John and Elizabeth Talk To The Daily Mirror... Finally a Little Wisdom!

[DaLittle Kitty]

It WAS and Remains ALL 'bout dat "First Black/First Woman Thang..." What a Shame! except fer McCain... It IS Beginning To Look Like... Hmmm? :silly:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2008/04/21/exclusive-video-senator-john-edwards-talks-to-the-daily-mirror-89520-20390296/

Exclusive Video: Senator John Edwards talks to the Daily Mirror
EXCLUSIVE: The brave wife who inspires America's election kingmaker
By Anton Antonowicz US Correspondent In Chapel Hill, North Carolina 21/04/2008
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Elizabeth Edwards says she does not want to be photographed.

"I've been with my doctor this morning.

I'm pumped full of stuff. So please, take any pictures you want with John. Just not me."

That she has agreed to talk with us only hours after her latest cancer treatment is testimony to her strength.
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That she later insists on being in the picture with her husband and children speaks volumes.

When the time for that photo comes, she doesn't want to be the missing face in her family. Not yet.

Her husband John Edwards dropped out of the US presidential campaign two months ago.

Tomorrow Pennsylvania is the location for the last major primary in the Democratic race for the White House between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

The polls have Clinton leading in a state she must win to keep her campaign alive, and reduce Obama's national lead.

The contest looks like going down to the wire and the support Edwards attracts makes him a potential kingmaker.

Too late to... :think: Blame The Corporate Media... America's Insurance, Energy and Military Industrial Complex was able, through the Voice of Corporate America... to Avoid what WOULD HAVE BEEN... for them A DISASTROUS John Edwards Presidency... as their power would have been THREATENED severely... Ahhh... but no more... :puke: :hurts: Now WE WILL Pay the PRICE!

...It's a role he denies. But, for a man who was John Kerry's running mate for the White House in 2004, and who many still believe would be the best Dem presidential rival to Republican John McCain in November, he seems destined to remain centre-stage.

With his wife right there beside him. Go Elizabeth! :)

Elizabeth welcomes us to their huge, new £3million ranch-style home among firs and lakes in rolling, horse-country.

We're standing in the huge front room, when 54-year-old John strolls in wearing jeans. Elizabeth is also dressed simply in black trousers, a white linen shirt and white cardigan.

We spend the next two hours talking politics but it all somehow becomes secondary to observing the glue-tight relationship between this man and woman.

She corrects him on his grammar - he smiles patiently then laughs when she loses the thread of an argument. He talks about his priorities - then she expands on them. It's difficult to know where one of them ends and the other begins.

"Well," says the remarkably younglooking John. "She was right in opposing the Iraq war from the start," he says. "But there are other things she's been wrong about..."

Cue much laughter all round.

Speaking with a hickory-smoked Dixie twang, John explains that the US needs to remodel its international standing.

"We must co-operate with other nations.

The world has shifted. The dangers are much less nation state against nation state. :) This guy knows The BIG Picture! Shame he's no longer in it....

It was ALL 'bout tat "First Black Man/First Woman BS..." What a SHAME... Now We're STUCK! :crazy:

But of course... That WAS "The Plan" ALL along... Shame I was the ONLY person to recognize it... Well I know that I have some company out there... but America IS SOOOOOO Easily MESMERIZED that it IS PATHETIC! :nopity:

For the balance of the story and the VIDEO... Go Here...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2008/04/21/exclusive-video-senator-john-edwards-talks-to-the-daily-mirror-89520-20390296/

[Inspired]

1. You are hardly the only one to recognize this.

Yes, we are stuck but John and Elizabeth would want us to move on and support the causes that are important to building one America. They aren't sitting in their house feeling sorry for themselves. By the way, is it really only a 3 million dollar house? You'd think it was 30 million from how the media carried on about it.

[DaLittle Kitty]

2. Could not agree More...

:) BTW... If the Dem Insiders manage to screw up 2008... one way or the other, then hopefully John and Elizabeth will be well rested and fit as a fiddle to WIN in 2012! :think: :)

[DaLittle Kitty]

3. And... Away We Gooo.... How could America Come Up With These Candidates?

:think:

[DaLittle Kitty]

4. READ THIS POST!

Edwards makes sense!:)

[ginchinchili]

46. Yes, the Democrats screwed up again.

Better to lose to another white, male Republican than to win with a white, male Democrat.

