Newt Gingrich just totally silenced the crowd at The Daily Show while Jon was trying to defend...

[Up2Late]

...the whole Obama/Rev Wright controversy.

Jon was doing his best to say "...what's the big deal...?" But check out the replay at 1:00am EDT, the silence was deafening.

[Cha]

1. Yeah, fuck it all.. the wedge issue is

dead.

[jefferson_dem]

2. I'm not sure what you mean. Were they silent because they thought / know Gingrich is full of shit..

or what? Thanks.

[Up2Late]

11. I'm not sure either, I try not to listen too carefully to what he says...

...as usually what my former, so-called "representative" says is totally BS, and this time was no exception (that I didn't listen carefully), but I did notice how silent the crowd was near the end of the interview.

I'm going to have to watch it again to see if he made any good points.

[jefferson_dem]

27. Gotcha. I'll check out the TiVo capture in the am.

Hey, we're neighbors. I'm in Newt's old district as well.

Kind of tough being a progressive antagonist here in "God's Country", eh? :hi:

[Ichingcarpenter]

32. John owned him.... Newt supports your Candidate

nuff said.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

37. Newt has been on The View and radio shows all over country stumping for Hillary

now that's sick.

I heard him on a morning show that airs across NC today at 9:30

and he was on the Alan Colmes (another hillary supporter big surprise) show tonight.

He's been going everywhere trying desperately to be the authority on
what good dems are.

Sheesh, the neo cons are trying to completely take over the Dems.

[Ichingcarpenter]

40. Hillary supporters now support this guy.......

Because she supports him too.

[TheDebbieDee]

48. Do you have a link to back up that statement?

A poll? A study? An article? Or did you just pull that "fact" from your a$$?

[Ichingcarpenter]

52. You find nothing wrong with the biggest neo-cons

verbally, vocally, in the print, on the tv, across the internet coming out
and supporting Hillary? You don't question it? 'The Vast Right Wing Conspirators'
now support Hillary?

DID SHE ATTACK THEM AND SAY I DON'T WANT YOUR SUPPORT?
Bill Krystal, newt and others.


NO................

[ccharles000]

62. That is a disgusting thing to say.

Hillary does not support him in any way. I certainly do not support him.

[harun]

66. When are you HRC supporters going to WAKE UP, Hillary IS A NEO-CONSERVATIVE (n/t)

[ElsewheresDaughter]

53. got a link to back up that statement?

I didn't think so

[Jed Dilligan]

55. Must suck to be outnumbered

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/05/13/news/clinton.php

[Ichingcarpenter]

58. See post number 39

Your posts and responses on Late Breaking News,
Science, environment and other forums on DU astound me.

[TheDoorbellRang]

25. I think they were all waiting for Jon to zing him, but Jon let him go on

with his wormtongue imitation too long, IMO. Newt was saying how important Wright was, moreso than Hagee, yada yada yada, and then of course there's Obama's association with William Ayers -- so very bad yada yada yada.

I kept thinking "Jon! Shut him down!" And I would imagine the audience was thinking the same.

Jon finally said something about if you played six degrees of separation with all the candidates, all sorts of interesting people pop up.

Newt is quite the effective concern troll.

[BurtWorm]

29. They were silent because they were watching the disheartening difference between power and hope.

Gingrich made Stuart look naive, not because Stuart actually is naive, but because Gingrich is the dispassionate incarnation of the carnivorous cynicism of American politics since 1973. He made very plain the intention of the GOP, the media, and the powerful minority whose views and interests they share to use Wright as a sledgehammer to smash Obama and his movement to smithereens. And it became clear that there is probably nothing Obama or his movement can do to stop them. The game is not played as Obama was trying to play it. Gingrich seemed genuinely surprised that anyone might hope for anything better from the system than personal attacks and barely sublimated racism.

[TahitiNut]

31. Naked avarice is rarely funny.

:shrug:

[BurtWorm]

61. It's almost shocking to see how much more brutal authentic cynicism is than satire.

But it's at least instructive to see it. You wouldn't see that clash between experience and innocence so starkly in any other venue in the media.

[Up2Late]

42. THANK YOU! Finally a well thought out reply!

You are probably right about all that. :yourock:

I wish you could give lesson to all the poop-flingers here who replied with ridiculous knee-jerk reactionary posts.

[BurtWorm]

60. Thank you for that kind post.

:hi:

I actually think that was an emblematic moment of where the nation's politics are now. Perhaps the nation is more mature and resilient to the noxious influence of Gingrichism than it seemed last night. I can only be audacious enough to hope so.

[Texas Hill Country]

64. this is what I have been trying to say for MONTHS. The Repubs will be BRUTAL

he will not be able to stand up to the attack.

[AllentownJake]

69. Why is he stumping

For Hillary than and against Obama now? Wouldn't it be better to wait than smash?

[uponit7771]

3. What did he say...or didn't say? Jus askin

[Up2Late]

23. Who? Jon or Newt?

Jon was asking Newt why the double standard (why no outrage for the Haggey, Pat Robertson, add any other crazy RW Preacher here). I'm sort of blanking on what Newt said, force of habit I guess.

