I think the American people just don't trust Obama and he can't win general election....

[Greenwood]

A lot of pople are in this feel-good caught-up-in-the-moment history making thing with Obama.

The reality is, though, once folks actually exhale, take a breath, and realize the magnitude of it all....they will realize they just don't trust Obama. Result: A McCain Presidency.

Hillary is our only choice IF WE WANT TO WIN.

[MaineDem]

1. Well I disagree with you.

Thanks for your take on it, though.

[roguevalley]

91. don't trust him. all the american people. really? I wasn't asked.

the majority in the polls don't agree. jeez. speak for yourself and exhale why don't you.

[countingbluecars]

2. I think you are wrong. eom

[Cooley Hurd]

3. Go back to lifting your weights, muscle-boy...

:D

[Greenwood]

47. Well, I lift 6 days a week.....

to keep in shape.

Have you seen most people??

[Cooley Hurd]

55. You need to exercise your brain a bit more...

:D

[Greenwood]

64. I think it reflects more on you....

not a putdown because, ultimately, we are on the same team here.

But, we do have this thing called freedom of speech.

Best wishes!

[Cooley Hurd]

65. Are we? I've not seen a single positive thread from you - it's all anti-Obama...

:thumbsdown:

[Vinca]

4. I disagree, too. What on earth would possess anyone to trust

Hillary after the sniper fabrication? And I don't have to tell you what the Republicans campaign against her would be. In some ways, Bill is her greatest asset and her biggest liability.

[Clark2008]

5. Sad to say... but I don't think we'll win with either.

Get used to saying President McCain without gagging.

(I haven't mastered that, yet, myself, but I can see the writing on the wall.)

[knight_of_the_star]

79. At least we'll have Raptor Jesus

Although that's not much consolation and we do have both sides in this clusterfuck to thank for it.

So to the hardcore nutjobs on both sides I say:

[azmouse]

6. You were wrong with your first two words.

You don't think.

[Stuckinthebush]

7. This deserves a big "WTF?"

I think you have it backwards.

[cali]

8. nice of you to speak for millions of people.

and hilly is sinking her own ship. It's actually kind of sad to watch.

[Drifter]

9. They distrust Clinton more ...

My parents have NEVER voted for a Democrat. NEVER EVER.

They like Obama, and would vote for him. I asked them if they would they would vote for Hillary if she gets the nod. They said they would NEVER vote for Hillary.

Half the country will not vote for Hillary, simply because her name is Clinton.
I do not believe Obama has that against him.

Cheers
Drifter

[Connie_Corleone]

10. I don't think Poples can vote in the United States.

[Emillereid]

11. Are you kidding -- like the American people can trust Hillary after her disgusting

Bosnia lie? Yeah, I know she was sleep deprived four times and mis-remembered and mis-spoke and got caught - give me an effin break.

[Window]

12. Okay.

[BenDavid]

13. If I were one of those 527's I would make me an ad that would

show obama saying that he never attended a sermon where wright spoke any kind of words which could be perceived as hateful, biggoted or racist. Then from his "race" speech of Tuesday last showing him saying, "have I ever been in a sermon where words like this have been spoken? Yes". The BIG LIE!

do you think the rnc and the gop have something like this already planned IF obama gets the nomination?

[countingbluecars]

16. I'm sure you would. eom

[VolcanoJen]

63. I can play too!

Are you able to allow yourself to imagine Clinton as the nominee, and the attacks by the 527's she'll have to endure?

For example... her regaling crowds with the Bosnia Whopper, on split-screen with photos of John McCain enduring unspeakable horrors at the Hanoi Hilton? Oh, and that's just for starters. Please, do try to remember that the GOP has been working oppo on Hillary Clinton for at least the last several years in preparation for her "inevitable" nomination.

[JTFrog]

14. I have no idea what you're talking about.

[Raffi Ella]

15. Agreed.

When I think of Obama, who was voted the most liberal Senator, vs McCain I think the country will go with a "safe" choice, someone they know, a "moderate".

[dana_b]

17. I disagree... I believe that if the dems stick to the issues and show McCain

to be the unknowledgeable, uncompassionate candidate that he is (who is also totally lacking in innovative ideas or plans), then either dem CAN'T lose. People are sick of fear mongering. Bush's ratings are down below 25% and this guy chooses to associate himself completely with him. Foolish and dangerous.

[blonndee]

18. OR, maybe your feeling is contradicted by latest polls and the opposite is true:

Clinton Struggling With Her Likability Problem
By Bruce Drake, CQ Staff

...