[DaLittle Kitty]

49. That Has Been The Paradigm This Season... Corporate America Has Prevailed Once Again!

:puke: after you :think:

[DaLittle Kitty]

55. Yes However In Leiu Of That, I Want To MAKE CERTAIN THAT EVERYONE ELSE DOES!

Recognize the ABSURDITY of this "Historic" race... between a black man and a woman. Nuth'n like turning a CERTAIN WIN... into a very likely BIG LOSS... and loss of control of the House... Hmmm? DUMP THE DLC! :puke:

[shadowknows69]

5. I wrote a column about it

<http://journals.democraticunderground.com/shadowknows69/148>

[DaLittle Kitty]

21. Thanks Shadow... And Here IS YOUR Column!

AGREED!!!!!!:)
Stalking the shadows: America doesn�t need an �historical� Presidency right now.
Posted by shadowknows69 in General Discussion
Mon Jan 28th 2008, 07:59 AM
Right off let me say that I think the thresholds we could potentially cross in this election are long overdue. Our government should always look like our country. The rich, white men only club has no place in the 21st century. The glass ceilings that have held back women and minorities in this country must be forever shattered.

That being said; we don�t have time for that right now.

While I have no doubt that Senator Clinton or Senator Obama would make competent leaders, at least according to our current pitifully low standards, I think that this election has already been too much about that and them.

This country has been raped and pillaged by the most adept and evil band of thugs and oligarchs in possibly the history of the world and, to paraphrase a saying from Hillary�s playbook, we need to hit the ground running and I see this whole election as antithetical to that end.

My greatest fears are firstly that the Democratic Party will be moved irretrievably closer to the center or worse and secondly that the whole �historic� aspect of electing Clinton or Obama will not serve as the wake up call this country needs but in fact more of a sleeping pill.

As has been painfully obvious in the last seven years America loves to sleep. We seem to have a problem multitasking as well despite our technologically amazing age. I�ve seen the American people and our politicians on both sides of the aisle distracted and mesmerized too easily and too often by the mundane and by shiny objects, remaining willfully blind to the more glaring problems in front of them.

We need to end this war that should never have happened.
We need to restore our Constitution and our rule of law even for our rulers
We need to address global climate change IMMEDIATELY and enact sweeping legislation to save our species from extinction in the next 100 years.
We need to STOP giving money or tax breaks to companies that refuse to employ American workers but wish to do business on our soil.
We need to reverse the totalitarian tactics and unitary executive dreams of the current administration and give our people back their freedom
We need to have a �Manhattan Project� (except the nuclear part) to find alternative and renewable energy sources.
We need to declare to the world that we will no longer be a �first strike� nation.
We need to declare to the world that we will no longer be a nation that tortures
We need to try to further peace in the Middle East by giving equal space at the negotiating table to Palestine and Israel.
We need to withdraw combat troops from the Middle East and stop furthering the destabilization of sovereign nations and inspiring more hatred for America.

The list goes on and you can sing it by heart. My fear of a Clinton or Obama Presidency is simply that we�ll be so busy as a nation either patting ourselves on the back for this �accomplishment� or tearing ourselves apart because the ignorant strain of the gene pool goes bat shit crazy about it that we won�t address any of these vitally important topics in any kind of a timely manner.

It does appear that one of the two will end up being our nominee at this point barring some Twilight Zone moment at the convention; and so it goes. We the people need to make sure that whoever the nominee and eventual winner is that we remain more diligent than ever and make sure they get right on the �to do� list because it�s a long one and time is short in the life of this nation if they don�t. Just my pair of pennies.
Shadow out
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[DaLittle Kitty]

51. Democratic "Leaders" Have Already Pronounced National Health Care D.O.A. In The FIRST Year...

of ANY Dem Presidency... So MUCH FOR THAT This Bunch of Corporatists on OUR? Side... errr What? :puke:

[NJObamaWoman]

6. Does anyone here NOT care for Elizabeth and John?

Then sit by me because I'm one of those people who just find them irritating.


Before anyone tries to jump all over me and say how dare I talk bad about a woman who suffers from cancer and her husband I call BS. I call BS because my grandmother died of cancer during a time where having cancer was a shame. She was a black woman who NEVER had the money or the medical treatment that Mrs. Edwards has. A woman who NEVER got a chance to see her grand children. Cancer is very prevalent in my family in which my mom and aunts are survivors. Now that doesn't mean that I can't judge these women or like/dislike them (I love them by the way).

