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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:48 PM
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The Snipergate lie was a LIE. How can anyone defend it?
Seriously - I'm stunned to see anyone defend this bald-faced lie that clinton repeated several times AFTER it was shown to be a lie.

Video evidence shows it was a lie. This is not debatable. How can anyone deny that it was a lie? I truly don't understand the self-delusion necessary to pretend it wasn't the lie that it was.

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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:50 PM
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1. No no no no no
She misspoke. I read it on the intertubes!!!!!!!!111111111111

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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:00 PM
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20. My kids keep telling me they have no homework.
Hate it when they misspeak to me!

;)
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:01 PM
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23. Maybe they are sleep deprived, better send them to bed earlier
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JayFredMuggs Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:50 PM
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2. No Obama supporter defends it
Edited on Sun Mar-30-08 09:51 PM by JayFredMuggs
I guess that leaves the Hillary supporters.

Who seem to keep avoiding talking about it.

EDITED TO ADD:


I think this is Hillary's final downfall.

No one will elect ANOTHER President that they know to be ready to be a LIAR, from day one!!!!
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:56 PM
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14. I wish they'd just not talk about it, but some actually say it's NOT a lie.
That's just... crazy. It's a proven lie, no debate possible, yet they still call it a "mistake".

I truly don't get it. Desperation? Denial? Delusion? How can they not see the lie for what it is?

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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:50 PM
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3. Clinton has some REALLY loyal supporters.
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JayFredMuggs Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:52 PM
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4. yeah? so? does this mean
They would have supported Bush in 2003 in his invasion of Iraq, if they knew he was lying, too?
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:52 PM
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5. One's lie is another's grand adventure...
...truth be damned!:rofl:
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:53 PM
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6. That issue was so last week ! ! ! ! ! !
Edited on Sun Mar-30-08 09:53 PM by UALRBSofL
Were on to a new scandal starting tomorrow. I'm thinking it's Obama's turn this week. I believe James Meeks needs to play this week. If you didn't get the memo they alternate weeks with scandals.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:54 PM
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8. Honesty is the latest victim of the bus, eh?
:D
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:56 PM
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13. God damn the media! They keep on swinging us around! We need to do something!
Can we threaten to boycott the convention coverage if they keep doing this? Or can the party broadcast the convention using public broadcasting of some kind? I want don't want these big media corporations profiting off of our debacle.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:05 PM
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26. "That issue was so last week!!!!!!"??????
You're a Clinton supporter, so support her.
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gal Donating Member (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:15 PM
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33. Until this campaign is finished it will continue to be a issue.
This is her credibility and should remain a issue. She lied....do I want a president that embellishes the truth? Isn't that the same thing Bush did with and why we invaded Iraq?

You can't hide this no matter how much you want to, she lied and it will remain a issue until she is out of the race.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:41 PM
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40. Yo, gal, welcome to DU!
:toast:
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:54 PM
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7. I keep asking the same fucking question:
It is a slap in the face of every veteran who have ever served under fire.

It trivializes the sacrifice every KIA veteran and their families have had to make.

She needs to get off the fucking stage.


:puke:
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:55 PM
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9. The RWRC did it!
Remember when the stories about Monica were "a conspiracy"?

Hillaryland isn't just another perspective on reality, it's a form of reality that requires absolute loyalty, and outright denial of anything that conflicts with that reality. It's a tad religious in nature, that way.

Meanwhile, in Obamaland, we get to see our candidate admit to doing something boneheaded, and not only does he admit it, but uses it to further his campaign. It's a very different way of dealing with reality.
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bilgewaterbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:55 PM
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10. Obviously, you've never had to stop a war in Northern Ireland!
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:55 PM
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11. JUST WORDS. Hillary utters MILLIONS OF WORDS, what are a couple hundred MISSPOKEN??
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:04 PM
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25. Yeah Millions of Words EVERY DAY!
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:56 PM
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12. Did you see that thread about it being like art?
Like she was just doing some story-telling to make people happy?

Utterly fucking ridiculous!!

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:57 PM
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15. That IS ridiculous.
NT!

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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:58 PM
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16. It is now my understanding that the story was absolutely true.
It's just that it happened to somebody other than Hillary.

These things happen.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:59 PM
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18. Ya, I heard that too, near the same place, another senator.....
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:59 PM
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19. LOL! Is that the new lie?
Someone should tell her that lying to cover another lie is still lying.

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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:01 PM
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22. I don't think she's saying that, but it's apparently true.
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freesqueeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:59 PM
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17. don't yall know this will damage Hillary
when she runs for NY gov?