[CoffeeCat]

4. Boy, Newt is making the rounds today for Hillary...

This is unfuckingbelievable!

Newt was on "The View" this morning, spewing Hillary Clinton's talking points about
being ahead in the popular vote. Newt even dismissed the "smaller states and caucuses"

This is so unfucking real. God, what an insult this is to Democrats!

Why are the neocons schlepping for Hillary?

They are all over it! They're everywhere, leveraging HER and demonizing her opponent.

This is unprecedented!

I'm starting to believe that Richard Melon Scaiffe, is some kind of Wizard of Oz type character. You have
to visit him and pay homage--if you want him to release the hounds.

I swear--did she pay Scaiffe for some political hit-job services?

WTF? This is so blatant and obvious.

Attention neocons!!! Not all Democrats are as dumb as you assume!

[MannyGoldstein]

9. She's The Perfect Dem Candidate For Neocons

If she gets the nomination, they can probably beat her:

"When a Democrat pretending to be a Republican runs against a Republican, the real Republican will win every time"
- Harry Truman

And if she *does* wins... they'll have a Neocon in the White House anyway.

[MidwestTransplant]

14. Obliterate Iran won over their hearts.

[Cha]

18. And you know they admire the way she lies

without blinking.

[Auntie Bush]

26. Don't make stupid comments!

[tabasco]

41. That's a great Truman quote.

Been a long time since I saw it.

[Cha]

17. Thanks for your rant on this, Two Sparkles..

you know they think nobody notices..newt, freakin', grinrich is stumpin' for hilary clinton.

Main ones I want to notice are the SuperDees.

[Up2Late]

28. No he's pushing a book and he's solidly in the McCain camp.

Three actually: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url?%5Fencoding=UTF8&search-type=ss&index=books&field-author=Newt%20Gingrich%20]

He's not the friend of any Democrat.

[Ichingcarpenter]

39. No he's pushing attacking Democrats he didn't even talk about his book

Hillary said she was working with him on health care
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/05/13/opinion/smith/main695090.shtml


And she is working with him on the Military Industrial Complex
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/13/nyregion/13hillary.html

"Unlike most members of the legislature, she has been in the White House," he said. "She's been consistently solid on the need to do the right thing on national defense."

'He says he has been impressed by the job she has done since becoming a senator.'

[goclark]

34. Don't thy have some kind of rules for candidates?

There should be some basic rules of decency that they should follow.

If there are rules and she has not followed them, we need to know.

If there are rules that say "Thy can put down any Democrat and lift up any Republican that I want to as much as I want to" please let me know so that I will not give one more dime to the Democratic Party.

This is outrageous.

[wiggs]

50. Bill Kristol has been doing the same....just yesterday or day before:

"Hillary is a good solid candidate."

It's a full court press against the newcomer, the outsider. Just more proof that is not dems vs gop, or left vs right. It's those with money and power against those without. And there are plenty of dems that are just fine with concentration of wealth and power into the hands of fewer people....as long as they're one of the few.

[Tarheel_Dem]

54. and let's not forget that Obama has promised to continue any investigations

into this maladministration. I'm beginning to agree more & more with "blm" that the Clintons and Bushes are interchangeable. This is why the right doesn't fear her, even if she does recapture the WH, the neocons will be safe.

[MidwestTransplant]

56. She had them at obliterate.

[babylonsister]

5. Maybe the silence was because they didn't agree with Gingrich. nt

[Up2Late]

16. Usually they Boo when that happens, this was stunned silence I think.

What he said? Not sure, I sort of tune Newt out when he talks.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

19. He was trying to justify McCain's acceptance of John Hagee.

[Hepburn]

6. Make me hurl....

...Newt is getting praised on the DU??? WTF????

[Up2Late]

30. I'm NOT praising Newt. I voted against him every chance I had to do so.

Get a clue.:eyes:

[scheming daemons]

7. Um.... watch again... they CHEERED after Jon's points.... were quiet after Newt's

The crowd was in 100% agreement with Jon.

[BlueIdaho]

8. Wrong forum? Newt is not a friend to Democrats - Hillary, maybe - Democrats - no.

[Name removed]

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[Bluebear]

13. You have something against cock sucking?

[Name removed]

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[babylonsister]

21. Whoa, that was a rant! I was just about to comment, too.

:hi:, Bluebear. I know we aren't talking, but just felt like saying hi to you.

[Bluebear]

38. Well, let's talk :)

I miss you, I'm really not filled with hate, and I hope our friendship will transcend this horrible primary :)

[ruggerson]

24. Yet another Obama supporting homophobe?

they're like rabbits.

[SoCalDem]

35. Dammit, Bluebear.. now ya got me missing "Deadwood" again

I was almost over it from the other day when someone mentioned that word combination :grr:

[Political Heretic]

44. I wish I could have seen the post. I love Deadwood! :)

[swishyfeet]

12. He was on a local PDX radio show to lay his slime trail

The format of the program is so fast that he gets a pass from basically calling Obama an extremist and terrorist.

