Hillary campaigning in Valparaiso, IN..I watched

[LiberalZrule]

this today on CNN and I was impressed with Hillary...she was charming, funny, inspiring, full of hope for the future...Her impersonation was hilarious. I have seen speaches of Obama and this is the first time I had time to watch her campaign and I felt a stir in my heart. A message of hope should encourage people about the good qualities still in their life not what they are bitter about. Everyone knows this country is on the wrong track and it needs change, but I think a message about hope should lift a person up and show them that they still have integrity and dreams and hopes..not despairs, frustrations, antipaty, and anti this and anti that. She was very personal when talking about that company...I cant recall its name...which had to close in Valparaiso and the jobs were outsourced to China. I smiled when I saw that sign "Real me for Hillary".

I turned on the tv to cnn, which despite what many may think, is the BEST show on tv for news, and I saw that live broadcast I quietly sat down and watched it. I was glued to my seat. I am normally surfing the internet for many hours and down watch much television, but today I am glad I did. So what if she lied or misspoke or have a husband who cant keep his mouth shut. It is the issues that are important to me. What she is going to do for people like me that is important to me. I have grown up my entire life believing all politicians lie and so I have to vote for one who lies not the least but lies about the unimportant things. Back in 2004 there was something about Kerry I could not trust. I did not like Bush and there was no way this self respecting democrat would vote for him. But Kerry....I always trust my instincts about people and they are never wrong and my instincts about Hillary is that she will bring about change. She will bring back jobs to America. She has America first in her heart. She will fight for free health care for everyone. She will do everything she sets out in her campaign promise to do. I was sadden those many years ago when she was stopped cold by the republicans on universal health care, but it will not happen this time. Democrats have the edge in Congress this year.

I would like to contribute to her campign. I would like to donate the maximum of 2300 dollars but you see...I am one of those guys Obama was talking about that lost their job and I am not bitter...I dont have a gun...I cling to religion because the Bible is the best source of instruction on the way to live your life...and I dont hate immigrants...I am not frustrated...I am not bitter...But I cant make that donation because I am poor. I am unemployed. My dreams of the job I wanted---Network Administrator--was crushed on 911. The stock on technology burst and there were massive layoffs. It just wasn't the time I suppose. So I still had my hope...Not bitterness and Hillary puts winds underneath the wings of my hope. Hillary 08'

[GarbagemanLB]

1. Don't worry. Hillary has worked the night shift as a corporate shill for Wal Mart. She feels your

pain.

[LiberalZrule]

4. I dont care who she worked for

but let me ask you something ....How many things you own say "Made in China?"

[GarbagemanLB]

5. Let me ask you something...how do you feel about Wal-Mart's anti-union practices?

[LiberalZrule]

8. I have held jobs

that require you to join a union and in my experience they do nothing but try to cut your benefits and your wages...So if Wal-mart is anti-union that means they are keeping more money in my pocket. I noticed you did not answer my question.

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[dkf]

14. A liberal who is anti-union?

Weird.

[LiberalZrule]

29. Strange yes..but

it is how this proud democrat feels...I support social justice...slap down of corporate greed...the right to bare arms-with restrictions such as no past criminal record and no history of mental illness, gay and lesbian rights, strong stance against our enemies...return of jobs to america...anti-legislative supreme court justices-take it a step further their tenure should be limited to the term of the president who chose them...Prochoice, but I am christian I believe it is wrong and immoral but it is not my right or the goverment's right to step into what is a matter between an woman and her dr...support protection of the environment...independece of forein oil...Funding to countries when we have homeless in america...I support free health care...fair and responsible tax rates on corporations selling their wares in America-In other words if you make your product here lower taxes but if you make it somewhere else and sell in in the US higher taxes..unfair trade treaties that does not protect Americans sworkers

[dkf]

32. But don't you realize that the unions are our best hope of

achieving most of those things you claim you support?

The unions are the main organized group that can put together a collective voice for our money grubbing and self interested pols. Individuals have no power here, unless we have someone listening like Obama.

I'll tell you this...Hillary listens to unions much more than she would listen to you or me individually.

[LiberalZrule]

35. *sigh*

Okay the union i did belonged to was always in a constant fight with the corporations and they alwasy made concessions to the corporation...the industry I worked in a few years ago you would hit 20.00 hour in 5 years....the corporation forced the union to settle to a longer period of time 10 years...Another company in the same industry cut travel benefits and wages and they too had a union..so where did the union look out for me? So what did the union achieve for me and those others I mentioned?

BTW the industry was the airline industry....I knew a pilot who worked for United for 35 years and he retired during the time I worked there...then United jettisoned is pension....that man lost his pension and at 68 years old he had to get a job to make ends. So where did the union do this man any good? What did the union do to prevent United from sending this poor man in to financial hell?