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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:00 PM
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21. it would be better if they all just shut up and let it die.
In a week the news will have moved on and America will quickly forget. The more it's defended and explained the more pathetic it gets.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:02 PM
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24. Well then, as someone who opposes liars, I'm glad they won't shut up.
Edited on Sun Mar-30-08 10:02 PM by Zhade
I just don't understand how they can fool themselves for a liar.

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:06 PM
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27. Except that my brothers in arms are still dead in Arlington and she
lies about HER 'service under fire'.

She shit on THEIR sacrifice, every time she lied about it.

THIS IS NOT A TRIVIAL THING AND IT WILL NOT DIE.



Wait till the MSM has a couple veterans on to talk about it.

To let it go is to say service to your country in uniform is meaningless.

Hate the war, love the warrior.

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:12 PM
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30. Look just below, where another DUer is likewise shitting on their graves.
Disgusting, isn't it? A prime example of the delusion of which I speak.

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:06 PM
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28. You're obsessed with calling it a lie. What's stopping you? You want to control what others think?
Good luck.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:11 PM
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29. It is a lie. Your denial doesn't change that fact.
Can't WAIT until she accepts her loss and you have to shut the fuck up about Obama or leave DU. Less assholes supporting a liar around here will be SWEET.

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:45 PM
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42. You're real big on bossing folks around
I'm not impressed with the bullying.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:01 AM
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49. Learn basic reading comprehension. Pointing out a lie isn't bullying.
NT!

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:13 PM
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32. Ah, bigtree....
My favorite creepin' duMP'r.

:hurts:

The one thing I know about you, figtree, is that you have never served in the military.

I think you are the perfect Hillary supporter:

Blind to the truth about the bitter Half truths, lies, bullshit, intellectually corrupt wheedling, blaming, prevaricating, confabulating, foot stomping, pouting, fake tear generating, coattail riding, non-security clearance possessing Lewinski blaming position stealing Demo/neocon....ad infinitum.....


You really earn your keep, though, don't you.

Do they pay you by the post or the word??

:puke:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:20 PM
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:44 PM
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41. you're real big on the personal attacks
shows a lack of confidence in your argument
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:45 PM
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43. My argument lies dead in Arlington.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 11:59 PM
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48. Pointing out that a liar supports a liar isn't a lack of confidence.
It's an observation.

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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 11:56 PM
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46. I admire him/her because when the going gets tough
S/he is the only HRC supporter who even attempts to put a spin on the more blatant lies. All the others stay silent until they can come up with a creative new race baiting thread.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:13 PM
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31. What I find absolutely stunning are the "explanations" for her obvious "misstatements"
Ferchrissakes, if Obama was down in delegate counts, popular vote counts and overwhelming numbers of states lost like Hillary Clinton and came out with a statement like her Bosnian LIE, he would have been forced to drop out of the race in a day or two.

Imagine Obama talking about his visit to Moscow with Lugar referring to the denuclearization of the region and lying that they were under sniper attack and had to duck their heads and what the FUCK ever...oh, and he brought one of his daughters too.

The Clintons have been pathological liars for so many years and this was just another example. Not only was the delivery of her lie (all laughing and shit like some "tough broad") disgusting, but it actually cut at the heart of how the military would NOT put a First Lady and her daughter in harm's way...and for what? They would have flown her into an ongoing battle with her daughter and told her to run to the airport building? WHAT THE FUCK?


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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:16 PM
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35. Exacty right. She is pathological. And disgusting
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:21 PM
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38. It's pretty insulting - that she thinks we're too stupid to recognize the lie...
...and that the military is so stupid that they'd put the president's family in danger!

TOTAL fucking lie, and some people simply refuse to accept it (just like her loss).

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:15 PM
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34. Thankfully some of the newspaper's political cartoonists
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:17 PM
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36. It's a disease!
It's 'mis-remembering'..and it's contagious.
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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 10:32 PM
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39. I call it Paulie Shore Syndrome
Whereas there really are people that think he is funny, some people will always believe a lie even when proven to be a lie.
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Umbram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 11:53 PM
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45. Hey, buuuu-dy, why are you weazin' on Pauly? (nt)
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 11:29 PM
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44. bump
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 11:57 PM
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47. Selmagate was a lie!
See how easy that is?
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 12:02 AM
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50. Is there video evidence that proves it was?
If not, your analogy is flawed.

It was a lie. Don't like that fact? Too fucking bad.

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