But one race Obama is winning by the numbers is the favorability race whether the measure is positive/negative reactions to the two, or traits that voters like or dislike about each.

Here’s a collection of findings on this score from a range of polls:

• Obama bests Clinton among Democratic voters by margins of 15 percent to 20 percent on the traits of being “down to earth,” “inspiring” and “honest,” according to Pew. More Democrats think Clinton is “phony” and “hard to like” than they do about Obama.

<snip>

• Again Pew: Demonstrating Obama’s appeal beyond just Democrats, 70 percent of all voters say they find him inspiring, 67 percent say he is down-to-earth, and 65 percent say he is honest. More than half of Republicans agreed on the first two traits and 46 percent agreed on honesty. The figures for all voters were roughly the same as the figures for independents.

<snip>

• In a USA Today/Gallup poll conducted March 14-16, forty-four percent of those surveyed said they considered Clinton honest and trustworthy while 53 percent did not. By contrast, McCain was considered honest and trustworthy by a 67 percent to 27 percent margin, and Obama was close at 63 percent to 29 percent.

<snip>

More poll breakdowns at http://cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=5&docID=news-000002693383

[Forkboy]

88. Kick...was going to post the same thing. Though the OP and facts don't like each other.

[oregonjen]

19. I don't trust Hillary

Don't trust who she is, what she has become and the links her husband has with Bush senior. The connection with the Bush family has me nauseated to no end.

[Upton]

20. Hillary has higher negatives than Obama

that is demonstrated in poll after poll. Translation: Hillary can't win the GE.

[cliffordu]

21. You know, I finally think, you're right!!!

And his poll numbers reflect this, too.

:puke:

[blonndee]

25. Wrong. Poll numbers? Please see article linked above.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5294842&mesg_id=5294965

[cliffordu]

41. I think your poll numbers got pulled out of Hannity's butt.

[blonndee]

45. Ha! They're not my poll numbers, but keep living in bitter denial if you please.

[ChicagoRonin]

22. Explain yourself

Really. You seem to feel this is very important.

Give a concrete example of people being "caught-up-in-the-moment," explain what that means, and how it is a good or bad thing.

And also explain why Americans don't trust Obama.

[Traps]

23. Americans don't trust Hillary Clinton

In the USA Today?Gallup Poll she came in 3rd :

http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/03/27/hillary-clinton-experience-in-watching-genocide-ignored-or-just-lying-in-wait/

[lisa58]

24. I've exhaled and I feel even better about him.

[Adelante]

26. Polls I have seen show it is Hillary who has the trust deficit

Not Obama.

[Milo_Bloom]

27. Guess you missed all the latest polls... see blue turn to red.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpoll...

General Election: McCain vs. Clinton NBC/WSJ Clinton 44, McCain 46, Und 5 McCain +2
General Election: McCain vs. Obama NBC/WSJ Obama 44, McCain 42, Und 7 Obama +2


These may be the most shocking of all... Clinton puts solid blue states into play.


Connecticut: McCain vs. Obama Quinnipiac McCain 35, Obama 52, Und 9 Obama +17
Connecticut: McCain vs. Clinton Quinnipiac McCain 42, Clinton 45, Und 8 Clinton +3

California: McCain vs. Obama PPIC McCain 40, Obama 49, Und 7 Obama +9
California: McCain vs. Clinton PPIC McCain 43, Clinton 46, Und 7 Clinton +3

Washington: McCain vs. Clinton Elway Poll McCain 41, Clinton 38, Und 9 McCain +3
Washington: McCain vs. Obama Elway Poll McCain 39, Obama 45, Und 10 Obama +6

Oregon: McCain vs. Obama Rasmussen McCain 42, Obama 48, Und 10 Obama +6
Oregon: McCain vs. Clinton Rasmussen McCain 46, Clinton 40, Und 14 McCain +6

[Saturday]

28. I agree with you.

This Obama mania reminds me of the build up to war. (No, I am not equating evil war to a decent man like Obama so don't get your little feathers in a snit over that.) I am saying that the media took up the gauntlet and talked war war war 24/7 in the buildup to the war. The people responded and there were a high percentage pro war at the time. The media has, for whatever reason, chosen Obama to be the Democratic nominee and the people are abuzz with anticipation of a miracle. Then the fickle media will turn on Obama and we might get President McCain.