I just hate how the media and even folks on this board act as if Mrs. Edwards is a goddess. She is not the only woman to have had cancer and she wont be the last. Let her try working two jobs in male dominated professions while raising kids and not having the best health insurance.

I find this king maker crap just that. CRAP and in fact it makes me not even care for the Edwards. IMHO I don't care if they support Clinton or Barack. I care more about Gore than Mr. John Edwards and his wife. At the end of the day the Edwards family having done anything for my family. And I feel like its a cop out to say that oh he was pushed out because of the first black/woman thing. The fact remains that Edwards didn't appeal to people or atleast enough people to stay in the race. IMHO thats not Obama or Clinton's vault thats his campaigns fault.

[bpeale]

8. aww. come on now. you're just mad because he won't endorse Obama

admit it. you're just a sore loser who's feeling a little raw right now.

:nopity:

[NJObamaWoman]

9. Hmm no I'm not like everyone else here. I'm from Jersey and I've

never heard of John Edwards before 2004. Even after the election I never heard that much about the Edwards family. Trust darling I'm not raw about anything I know that Obama has it locked in a bag. I'm more worried about the GE. I'm worried about the deep seperate in the democratic party. I'm worried about whether I should change my status to independent and how do I go about doing that because I'm not sure that I care for the democratic party anymore.


I have to laugh at the violins because thats truly not me. At this point I see BOTH candidates getting beat by McCain and yes I'm an Obama supporter. I'm not like you even though I'm an obama supporter I like to stay pretty much objective and I feel that this party has some deep issues that will flair up during the GE. As a black woman I can't/wont vote for HRC. I also understand that there are Clinton supporters who wont vote for Barack. Thats an issue that that needs to be discuss and dealt with by this party NOW.

Honestly I'm not mad that Edwards wont endorse Obama. I never cared for John. He always came off as slimey during debates. I honestly hope he doesn't endorse Obama. The Edwards family are more like the Clintons than the Obama's. More privileged whites who know nothing about real struggle or diversity. I like the Obama's they are like me and mine :)

[bpeale]

11. sounds like you've been drinking right wing koolaid to me

[DaLittle Kitty]

61. Could Be? Hmmmmm?

:)

[Darth_Kitten]

17. Oh brother.......

Wish my mother had the "privilege" of worrying herself silly about where to put her two girls in ballet classes. :eyes: Pass the Arugula salad with Raspberry Vinaigrette, Michelle. :eyes:

I really think you read the Edwards the wrong way.

[DaLittle Kitty]

52. Not Likely My Friend I Have Met Him Personally, and Have Him "Read" Correctly...

About that, I am Certain! :)

[DaLittle Kitty]

20. And the "Engineers" of This "Farce" of A Primary Knew these Voting Trends In The GE Before...

It Ever Got Started... You folks have ALL Been "SCammed!" It sucks that I have to put up w/ the political naivete' of the masses who fell hook line and sinker fer this put up job! :argh: :eyes::think:

[SammyWinstonJack]

34. Scammed and played! And we will all pay for it! Again! Damnit!

x(

[Bake]

13. We admired Elizabeth Edwards long before her cancer.

Cancer has nothing to do with it. I'm sorry you are so bitter, and I'm sorry you lost your mother to cancer.

Bake

[Bake]

14. Edwards was trying to do something for your family.

You lost your mother to cancer, in part, because she didn't have adequate health care. Edwards was the ONLY candidate to push for universal health care. Your candidate hasn't. So Edwards was trying to do more for your family than your own chosen candidate is proposing to do.

Think about that.

Bake

[DaLittle Kitty]

16. ABSOLUTELY CORRECTAMUNDO!

Edwards had the BEST Plan to get US to a Single Payor Plan... His was the PATHWAY! :applause:

[bluetrain]

19. Kucinich did, too.

[DaLittle Kitty]

22. The Role of Kucinich In The Primary... Was To BLOCK EDWARDS!

Just da sorry facts! Kucinich should be finished now as far as Presidential runs go... :) But Edwards AIN'T!

