Did FDR ever compliment Hitler?

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

During the Second World War, when FDR was talking to Americans about the importance of defeating Nazi aggression, did he ever offer up such observations as, "But, of course, Hitler truly loves his country and devoted to its interests" or "Hitler served his country bravely in World War I."

Just wondering...

[MonkeyFunk]

1. You're comparing John McCain to Hitler?

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

5. Of course not...

Hitler had this adorable little moustache...

[invictus]

15. The comparison would be accurate.

Both are probably mentally ill and have grandiose ideas of war and military conquest. The difference is that McCain is constrained by the American Constitution and people whereas Hitler had free reign in post-Great Depression, post-Wilhemine, militaristic Germany.

[Unsane]

31. lame

McCain would have advocated genocide?

[invictus]

53. No gas ovens, but I can imagine McCain using nuclear weapons pre-emptively or carpet-bombing civilia

civilian areas. As I mentioned in the previous post, McCain is constrained by the American system. He could conceivably commit genocide through nuclear weapons or massive American military might and spin it in the media as "The Global War on Terror."

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

56. If you live in Tehran, you might ponder that question...

[BigDDem]

2. Maybe you could do some research and let us know

www.google.com

[Minimus]

3. piss poor analogy

[Ishoutandscream2]

4. Certainly, that would never had come out of FDR's mouth

At least publicly. FDR was really never neutral toward Nazi Germany; he recognized we'd be fighting one another eventually.

[redqueen]

6. Are there more horrendous analogies around here lately

or am I just noticing them more?

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

8. I think the quanity and quality of our horrendous analogies has increased...

It's inversely proportionate to the Housing Market.

[Arkansas Granny]

7. I know what comparison you are trying to draw and there is none. Give it up.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

9. I'm just saying...

When somebody is your enemy, you don't spend a lot of time (on a nearly daily basis) offering compliments and platitudes.

I suggested several weeks ago that McCain did a classy thing in rebuking Bill Cunningham for his comments at a rally in Cincinnati before the Ohio Primary, and I got my head chewed off on this board.

But Bill Clinton can be McCain's BFF and nobody seems to care?

[Arkansas Granny]

11. John McCain will be the opponent of the Democratic nominee, not an enemy.

[invictus]

16. McCain is an evil man with fantasies of war and murder.

He is, as one Republican Senator said, "unhinged" and "cannot be trusted with nuclear weapons."

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

19. He's the enemy...

When Japan killed 2,403 American troops at Pearl Harbor, we considered them an enemy.

The McCain Administration will result in at least that many troops dead in Iraq -- more if he serves two terms and makes an eight-year down payment on his "100 years in Iraq" promise. Add to that the further erosion of our civil liberties and the increasing control of our government and society by corporate special interests.

If you don't think McCain is the enemy, then you haven't been paying attention.

[Zynx]

36. Bad healthcare policies have killed way more than 4,000 Americans.

Do I call politicians who oppose healthcare reform "Hitler"?

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

40. Go For It...

And as I said elsewhere on this thread, it's a fucking analogy. As in, not to be taken literally.

[Zynx]

42. It's a terrible analogy, with all due respect.

[MadBadger]

10. This OP is disgusting.

[invictus]

17. Praising someone like McCain is disgusting. Hillary should be ashamed of herself. n/t

[MadBadger]

18. You think the comparison of McCain to Hitler is just?

Also is it disgusting to commend McCain for his service to the country?

[invictus]

20. McCain served America by dropping bombs on civilians in an illegal war?

You realize that is what he did during the war. He dropped bombs on civilian infrastructure (i.e. bridges, power plants) in densely populated areas in N. Vietnam during the war. The man is callous and he will kill more if he becomes president. He said to an audience "there will be many more wars, my friends." The man loves to kill. You can see it in his eyes. He is angry and unhinged. He admitted that he wanted to keep American in Iraq for 100 years.

[MadBadger]

27. You need to be fair here than and call Obama out too.

Thats the point im trying to prove.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

30. Specifics?

nt

[MadBadger]

32. Havent you seen the speeches where Obama commends McCain's 50 years of service?

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

38. That's a pleasntry...

It's the sort of thing you say to appear polite. Going out of your way to make repeated and quite pointed praise of your opponent is another thing entirely.

It gives the impression that Hillary is angling for a job in the McCain Administration.

[MadBadger]

43. Look, I think Hillary went well over the line with her fawning over McCain

I just think you are wrong to compare him to Hitler, and then say that commending his service by anyone is awful, but dismiss Obama doing it as just pleasantries.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

50. Look at the blog that you posted....

and the context of Obama's remarks. In a civil discussion, one always tries to make a compliment toward one's opponent ("My Esteemed Opponent" rather than "That Incredible Butthead"). Clinton and her surrogates have gone over the line in their fulsome praise of John McCain, and it's starting to make people (like me) wonder if they have some endgame in mind here. Specifically, to bloody Obama so much that even if he's elected, he'll lose to McCain, leaving Hillary with an opportunity to say, "I told you so" and run again in 2012.