[Blue_Roses]

29. You say you want peace...

then why start these flamebait threads:eyes:

[TomBall Democrat]

30. You are neither invited or desired to give me my choice

Fine to have yours.

I see my your logic that you are not interested in the reasons why I SUPPORT OBAMA.

I have exhaled. And inhaled, too - that was the point!

I will NEVER support Hillary Clinton.

Not sure if I'll vote for her - if SHE STEALS THIS RACE.

But I will never, never, never, work for her.

:smoke:

[ProSense]

31. Really?

[ProSense]

32. More:

Obama Weathers the Wright Storm, Clinton Faces Credibility Problem

[Warren Stupidity]

33. It is over. The choice has already been made.

The Clinton campaign is finished. Even they know this now. It is time to stop with the attacks on our presumptive nominee and start working to get him elected.

[Hideboh]

34. I think the American people just don't trust Obama supporters

because they are so fanatic like cult believers.

[countingbluecars]

37. The cult thing

is an old talking point.

[Warren Stupidity]

60. it is rightwing bullshit

let's be clear about this.

[countingbluecars]

62. Yes

There is a lot of that piling up here lately.

[Warren Stupidity]

59. So Obama supporters are not americans?

Obama is supported by american people, by more american people than support Clinton, and in many polls by more american people than support McCain.

p.s. the Clinton campaign is over. Done. Kaput.

[TeamsterDem]

35. I love it when

People begin an argument by stating their opinion but then conclude the argument with a factual statement as if it's somehow supported by the sheer "weight" of their opinion premise. The fact is that it's merely your opinion that people don't trust Obama - an opinion belied by the polls, I might add. And it's further merely your opinion that Hillary would win the general, the latter of which is only buttressed by your preceding opinion.

What's worse, though, is that you call Obama's candidacy a "feel-good caught-up-in-the-moment history making thing" which essentially suggests that Hillary's campaign is that of a "traditional" variety. Problem, of course, is that she herself has acknowledged her candidacy is hardly traditional and is equally as "history making" as Obama's, so that suggests that if roles were reversed she'd then be open to that same criticism.

[bigtree]

36. the 'American people'?

I trust Obama.

[mopinko]

38. let it sink

[TTUBatfan2008]

39. No one trusts the Clintons either...

[Andy823]

40. And we can trust Hillary?

I don't think so. When it comes to "trust" I think Hillary keeps showing us why we "can't" trust her. The Bosnia thing was just one example of her kind of "trust"!

[Bonobo]

42. Are you LEE GREENWOOD?!

[countingbluecars]

44. LOL

Love those short shorts!

[RoadRage]

43. Actually.. i really don't trust the lady who said she took cover as bullets flew past her

and then ended up saying it was a "mis statement".

Thanks, I'll go ahead and keep on trusting the tall black guy who seems to have his shit together.

[Melissa G]

46. HA HA HA... You are so funny!!! n/t

:rofl:

[dchill]

48. So now were not even Americans...

because we support and trust Barack Obama. Thanks.

[Arugula Latte]

49. I'd dodge sniper fire on a tarmac to vote for that man. nt

[Bonobo]

50. I'm going to recommend this. Too bad DU has a spell-checker...!

It's so stupid, it's fun!

The people are overwhelmingly demonstrating the OPPOSITE of what you just posted!

[not_too_L8]

51. Flame Bait

[rniel]

52. Don't trust this guy

I think I know who this Greenwood is and he's a Rush listener and pretty much hates anyone who's not white.

[dionysus]

57. you mean it's a wyldwolf sock puppet?

:evilgrin:

[rniel]

66. yep

I had to research what you mean, but yes.

[Alexander]

75. Knowing wyldwolf, he probably has 23 sockpuppets.

:rofl:

[dionysus]

76. oh snap

[Webster Green]

53. You must be posting from Opposite World..

Everything there is 180 degrees out of phase with reality.:smoke:

[dionysus]

54. this is evidenced by what... the fact he's winning?

:shrug: hooooookay.....

[SoCalDem]

56. You are entitled to your opinion..n/t

[oviedodem]

58. Have you not read the "37%" trust america has in Hillary which is less than Obama?

[NJmaverick]

61. Let me guess Greenwood, you are out of work

Once the Hillary campaign shuts down.

[dkf]

67. Gosh, you are doing your candidate no favors by bringing up the trust issue.

Hillary's numbers on trustworthiness are awful and she significantly underperforms Obama and McCain in this area.