[DaLittle Kitty]

23. Who Among The Three Is NOT An Agent FOR CORPORATE AMERICA?

:think:

[cali]

32. Edwards did not push for universal healthcare. the only real universal healthcare

plan is single payer. Only Dennis supported that. Edwards plan was slightly better, but like Obama's and Clinton's was based on Hacker's work out of Yale. All three plans are far more similar than they are different.

[SammyWinstonJack]

37. !!!

:applause:

[DaLittle Kitty]

15. My Friend you Are JUST... FOS! PERIOD!

These two candidates are as even top level party people have said... "The TWO... LEAST ELECTABLE CANDIDATES THAT WE HAD IN THE DEMOCRATIC FIELD!" So now we are going to have a razor thin TOTALLY LOSABLE General Election because of this "manufactured" black vs woman thang... Which AUTOMATICALLY divided the Democratic Party taking its two largest constituencies and pitting them one against the other. The drone was so loud that a reincarnation of Jesus Christ would not even break through. That's the truth , ignore it alllll ya want but that is it.... So lets just see what happens... But IT ain't gonna be prettty.. THAT'S FER SURE! :)

[chimpymustgo]

29. Many of us thought Elizabeth a goddess BEFORE she got cancer. What uncharitable remarks.

Why even bother to post such.

[onehandle]

31. Telling. Isn't it? nt

[DaLittle Kitty]

41. YES... It IS Telling... What a Bunch... Whose "Principles" are so Readily Cast Aside...

THREE... COUNT 'EM, THREE "Corporatist" Candidates... So Little Difference... So MUCH In Common... WHY? Because Da THREE Of 'Em Were HAND PICKED By CORPORATE AMERICA! Yes, We/ YOU have been SCAMMED Again! :puke: Problem is I am standing right beside you so all da puke's on ME TOO! :puke:

[SammyWinstonJack]

35. ...

:boring: :eyes:

[moc]

58. I'll sit with you. I don't find them irritating, but I'm mystified by the belief

expressed by some that JE is/would be some great savior of progessive causes. The problem I have with him is that his actions while in the Senate don't match his current populist rhetoric.

I do like his wife, though, and their strong marriage makes me feel more positively toward JE. However, I could never get past the fact that I didn't feel he was sincere, that it was all just a role he was playing (i.e., "son of a millworker" etc.).

:shrug:

[DaLittle Kitty]

59. Millworker Story Was Tiring I'll Admit, However Talk to People Who've Met Him, HeIS Sincere!

trust me I have met him several times... John Edwards IS The ONLY REAL DEAL THAT WE HAVE GOT! Notwithstanding Barack,,, I am Giving Barack A Little More Credit having watched him more lately... I believe that Barack has a fair bit of Sincerity about him... Hillary WILL DO A N Y T H I N G! TO BE PRESIDENT! That's ALL Ya Need ta know there... :think:

[my3boyz]

7. Oh that breaks my heart that their son asked who would be grandma to his kids. :( nt

[wowimthere]

10. Your assessment seems to be coddled in either bigotry, sexism or worship...

I can't tell which one. You say that Edwards was the best candidate and that's your right but I suggest people stick to the issues rather than simply on color and gender. If your candidate was that astoundingly good he would never have voted for this war and if he really wanted to rid the nation of poverty and racism then he wouldn't have voted for the bankruptcy bill either. These two votes undermine his core principles of fighting for the poor person. Those people are the ones who are fighting this war and fighting to get out of poverty. Violins don't make sense to people who are affected by the votes he cast.

If we want to put a candidate in proper context, Edwards fails like Clinton because both voted on these measures. Obama, not having been in the senate for the war vote (but spoke against invading Iraq) and voting against the first bankruptcy bill (abstaining from the second because it increased poor people's debt) is a better candidate than either of these two.

Issues account for something, don't they?

[DaLittle Kitty]

18. And How many Vote Did Obama NOT Cast While in The Illinois House?

Yes and Edwards has learned from his mistakes... Obama WILL Make His Mistakes while President without benefit of Edwards experience hard earned. Oh and BTW John Edwards has not been "bought" by Wall Street and The Nuclear Power and Big Coal Like your friend Obama.... So do not cast stones when you are throwing them right into Obama's Mirror my friend! :)

[stillcool]

38. here you go....

