anyone dumb enough to believe that Hillary quote?

[Enrique]

I find it laughable that people are trying to get people to believe that Hillary meant "rich people deserve all the opportunities."

It's hard to imagine that any politician would say something so bizarre.

So when people were faced with the claim that she said that, did anyone fall for it?


edit: changed "Hillary said" to "Hillary meant".

[LakeSamish706]

1. I guess until we see something otherwise, some will believe it. n/t

[TheWraith]

2. I wouldn't believe she'd say "If I'm president, we will attack Iran," either

I'd like to see documentary proof on this new quote one way or another.

[PoliticalAmazon]

34. Good point. When that girl panders, SHE PANDERS. n/t

[rodeodance]

39. Oh Nooz! The Obama’s are pandering to the uneducated Bubba’s & BHO gets stuck on REPEAT

Oh Nooz! The Obama’s are pandering to the uneducated Bubba’s & BHO gets stuck on REPEAT


Guess BHO did not quite have his new pander story memorized! I am sure it went better today.


……Barack Obama was showing signs of campaign fatigue. Sitting on a picnic bench in a park on Pagoda Street, Indianapolis, in discussion with a group of 30 supporters, he told a story about the "modest" background of himself and his wife, Michelle.

And 10 minutes later, seemingly having forgotten, he told them it all again.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/may/01/barackobama.hillaryclinton


…….


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080501/pl_nm/usa_politics_obama_michelle_dc;_ylt=AlxkjSLtTnvb5QybY0ywS3fzj9AF


Obama's wife joins push to court working class

By Caren Bohan 1 hour, 54 minutes ago

[PoliticalAmazon]

42. I'd rather hear a true story twice from a candidate than a "sniper" lie four times from a candidate.

[last1standing]

3. Um...She did say it.

It's all over DU and it's not altered.

I know it's taken out of context but then she did say "Rich people. God bless us". It's hard to take that out of context no matter how you look at it.

[Shae]

51. damn the internets and the google. nt

[dorktv]

55. depends on how it was said "Rich people...*snort* God Bless us."

[last1standing]

58. Unless that *snort* was the sound of her inhaling modeling glue, there's no excuse.

It was a bad statement that reeked of elitism. I would like to say that I'm amazed that the MSM hasn't run with this but then I saw Dean taken down for a scream that never was.

[dorktv]

59. there is a reason I am not much of a fan of Senator Obama.

I remembered how vicious the media was to Howard Dean...anyone they like I really could not be a fan of.

[last1standing]

60. So you prefer the person who is trying to tear him down now?

The Clinton camp has been trying to destroy Dean's reputation for months now in an attempt to remove him as DNC chair. They have been every bit as vicious as the MSM.

[dorktv]

61. I have not seen much about the Clintons tearing him down.

But I knew they never supported him really. No one in the leadership did. He won on his own merits by doing the same thing he did to get where he got in the Presidential race.

As for Senator Clinton ripping into Senator Obama. Politics and pretty tame at that-Anyone who has read the history of 19th century presidential campaigns knows it.

[goclark]

56. I heard her say it ! She is a real piece of work nt

[democrattotheend]

4. She did say it, but context is important

The quote sounded pretty out of touch, but I am told that the next sentence was something about how rich people should pay more in taxes, which would obviously change the meaning. Probably just poor wording. Then again, we all remember how willing Clinton and her supporters were to recognize a valid point worded poorly. Oh, that's right...

[redqueen]

7. Heh. (nt)

[global1]

9. Bittergate = Richgate.....

Obama said probably just poor wording - he should have said 'angry' instead of bitter' - look what they did to him on that one. He became an elitist. So this ranks right up there for HRC.

[Enrique]

23. could any politican possibly say rich people deserve all the opportunities?

[L0oniX]

44. Bush would say it ...remember "haves and have mores"

[SemiCharmedQuark]

33. Why just this morning I was told "context doesn't matter"

It doesn't matter that when Obama said he would not forsake Muslims, he was saying he would not forsake them should the tide turn against them as it did the Japanese during WWII because context doesn't matter.


I don't believe in payback, but I am dying to have someone argue context doesn't matter again.

[L0oniX]

46. Funny that no Clinton supporter had a problem taking "G0d damn America" out of context.

[gateley]

5. What was the quote in its entirety?

I'm guessing there is more to it than that.

Regardless, even though I do believe those that work hard (as opposed to being a CEO of a corp who rakes in multi-million dollar bonuses for transferring jobs overseas) do deserve to benefit from their hard work, it's not something that would go down well with the vast majority of Americans. Especially during these economic times.

[Enrique]

11. rich people deserve all the opportunities to pass on their good fortune to the next generation

in context, she was arguing on Fox News that rich people such as her and O'Reilly should pay more taxes.

I find it extremely sad that any so-called liberal might try to twist this fine articulation of liberal values, especially in such a stupid way.

[mckeown1128]

45. Hillary doesn' t believe in context:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5772322

[Deja Q]

47. Thank you.

In my post, also quoting her, I asked if there may have been more. What you said makes legitimate sense, as to the context involved. (Though Bill trails on about "I am a saver"... which is interesting, President Bush told people to spend live normally after 9/11. Looks like Bill didn't. Ruh-roh. :silly: )

[Jersey Devil]

6. Perhaps you'd like to see the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N64fDLplBfQ

You can argue about the context it was said in, but she did indeed say it.

[Enrique]

16. isn't it good that she said rich people should pay more taxes?

why should liberals play games with this?

[last1standing]

21. Why should they have played games with the word "bitter"?

Because some people need to play their little games. Were you one of them?