[Oleladylib]

68. This will all turn around in April..no problem.

[SammyWinstonJack]

69. I know I don't trust him. Edwards was our only choice IF WE WANTED TO WIN.

But as usual, we BLEW IT!

[Bigleaf]

70. Climb aboard the Obama Train. It's leaving the station and won't be stopping.

By the way, your post is:

[stevietheman]

71. Please stop the attacks on our nominee Barack Obama. n/t

n/t

[anonymous171]

72. LOOK OUT! SNIPERS!

[GoldieAZ49]

73. I know I lost all trust for Obama

when I found he had been hiding Wright intentionally since the beginning of his campaign, lying about how 'controversial' he thought his preacher is.

I have no reason to believe anything he says about his views differing from Wright.


my mom, sister and I all dropped him.

[JoFerret]

94. President Preacher-in-chief. Aaaargh!

All those r/w and dem fundies are going to love Obama when they get to hear more about his conversion moment.

As for me? Aaaaargh!

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

74. don't, errr, hold your breath, Greenwood

[Mooney]

77. Hillary Clinton is unelectable.

Hillary Clinton has always been unelectable. Obama may be a risky candidate, but nominating Hillary Clinton is an absolute, iron-clad, 1,000,000,000% certain path to a staggering, humiliating defeat of McGovern/Mondale proportions. The entire Republican party loathes her, and she will not get a single crossover vote. You need those to win a national election. Independents hate her. You need those to win an election too. Ergo, she will lose.

I am constantly amazed at how anyone who hasn't been in a coma for the last 16 years can write off the well-documented and widespread hatred and loathing that Hillary Clinton inspires in half the electorate. Whole cottage industries have been established based on Hillary-bashing, and they never fail to make a healthy profit. PEOPLE DON'T LIKE HER. She is to half the electorate what Tom DeLay is to us.

Why is this news to people?

[Greenwood]

78. Amazing that I am a bad person for supporting Hillary.....

some even say I am a GOPer and, hold on, a Rush listener. Words cannot do justice to how stunning that is. No words.

Don't think Obama can win....will vote for him if he is our nominee.....hope Hillary wins.

[Mooney]

81. I didn't say you were a bad person. I've never met you.

What I did say is that Hillary Clinton is unelectable. Sure, it's just my opinion, but I believe I have history on my side.

[Tribetime]

80. alot of people meaning mostly republicans who are scared

of facing Obama so they need to drum up non issue swiftboat attack, since they can't win otherwise. You mean those people.

[sudopod]

82. PROTIP

The whole country isn't like the South.

[Danger Mouse]

83. Whereas with Hillary...they already don't trust her to begin with...

[TK421]

84. Maybe the pople saw white smoke and took that as a signal to vote for Obama?

:shrug: just kidding

[SeattleGirl]

85. I'm an "American people" and I trust Obama. n/t

[DerekJ]

86. Disconnected from reality, are we?

"As expected, one of the two major Democratic candidates saw a downturn in the latest NBC/WSJ poll, but it's not the candidate that you think. Hillary Clinton is sporting the lowest personal ratings of the campaign. Moreover, her 37 percent positive rating is the lowest the NBC/WSJ poll has recorded since March 2001, two months after she was elected to the U.S. Senate from New York.
"

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/26/821438.aspx

Those are are facts. What you have is B.S.

[CreekDog]

87. Ms. Ferraro? How is DU treating you?

:rofl:

[MrSlayer]

89. What a joke. Hillary has zero chance to win the general.

She has never had a chance to win it. Never. People hate Hillary with a passion usually reserved for cop-killers, even people in our own party. Again, Hillary would bring out the haters to vote against her, the people that dislike McCain and would have been happy to stay home will come out in force. The Independents will go McCain over her and all those new Democratic voters stay home instead. Obama is hated by no one except racists and Hillary super supporters and people are ready for something new. Both Clinton and McCain represent the old way and Obama is the future. We really should have nominated Edwards, he would have won easily, but as it is Obama is our only chance to win in November. It's no guarantee by any means but he has a good chance whereas Hillary has no chance.

[dansolo]

90. But they already don't trust Hillary

You are basing this supposed lack of trust on what exactly? I would use trust as a determination, because Hillary has much more serious trust issues. The reality is that when people see how vacuous McCain's campaign is, they will not vote for him.

[OzarkDem]

92. He's a stranger to the voting public

He's an unknown quantity with no experience, record or gravitas.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

93. "...aaand I'm PROUD2BAMURKIN!!..."