I emailed the host of the show and he apologized and thought it was appalling too, but not much he could do since Newt was only on for like a minute; pimping his book for the remaining 45 seconds. I was somewhat shocked he replied to my rather flamey email - let alone that he felt bad about it.

For Portland folks, it was Exploding Whale guy...

[SemiCharmedQuark]

15. No...they cheered Jon repeatedly and were quiet when Newt was spewing shit.

[Ichingcarpenter]

33. The OP supports Newt's support of Hillary tearing down Democrats

I saw the whole thing Newt got owned.

[CakeGrrl]

22. Hillary has the VRWC shilling for her. 'Nuff said. Supers, please take note. -nt

[Up2Late]

36. No, he's pushing his stupid books again...

Re-writing History is a full time job for him.

<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url?%5Fencoding=UTF8&search-type=ss&index=books&field-author=Newt%20Gingrich%20>

Btw, I haven't a clue what your "VRWC" code word means.

[CakeGrrl]

45. 'Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy'

Scaife, Limbaugh, etc.

[Ichingcarpenter]

43. The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy is shilling for Clinton

Look who the fuck is coming out supporting her....... and Clinton supporters still
don't get it.

[Cha]

46. They don't want to get it..

She can lie, cheat, steal, ..have rush limpbaugh shill for her..along with neut and they still are whinging about Wright. Fucking whiners.

[Name removed]

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[harun]

68. The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy was against Bill, they love Hill (n/t)

[Up2Late]

47. Replay starting now.

Watch yourself, then give me an knowledgeable comment.

I know, that's asking a lot for GD:Politics.:kick:

[uponit7771]

51. The crowd applauded at the end when Stewart made the point that we should start looking at McSames..

...circle of friends but you fail to mention that.

Also, Newt didn't "silence" the crowd with good point he silenced it with repeated RW points of 20 years while ignoring Stewarts point that McSame looked for Hagee and Parsley.

Also, Newt said if a white pastor said the things Wright said he'd be castrated in the media while ignoring the things Falwell, Parsley, Hagee and Robertson has already said.

[Up2Late]

59. The applause at the end was clearly forced, uneasy applause, but the 3-4 minutes before that...

...it was dead quiet. He stunned that audience, no doubt about it.

Watch it again on a replay, I think it replays at 10:00am, 2:00pm and 8:00pm or catch it at this link about mid-day tomorrow at SpikeTV.com

SpikeTV (a Viacom property) usually has the Daily Show video first: <http://www.spike.com/show/17676>

[BurtWorm]

63. That interview disturbed me deeply, for the reasons I wrote above.

I'm still bothered by it. Jon Stewart, bless his heart, was trying to provoke some sense of shame in Gingrich on behalf of his cohort in politics and the “serious” media for trashing Obama while McCain gets a free ride for his associations with wingnut pastors and venal lobbyists.

I read Gingrich’s attitude as communicating something like, “But, Jon, please... McCain is a white Republican.” I mean, he didn’t say that, of course, but the subtext of his response was “This is America in 2008, Jon. We have different standards for Republicans and Democrats now--let alone for white men and black men. Do I really have to point that out to anybody? Isn’t that obvious? Were you expecting the rules to suddenly change now? Wake up: Why on earth would they?”

It felt like the audience was witness to this sad conflict between hope and naked power in which, of course, naked power wins because it actually has guns and will use them.

[Cha]

67. Well, isn't nuet going

to be shocked then?

[BurtWorm]

70. I really hope he's in for a bigger shock than the one he got in 1998.

I keep thinking of Meet John Doe. It needs a better ending than the original one, though. Our new John Doe needs to kick that greedy bastidge's fat ass before he gets the plug pulled on him.

[RainDog]

57. Stewart didn't bring up the racist Bob Jones U. and fealty repukes pay to them.

and newt was there to start the republican spin. Obama is supposed to be scary because of Wright. JFK had to go up against baptists saying that the catholic church was the whore of Babylon (something many of them still think, according to their "left behind" ideas.) JFK, as was obvious, was in no way a religious person before he was an American leader.

this is what the opposition groups hope will taint the saint. but it ain't about saint. it's about getting rid of the Bush... taint. Inspiring some positive actions from Americans.

[wowimthere]

65. Obama supporters and those with good sense... don't be sucked into Right-wing talking points even

if it is a wannabe right winger. Some of the Clinton supporters want to drag you into the melee to keep the Wright discussion going. That's old politics. Newt Gingrich is responsible for this darkness. Why go to a video to see him? Turn the negativity lose. Don't watch the clip. It's how Wright got his start by the Neo-cons and the Republican wannabes. It's merely a distraction to divide Dems.

My suggestion... don't even watch the cable news when they want to go negative on Obama.

[Lady-Damai]

71. Why hasn't Hillary Clinton DENOUNCED and REJECTED supporters like Newt Gingrich?

I guess she shares the same views.