[LiberalZrule]

39. unions are not

our best hope...making corporations responsible to their workers active and retired is the best hope. Unions have done nothing for me and mine. Washing has done nothing for me and mine...but I am not bitter...I still have hope.

[dkf]

42. Damn you pick the worst industries to be in.

Technology during the bubble and then airlines, who are all going bankrupt.

I don't know what to say...

[LiberalZrule]

43. I only have one person to blame

Geroge W. Bush make that two persons Dick Cheney.

[MyNameGoesHere]

57. I do not support the unions of this era.

I support the unions of my grandfather. Todays unions are not the same animal as they once were sadly.

[Bongo Prophet]

52. LiberalZrule was a zombie, and zombies can be weird. Indeed.

Gone already.

[Shae]

56. only 84 posts.

RIP. I saw some of his first posts and didn't think he'd be around long.

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[AllentownJake]

3. Dear God

They call us Kool-Aid drinkers.

Has anyone noticed that ever since she started losing they have been the more Kool-Aid types?

[AlinPA]

53. Kool-Aid? Maybe something stronger, and too much.

[babylonsister]

6. "So what if she lied or misspoke or have a husband who cant keep his mouth shut."

Huh? That's all okay with you as long as Obama isn't the candidate? I don't even know where to start with you.

Enjoy your heart stir.

[stellanoir]

7. "So what if she lied or misspoke or have a husband who cant keep his mouth shut. "

These are issues.

You didn't lose your job due to NAFTA perchance?

One can be both bitter about what's transpired in the past and hopeful about better leadership. They are not mutually exclusive.

[bigtree]

10. thanks for your perspective

It's like yelling over the jr. high school cafeteria crowd here, though.

[LiberalZrule]

12. Yes it is

A lot of post on here are so juvenile so vulgar and they are from both camps...I was merely trying to explain how I feel intelligently and passionately without hate speach and pundits and talking points and spin spin whatever. It is how I feel.

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[dkf]

11. Wow, you've been unemployed since 9/11? Wasn't that like 7 years ago?

Wow.

[LiberalZrule]

17. No

This is the situation...I moved to California and due to financial difficulty I lost my place to live and wound up living on the street. So I decided I would go to a technical school and try to get certification in Network administration...MCSE, A+, CNA...I was working out of Labor ready-to those of you who dont know what labor ready is it is a temp service for basically cleaning up construction sites-and gooing to school. It was hard. I had to keep myself presentable because various HR people from the IT industry made their rounds on campus for perspective employees. Get a job assignment that wont interfere with my school schedule..I was going to school at night making straight A's on all test.. I was half way through with the courses then one day on a Friday morning I went into Labor ready got an assignment to work at a Mall...the job supervisors never showed up so we went back to Labor ready to get another assignment...then I saw it on television...a plane crashing into the WTC. I was stunned..I could not believe my eyes. Immediately after that getting work from Labor ready was almost impossible because work dried up and that september I watched the IT industry implode on itself...my dreams of a great paying job when up in flames on wall street and NY...so I went back home to my mothers and have been working low paying jobs ever since. I have discovered I have Bipolar disorder...depression....so I am unemployable now. So my reasons for this thread is stated above. I believe Hillary can bring change for me.

[dkf]

19. I don't get what you think Hillary will do for you...are you currently

not getting health insurance for your depression?

[LiberalZrule]

21. This is another amazing thing

I see a therapist in a publically and privately funded mental health center that has a sliding scale of payment...My therapist is amazing..she has been there 20 years and she has degrees and what not. I asked her why she is there for so long...and she said she is good at what she does and she likes helping people not lining her pocket book from a private practice. Oh she supports Hillary BTW.

[dkf]

23. So why do you say you are you not employable?

And what do you think Hillary will do to change this?

[LiberalZrule]

33. Okay...

first understand I am diagnosed with Manic depression or Bipolar if you will..strange and unpredictable emotional states...and ADD...makes it hard for me to remember things on the job and follow through with tasks without forgetting anything...make too many mistakes on the job...What Hillary can do to change this is that she is for universal health care and it should included mental illness...I applaud Obama about some speach somewhere talking about autism since I have an autistic daughter...However i cannot endore Obama at this time...he needs more experience...say two more terms in the senate and he will have my vote undoubtedly.

So the above hardships make me unemployable.

[dkf]

37. Well I support Obama, but I do hope you get whatever care you need

to better your situation.

Good luck.

[LiberalZrule]

41. Thank you

you have been very respectful of me. Obama needs more supporters like you and Hillary needs more supportes like me and not the inane smashers and bashers I see a lot of on here.

