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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:07 AM
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So my MIL sent me this Obama smear email...
she often does before she forwards them and I have been able to debunk every other one (if anyone would like to read the text of it PM me because not even Hillary's biggest supporters would think this filth belongs on DU). I tried looking it up on snopes, but there is nothing, perhaps this is a new one, but the gist of it is that he has a group funneling money to Raila Odinga. Can anyone help me debunk this before the crazy old bat sends it to everyone she knows
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ruby slippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:10 AM
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1. I don't know but here is something I found he said about his "cousin?"
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:11 AM
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2. yeah, i read about that at hillaryclintonforum.net...
But your question baffles me.. how do you prove snow white and the seven dwarves don't exist?
If there's a specific fact you want us to disprove, I'd be glad.
Otherwise, you'll have to go into hillary sites like above and try to figure out what the "evidence" is before you can debunk it

my thoughts.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:13 AM
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4. well...
without the inflammitory rhetoric, it basically states that through a group called "Friends of Obama" he has given millions of dollars to Raila Odinga and indirectly contributed to violence and slaughter in Kenya. Oh and he's a muslim prophesied in the bible to be the antichrist, but that's old news :banghead:
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:09 AM
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9. does it say that in "revelations" the bible describes the antichrist as a 40ish yo muslim dude who
is articulate and brings hope to people? cuz if so, I'm TOTALLY DOWN with the antichrist.
Here's a snopes piece
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/kenya.asp

I'm on hillaryclintonforum.net, and they seem to think that...
dick morris is working for obama AND odinga...and they're all up to no good.
you can start with the fact that when Odinga and Obama are not first cousins, which is one of the assumptions, right?

Oh man, I can't take this. It's like being slimed in Ghostbusters.
I dare you to enter that site... these people...think Hillary is surrounded by a magical aura, they donate to Larry Sinclair, and they seem to genuinely fear black people.

apparently, you need to be digging around at these sites:
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/31/obamas-african-hubris-2/
http://www.sodahead.com/blog/2048/
http://caosblog.com/7071
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/2649
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=7636&highlight=odinga
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=8821&highlight=odinga
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=7835

The third URL from the bottom is actually amusing.

I can't take this... I'm about to start puking all over the keyboard.
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ruby slippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:11 AM
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10. magical aura...is that the same thing as Nancy Reagan's astronomy readings?
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:21 AM
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11. I think if you have a magical aura, you no longer need to consult astrology, you
pretty much are just the bomb, and whatever you do will be the new standard for awesome.
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ruby slippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:30 AM
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12. so she's the Antichrist?
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:06 AM
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14. It doesn't say that in my bible...
but apparently to those who use a liberal interpretation and have a heart full of hate it does! I thought that position was already taken anyway.....
http://www.bushisantichrist.com/

Enjoy! :)
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:15 AM
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17. Oh man anyone who abuses math like that should receive some sort of math punishment.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:24 AM
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18. Ever since Pot and Pan fun day
This place has served as an endless place of amusement.

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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:21 PM
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20. Well tell your MIL that allegations without proof are just gossip
just as it's the prosecution's job to prove someone committed a crime beyond a reasonable doubt, not the defense's job to prove otherwise. Unfortunately stupid people don't appear to get this, so they go around doing things like insisting people believe the same religion that they do, and if challenged they demand that the other person prove God doesn't exist.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:12 AM
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3. THat whole campaigning over there is going to come back and bite him, if he's still in the race.
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ruby slippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:16 AM
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5. here you go. here is the snopes link.....good luck with MIL, she sounds like....
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:20 AM
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6. Thank You!!!
that was the one I needed, I wonder why I couldn't find it....
could it be that I'm a dumbass? :hi:
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:22 AM
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7. I'll do my best to deter people from answering that.
Can't make any promises.
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ruby slippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 01:43 AM
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8. it was hard to find....if you put in the guy's name, it didn't come up, but
I typed into Snopes Politics and Kenya came up and then there it was. At least it says that snopes could not find a link to that so you can write back to MIL. Good luck.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:48 AM
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13. Tell her that he IS the antichrist!!!
And because JEEZUS said that the antichrist would become our leader, she (and all of her fundie friends) have to vote FOR him, else it gives lie to the prophesies of the bible!
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fight4my3sons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:11 AM
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15. send it to
[email protected]

the webesite wants smear emails so they can fight back against them.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:15 AM
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16. Thank You!!!
I will do that right now!
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:01 AM
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19. anyone who sends me one those gets this response
"If you ever send me any such nonsense about Obama again, I will have your email address blocked."
---------------

They all get it, even relatives.

I don't try to respond to people who get their information from other equally ignorant rubes, who also get their news from emails someone somewhere generated. I tell them to go read some intelligent discussions about Obama, and then write to me. I will not dignify that kind of idiocy by attempting to rebut it.

Besides, it's not any of the things they write about him that bugs them. To a person, the people who wallow in those emails are racists. They practically cringe at the thought of a black man being their president. The list of stuff they rattle off that's supposedly wrong with him - that's just bullshit fabricated to justify the hatred, which is racially based. If his name was George Washington Smith, they'd still be pissing and moaning. If his great great great great grandfather was Thomas Jefferson, they'd still hate his guts. If Billy Graham was his pastor, they'd hate on him. Stirring that bad element and capitalizing on it is one reason I will never support Hillary Clinton for any office, ever.

IT IS SKIN DEEP, THIS HATRED OF OBAMA.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:25 PM
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21. The only problem is if I debunk them for her she promises
she won't forward them to anyone else. But, I suppose no one on her buddy list will vote for Obama anyway. Then again, many of her fundie friends are so apathetic about McCain they might not vote at all unless they are scared of the evil black man. Stupid people suck!
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:25 PM
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22. I think I got that one
and posted it here last night. If it's the same email it has a list of all of Obama's "lies." The thread got locked. It was a pretty scandalous email.

My response to my RW cousin was: I get it. You don't like Obama. And neither do your friends. I don't like McCain and neither do my friends.

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