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/16/opinion/16mikva.html?ex=1360818000&en=9417ee6115534086&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss


The New York Times
February 16, 2008
Op-Ed Contributor
‘Present’ Perfect
By ABNER J. MIKVA
Chicago

SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON should probably be forgiven for not remembering the course on the state Constitution that she would have had to take as an eighth grader in Illinois. But had she remembered it, she would have known that Senator Barack Obama was not ducking his responsibility in the Illinois Senate when he voted “present” on many issues.

Unlike Congress and the legislatures of most other states, each chamber of the Illinois Legislature requires a “constitutional majority” to pass a bill. The state Senate has 59 members, so it takes 30 affirmative votes. This makes a “present” vote the same as a no. If a bill receives 29 votes, but the rest of the senators vote “present,” it fails.
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In the Illinois Senate, there can be strategic reasons for voting “present” rather than simply no. A member might approve the intent of legislation, but not its scope or the way it has been drafted. A “present” vote can send a signal to a bill’s sponsors that the legislator might support an amended version. Voting “present” can also be a way to exercise fiscal restraint, without opposing the subject of the bill.
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It never occurred to me or to any of my critics that I was ducking responsibility for a making a decision. Mr. Obama was an outspoken member of the Illinois Senate, and not someone known for dodging questions, whether they were on ethics, police responsibility, women’s choice or any other hot-button issue.

Even if Senator Clinton does not remember the constitutional majority requirement in Illinois, one of her advisers might have explained it to her. When I was White House counsel, President Clinton frequently reminded me that he had taught constitutional law before he ran for public office. I would hope that he would assume that another constitutional scholar — Barack Obama — would be aware of his voting responsibilities as a state legislator.

Friday, January 25, 2008
'Present' votes defended by Ill. lawmakers
By Daniel C. Vock, Stateline.org Staff Writer

In most legislatures, lawmakers vote either “yes” or “no” on bills, but in Illinois, senators and representatives can hit a third button for a “present” vote. Now that quirk — not unique to Illinois — has sparked heated exchanges among Democrats vying for president.


But Obama’s former colleagues who still serve in the Illinois Capitol say that the attacks are off-base and that either Obama’s opponents don’t understand how things work in Springfield or they are deliberately distorting his record.
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“The ‘present’ vote is used, especially by more thoughtful legislators, not as a means of avoiding taking a position on an issue, but as a means of signaling concerns about an issue,” said state Rep. John Fritchey (D), an Obama supporter.

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In Illinois, the “present” vote works as a vote against a measure during final action.

State Sen. John Cullerton (D) calls the “present” vote “a no vote with an explanation.” Legally, there’s not much difference between the two votes, but practically, it can let the sponsors or other legislators know of problems with the bill that should be corrected.

That’s not how U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) characterized it in a debate in Myrtle Beach, S.C., this week.

“In the Illinois state Senate, Senator Obama voted 130 times ‘present.’ That’s not ‘yes,’ that’s not ‘no.’ That’s ‘maybe,’” she said.

Fritchey, the House Democrat who chairs a committee on civil law, said he often used the “present” vote when he thought a bill had constitutional or other legal problems.

That’s also the reason Obama, who taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago, gave during the debate for voting “present” on a bill he originally had sponsored.

“After I had sponsored it and helped to get it passed, it turned out that there was a legal provision in it that was problematic and needed to be fixed so that it wouldn’t be struck down,” he said.

Contact Daniel C. Vock at [email protected].

[DaLittle Kitty]

42. A Real NICe Bunch of Bull Shit! A system "Enginered" To "PROTECT" Politicians... Like Barack!

:puke: Bought aND Paid for as is his other "historic" bookend competitor.

[stillcool]

48. You do not believe the Illinois legislators?

Or do you not believe anything about Senator Obama that isn't derogatory?

[JoFerret]

28. I disagree.

(Also - Sounds like Mrs Edwards is going through nasty stuff right now.)

[DaLittle Kitty]

47. Yes Chemo Can Only Make Her A Much Stronger Opponent Of The Establishment...As IS John!

May OUR Collective Prayers Be W/ Elizabeth! If these two "historical" candidates F Up Da works then I want to See John and Elizabeth Stronger than ever in 20012! We'll NEED Them!!!!!!!! :think: :)

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[Bozita]

24. Thanks for posting this.

[BeyondGeography]

25. As far as I'm concerned, Liz and John, I never could get past that IWR co-sponsor thing

but if it makes you feel better to believe we think it's more important that Barack Obama, who opposed the war from the start, is black than it is that John stood by his decision to support the war until 2005, you go right ahead now.