[dkf]

44. I tend to be tough on Hillary but your post struck me as

heartfelt and honest and I appreciate that.

Peace.

[LiberalZrule]

46. We should be

tough on our elected representatives whether its hillary or Obama. We deserve nothing less that the best people in office that are for America and Americans. It unwillingness to keep our candidates honest that we should fear. Unwillingess to challege them when they screw up is why we deserved 8 years of our rights taken away from us. Lets keep it real. Keep it honest and may the best democrat win!

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[Binka]

16. The stock on technology burst and there were massive layoffs.

OK buddy two questions:

Is English your third language?

Are you really fucking drunk?

This is the stupidest post ever. Did you really write this:

Not bitterness and Hillary puts winds underneath the wings of my hope. Hillary 08'

She puts winds underneath the wings of your hope? I just threw up in my mouth.

[LiberalZrule]

18. Cant we have

a meaningful and intelligent discussion? Why is it just because someone supports Hillary and starts a Hillary thread they are immediately insulted and attacked? Same for Obama supporters who are attacked by Vulgar hillary supporters...you people need to go join the republican party because these small and narrowminded attacks are what republicans do best.

[Binka]

20. Ah Gee It Is 11:36 On A Saturday Night

So I will say go fuck yourself, I am done playing with you TROLL. Bye pea brain. Say hi to your momma when you get out of the basement.

[desertflamingo]

26. hmph...

YOUR mama must be so proud... NOT. i'd be so embarrassed if you were my child. YOU are a perfect example of why i will NEVER vote for obamarama. if his supports reflect his candidacy, no thanks.

[desertflamingo]

24. classic...

... obamite reply. good lord, please grow up and try not to be so nasty.

[LiberalZrule]

47. We

should just ignore those kinds of people...to listen to them gives them validity to their posts.

[desertflamingo]

22. lovely...

lovely post and i agree wholeheartedly. you're going to get slammed on this site by the obama crowd, but there are still some hillary supporters keeping up the good fight. she will be president. there will be real change as opposed to the fluffy talk from mr. hopey mcchangey (i borrowed that from someone else). she has so much more experience and fire in her belly than he. he hasn't had to fight for a damned thing and it shows. anyway, sorry to hear about your troubles but a new day is coming. stay strong and work for her - she will prevail.

[LiberalZrule]

30. I expected

being slammed by some of the Obama croud...there are even some delete messages. Those I just ignore. They are not contributing to an intelligent debate. They are only showing how limited their minds are. I also feel the same towards those who slam Obama supports...lets clean up this unforgiveable mess.

[rodeodance]

25. REC

[cooolandrew]

27. Are you sure I can't sell you bible and a gun no ok.

[TeamJordan23]

28. Good Luck gaining 160 net delegates. nm

[napoleon_in_rags]

31. Thanks 4 sharing.

Positive posts are in short supply around here. Good to hear yours.

[LiberalZrule]

34. yes it is

and this place reminds me of an article in the Chicago Tribune today talking about Democratic National Conventions use to be quite violent in 1924...shameful that nothing has changed in 84 years...we need to grow up if we want change that is good for America regardless if its Hillary or Obama.

[napoleon_in_rags]

36. Good. Well, keep it up I say.

And if these if these "Obama supporters" get you down with their talk of being "pathetic" and "desparate", just pop in some Nine in Nails and visualize them in fetish outfits. Works every time for me. ;)

[LiberalZrule]

40. Good idea...

but i think I will pop in some Meshuggah or Mudvayne...there is one line in one of their songs "...a little left of center now..." is how I feel politically.

[rodeodance]

38. Thanks for the post

[ecstatic]

45. I thought her "speach" sucked. Thanks for your concern nt

[leftofcool]

48. Very nice post. Ignore the bitter children above me

[LiberalZrule]

49. Thank you

and so far I have been able to ignore the viscious and vulgar which seems to be rampant on DU

[LowerManhattanite]

50. Another “zombie” enjoying a granite-crust slice...

...with a refreshing wet cement shake. :)

[my3boyz]

51. You should write Hillary! Perhaps she will tell your story in that sappy voice of hers

Hopefully she will "vet" the story first.

[irish.lambchop]

54. Oh my . . . you may want to

re-examine your 'instincts about people and they are never wrong' statement in a serious, introspective, honest manner.

[quantass]

55. Hilary trustworthy? Her past and current actions seem opportunistic / self serving to me. n/t

[Vinca]

58. Guess she didn't mention the jobs were outsourced to China as a

result of Clinton trade policies. Re your "Network Administrator" dreams - you can always move to India. TaTa might have an opening.