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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:03 AM
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I really couldn't hear the word n***er
in the clip. I listened to it several times with headphones, volume jacked up.

"these people are shit" is very clear however. ("oh sorry" makes it even worse, clear knowledge of guilt.)

FWIW.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:03 AM
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1. The Media needs to loop it with sound experts, so we can be sure..
Edited on Fri May-02-08 11:04 AM by meow mix
media need to do thier job on this one. i need my loops
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:22 AM
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21. lol! If there's a Ceiling Cat, they will loop it.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:04 AM
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2. The movie has been out for a long long time, if he was misquoted
he would have corrected it, considering the nature of the comments.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:05 AM
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3. selective listening
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:05 AM
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4. Yeah "these people are shit" definitely pushes an "elite" angle
:kick:
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:05 AM
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5. Listen more closely and turn it up. No doubt he says the N word. nt
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:06 AM
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6. Close your eyes and turn the volume up. It's pretty clearly there.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:06 AM
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7. Clean the wax out of your ears.
He didn't say they were white knitters.

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:06 AM
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8. What? Link?
:shrug:
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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:10 AM
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13. Link inside.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN_nQOHj__s

Needs to be blasted to the media demanding they treat this the way they've treated the Wright issue seeing as Kantor has been with the Clinton's for roughly as long and is a current advisor to Hillary's campaign.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:07 AM
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9. I did. It was whispered, and very clear.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:07 AM
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10. I don't think "those people are shit" will play well in IN, regardless of
whether or not you can decipher the "N" word.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:09 AM
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12. Why Would They Say That
Edited on Fri May-02-08 11:14 AM by Crisco
When they were celebrating that the exit polls showed them leading?
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:20 AM
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17. If he did say it, the context is plausible
Clinton is ahead everywhere, but the margin in Indian is tight. Kantor's angle is "who cares?" We could lose Indiana and it wouldn't matter a bit.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:24 AM
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22. It's a "see how easy it is to fool those dullards?" moment.
It's the attitude of exploitation by con artists. It's all about the immorality of treating human beings as a MEANS rather than the ends.

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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:25 AM
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24. Except It's Not
The original, undoctored video is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_wKOgMNs0U

And Kantor very clearly says "shitting" as in, those people are shitting, as in the Bush White House!

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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:31 AM
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26. Yup
that's what he says. "Shitting".

He's cheering being up in Indiana - there's no reason to insult them there.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:38 AM
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27. That's not what I hear. Sorry. Nice try.
:shrug:
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mystieus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:21 AM
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20. You got that right!
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:08 AM
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11. I heard it.
Using good headphones, the n-word's pretty easy to pick out in that video.
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:17 AM
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14.  delete
Edited on Fri May-02-08 11:23 AM by kokono
.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:21 AM
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18. I agree.
There's something wrong there...
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:24 AM
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23. Could have just been out of sinc with me.
but nothing would surprise me.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:19 AM
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15. I hear it - clear.
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liskddksil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:20 AM
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16. Nonedited video (4:30 minutes in)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_wKOgMNs0U

It still sounds pretty clear if you turn the volume all the way up.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:29 AM
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25. It's VERY clear, through headphones--even if Kantor does whisper it!
Edited on Fri May-02-08 11:30 AM by flpoljunkie
Thanks for the entire video clip of The War Room, part 9.

Edited to add your video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_wKOgMNs0U
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:28 PM
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28. It's clear to me now Kantor is saying "shitting" on my better headphones. Link to later post.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5784792&mesg_id=5784792

Kantor, after hearing that Bill Clinton was ahead in Indiana, 42-40, says, "It' doesn't matter if we win. Those people are shitting. How would you like to be in the White House right now?

Kantor is referring to the Bush White House where Bill Clinton is leading in Indiana--Dan Quayle's home state.

Listen to the tape and the context--where Carville and Stephanopolous are apparently looking over exit polls--begins 3:54 into the tape. Steph has a paper in his hand and says, "What's this? "Holy Shit!" and Carville says, "What? Are those the new ones?" (exit polls)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_wKOgMNs0U
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:21 AM
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19. Neither could I
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