taken to consulting with large swaths of grassland!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 05:33 PM
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8. Where I live, we are seeing the local organizing model beginning to bear some fruit.
We're talking about local activists crossing ALL of the group lines and organizing local people and getting them active with phone calls and emails in response to state environmental issues, with some moderate success recently.

You don't mention whom you are working with, locally, but part of what doesn't work in trying to affect things at the national level is the fact that, without a coherent and significant action unit, what individuals do gets diluted by the scale you're working in. Everything at the national level is also determined by national timing, so if your issue isn't hot enough at the moment, or doesn't compete well with all of the other issues taking people's attention, it doesn't draw enough media and the numbers you need. The national groups often are just toooo national, i.e. not a threat in local races, unless they are churches, that is. What we need to do is replicate what the churches have done by building locally, then action units who have demonstrated their effectiveness can cross over ALL issue and group lines to solicit cooperation and become more powerful at higher levels.

Yours IS a CIVIL RIGHTS issue; it HAS staying power. What it needs is committed local organizing/action and regional networking. The main objective is to stay together, to have a longitudinal strategy and to stay active on local legislation.

Solidarity, ccharles000!
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 06:02 PM
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11. Yes, folks: religion is dangerous
Sure, evoking it gives you much cachet for being "nice" and "honorable" among many people, but it's just plain dangerous.

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