[Jersey Devil]

27. She didn't say rich people should pay more taxes

At least she didn't say that on the video I posted. She said something about rich people being able to pass on their riches to the next generation, but I don't interpret that as being done through paying taxes. If that is what she meant then she was very obscure saying it that way.

[madrchsod]

41. yes you are "blessed" hillary....

you are anointed by god to go forth a spread your vast wealth to the great unwashed


..remember it`s very hard to go through the eye of a needle

[babylonsister]

8. Watch your gal and weep; who's dumb now? Video here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=126048&mesg_id=126048

[juajen]

17. OMG, she said, rich people deserve all the oppoirtunitites to make

life better for others and their country. Listen again. Ya'all are unbelievable.

[Deja Q]

43. "God bless us; we deserve... to make sure our country and our blessings continue for the next

generation."

I listened twice to make sure. Did you?

Do middle class Americans feel blessed right now?

I would like to see MORE of that interview, just to make sure there isn't more that's being withheld to create a false context.

[Enrique]

19. only because you asked

you're dumb now, because a leading democrat has argued on Fox News, to Bill O'Reilly, that rich people like the two of them should pay more taxes, and you are responding with this ridiculous exercise.

[babylonsister]

20. You're calling us dumb if we believed she said that? She did, there's

proof, maybe you need to recheck your OP.

[Enrique]

25. of course

and you're dumb enough to think someone might believe she would say something so impossible.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

30. Help, Enrique. Are you saying your OP was ironic, that you knew she said it

but were acting as if you didn't believe she did?
If so, your irony is going over or under everybody's head.
:*

[Enrique]

38. I edited the OP

I wasn't being ironic.

I think it's not true to say Hillary said rich people deserve all the opportunities. But the edit should clarify so there's no confusion about what I'm saying.

[John Q. Citizen]

10. I still find it hard to believe, and very unfortunate that she endorsed McCain over the Dem front

runner.

That was the end for her, with the supers, IMHO.

Extremely stupid and something that is unforgivable in politics.

She could have said anything about Obama, but you don't endorse the opposition party opponent and think your own party isn't going to react.

[LSparkle]

12. Even taken in context, it bothered me

She may have been talking about the environment when she mentioned
passing things on, but to me it reeked of inherited wealth (meaning
she's hoping to have a boatload to pass on to Chelsea).

[leftstreet]

13. Why not? She said shit like "I remember landing under sniper fire..."

It's hard to imagine that any politician would say something so bizarre.

:rofl:

[L0oniX]

48. LOL

[Mz Pip]

14. Well gee,

the media and the Hillary supporters have had a field day taken what Obama says out of context.

THe fact that you are surprised by this is what is laughable.

[DemGa]

15. They're trying desperately to make something stick

They can read the writing on the wall: Barack Obama is fast becoming a political joke.

[sandnsea]

18. And Obama never said he'd invade Pakistan

But that didn't stop any of you, or Hillary herself, from saying he did. And that's just one example of many.

[MojoMojoMojo]

22. Boneheads believe it

[olkaz]

24. Did anyone fall for "bittergate"?

Awww, can't have it both ways though, can we?

[graycem]

26. She sure had NO problem

taking "bitter" out of context when they knew good and well what he meant since Clinton had already asserted the VERY same thing during his campaign. But now context matters. Funny how that works.

[zulchzulu]

28. You are full of....

SHIT!

This shit better get on the airwaves pronto. The so-called "Bitter" comment was NOTHING compared to this.

[Enrique]

31. Obama backed away from his comments

he reworded them after they got a lot of attention in the media.

This thing will Hillary won't get any attention in the media because as stupid as they can be, the media isn't THIS stupid. And as stupid as they think we are, they don't think we'd be THIS stupid.

This level of stupidity only exists on the Internet.

[DefenseLawyer]

29. Sucks to be taken out of context and have your words distorted doesn't it.

Who would do such a thing?

[mtnsnake]

32. I love how you've got so many of the Obamawhiners squirming & twisting. lol

[MattP]

35. It happend so get over it

I find it bizarre that Hillary said that while calling someone else a elitist. I guess I will believe my eyes and ears on this one and not someone telling me it didn't happen.

[Enrique]

40. do you consider yourself a liberal?

I'll assume the answer is yes.

So, my question to you is... Hillary Clinton articulated an important liberal principle last night, that rich people should pay more taxes.

She did this to a Fox News audience that normally hears the opposite on their channel, night in and night out, without challenge. Now a prominent Democrat comes on and takes on their guy O'Reilly on this core question.

So my question to you is, while Hillary is doing that, what are you as a liberal doing, playing games?

[Pirate Smile]

36. No.

[EFerrari]

37. Only people who have been tracking the Clintons' concern

for working people would fall for it.

[baldguy]

49. Hillary is acting & looking more & more like

Leona Helmsley

[Jed Dilligan]

50. What she meant doesn't matter. She fucked up using those words.

She should eat and eat and eat and eat them--all the way to next Tuesday. I'm kicking every thread that quotes them. I want legs on this shit. Poetic justice, here we come!

[swishyfeet]

52. I don't care what she meant

If she doesn't have the judgment to construct her sentences perfectly, I can't see how she'll have the judgment to defeat McCain in November. It's over Hillarites!

Did I get that right?

[anigbrowl]

53. No, but she'll have fun trying to explain it over the weekend. .nt

[Lord Helmet]

54. ya and that shit was just about as funny as Bush joking about rich people

[Aloha Spirit]

57. After some of the crap stories around here lately, I just assume reality is the opposite of DU.

[rodeodance]

62. Reminds me their Bookbag rant, or their tears rant--it will pass.