[DaLittle Kitty]

26. Sad To Say The Hillary Thang OR The Black Thang In OUR Nominee Is Likely to Leave Dems Once Again...

Empty Hearted and Empty Handed the day after the election this November. Were it NOT for this "FARCE" of an "HISTORIC" err MANUFACTURED Presidential Primary, WE/DEMs would have had a cakewalk in the General Election with John Edwards as our nominee... However his forthright Anti Corporatist positions could not be permitted by the powers that be... as represented by the Voice of Corporatism, The Mainstream Media Propaganda MAchine!

So we got the Corporatist choice of THREE UNDENIABLY "CORPORATIST" CANDIDATES FROM WHICH TO CHOOSE... FABULOUS! :eyes: ___ :think: THEN... :puke:

[BeyondGeography]

27. Edwards has won one whole primary in two separate attempts at the nomination

Sorry if he's a perpetual loser.

And, by the way, you didn't have your half-assed "THANG" excuse last time when he lost to Kerry. So what was the reason then? Why does John keep coming up so short?

[SammyWinstonJack]

36. He was the only candidate who polled nationally to beat ANY republican nominee.

perpetual loser HaHaHa! :eyes:

[DaLittle Kitty]

44. How Quickly Da FACTS Are Forgotten! Maybe Edwards Can Still Get it If There's A BIG Fight + The..

"So-Called "Historic Tandem" IS ... NO LONGER VIABLE AGAINST MCCAIN! :)

[cali]

56. JE is done as regards ever being president.

he's smart enough to know that you don't run after getting badly whupped two previous times. He may get appointed to something in a dem administration, but that's it. And the SDs would never ever install him as nominee with his having won all of one primarty in two runs for the nomination.

[JoFerret]

53. Oh shush already

You'll be squawking about media bias next.

[DaLittle Kitty]

54. C'mon Da Media IS What Dis IS... ALL 'BOUT! Errr Are You Krazy as A Loon NOT Ta Notice?

:puke: on the CORPORATE OWNED AND OPERATED MEDIA!!

[cali]

33. worshipping a candidate the way you do JE

is simply not healthy. Like Clinton and Obama he has his flaws. And of course it's quite delusional to think we'd have had a breeze of an election with JE as the nominee. And sorry, but polls over a year out from the GE mean nothing. zip. nada. And his hedge fund work and investing, his taking advantage of tax shelters, are quite corporatist friendly.

[DaLittle Kitty]

45. Right... Yep Looks Like We Got A Real BLOWOUT Com'n On w/ These Two... Haaaa!

How The Dems Could Take A Blowout and turn it intop a CLOSE SHAVE... is simply AMAZING! Thanks Corporate America! :)

[comrade snarky]

60. The Black Thang??????

Wow... I was giving you the benefit of the doubt right up until that.

My issue with Edwards is that his votes in the Senate don't match his current rhetoric. I don't know if he has had a change of heart since then or thinks he has a pony to ride all the way to power. Your protests not withstanding he is a politician and will "tailor" his message for the audience. I don't accept your friends assurance that he really means it. I'm afraid it will take just a little more than that.

My issue with you is that your reasons for dismissing Obama get more clear with every post. Care to talk about the woman and go for a twofer?

[onehandle]

30. I'm one of the the many that "believed Edwards would be the best Dem presidential rival to McCain"

And the polls backed me up.

[SammyWinstonJack]

39. Yep! He was the only one too beat McCain and ANY republican nominee for that matter.

[DaLittle Kitty]

50. But The Problem Was John Edwards Was Going To Be TOO Hard On CORPORATE AMERICA! THEy HAd To OUST...

John for their own good! And "THEiR"Media Did Just THAT! :puke: So WHO IS Therer That WILL ... FIGHT BACK???? (?) Hmmmm?

[cali]

57. Polls a year and more out, mean nothing. really nothing.

and there was plenty about JE for the rethugs to feast on.

[SammyWinstonJack]

40. Damn. I am too late to rec this thread so I will just kick it!

:bounce:

[DaLittle Kitty]

43. THANKS FER DA ... BOOT! Haaaa...

:)