[MadBadger]

52. We agree on that point.

[MadBadger]

39. A Speech I was at in Madison, "John McCain is an American hero. We honor his service to our nation"

http://wokeuptoday.blogspot.com/2008/02/barack-obama-madison-wisconsin-feb-12.html

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

44. The full quote...

"John McCain is an American hero. We honor his service to our nation. But his priorities don’t address the real problems of the American people, because they are bound to the failed policies of the past."

More quotes from that speech:

"Senator McCain said the other day that we might be mired for a hundred years in Iraq, which is reason enough to not give him four years in the White House."

"Somewhere along the road to the Republican nomination, the Straight Talk Express lost its wheels"

Obama uses a compliment as a preface to talk about how McCain is wrong. Clinton uses a compliment to McCain to talk about how Obama is wrong.

[MadBadger]

45. This is completely ridiculous that we are having this fight

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

51. I accept your apology

:rofl:

I'm only about 40% serious here...

[invictus]

54. Excellent point!

"Obama uses a compliment as a preface to talk about how McCain is wrong. Clinton uses a compliment to McCain to talk about how Obama is wrong."
-Jeff

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

23. Service to his country?

McCain was a fuck-up whose colossal incompetence was continually swept under the rug because his father and grandfather were both Rear Admirals.

His military record is pretty much the equivalent of George W. Bush's record as a businessman.

[MadBadger]

26. Hey, I'm just paraphrasing what Obama said about McCain.

[Drachasor]

55. /signed

[BigDDem]

12. I guess this is the "new politics"

I've been hearing so much about.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. Wouldn't Herbert Hoover, Wendell Wilkie, Or Thomas Dewey Be Hitler In This Analogy?

~

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

14. I hadn't really thought it through in quite that degree of detail

nt

[Unsane]

22. detail? it's common sense.

[Jed Dilligan]

24. .

:spray:

[Unsane]

21. Wow, how fucking dumb.

McCain is Hitler now?

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

25. Speaking of fucking dumb...

It's an analogy. A comparison. It's not meant to be taken literally.

The point here is that when somebody is your enemy, you typically don't spend a lot of time praising him. Which makes one wonder about the motivation of the Clinton Campaign.

[Unsane]

28. It is a stupid anology that only hurts your cause.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

29. I'll take that under advisement the moment I get a cause

Thanks for playing...

And you might want to have somebody check out that enormous rod you have up your butt.

[Zynx]

37. Making a Hitler comparison automatically discredits an argument, you should know that.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

33. There we have it: Godwin's law!!! n/t

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

48. Compliments to Tojo? To Mussolini?

Did LBJ compliment Ho Chi Minh?

Did Ali compliment Frazier?

Yankees and Red Sox fans ever engage in group hugs?

[Tommy_Carcetti]

57. "You know, Hitler had pieces of flair he made the Jews wear..."

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

60. OK... You Stumped Me, Dammit...

Where's that from?

[Tommy_Carcetti]

61. ^^Office Space^^ n/t

[Renew Deal]

34. Yes, he said he had a handsome mustache.

:silly:

[DemzRock]

35. Any time you bring up Hitler, it is likely a bad comparison, but before

the war, in the early 30's, it is quite possible that FDR might have said something positive about Adolph. Who knows. I'm not wasting my time researching it. But many Americans, including W's grandad supported AH. That wasn't so bad until it was clear that AH was a freaking nuts warmonger. But when was this clear exactly? I would say, when he invaded Poland.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

46. I don't want to get into a historical debate...

But you might want to Google the phrase "Krystal Nacht."

There were a couple of clues earlier than 1939.

[DemzRock]

47. Yeah, you're right. But when is the absolute cut-off when people should have

cut off any kind of support for him?

I'm thinking when he starting to make war on our allies.

[Freddie Stubbs]

41. Wow, the thread was Godwined in the OP

[flowomo]

59. LOL... exactly what I was thinking....

It's like saying BINGO! after the first number is called. You're supposed to let the game on a while before you say that... or the discussion go on a while before someone says, "Hitler!"

[gasperc]

49. worth googling the tubes have the answer

[invictus]

58. Considering how much blood the Republicans and their DLC allies are responsible for spilling ...

... the comparison to Hitler is accurate. No, McCain will not build gas ovens, but I can imagine McCain using nuclear weapons pre-emptively or carpet-bombing civilian areas and spinning it in the media as part of "The Global War on Terror." McCain has promised "many more wars, my friends." People need to wake up. The war we see on TV is not a video game and or movie of the week. Real human beings are being killed and our politicians and tax dollars are responsible for it. Anyone with a conscience should not vote for someone who will continue this crime against humanity or compliment him on his "experience."

[theboss]

62. I like John McCain...so piss off

I'm not going to vote for him in this election, but I don't hate him. There are a number of Republicans that I respect and sort of like.

You're an idiot and would be better off on a hate site.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

63. You're a fool...

who swallowed the "Straight Talk Express" Kool-Aid and went back for seconds.

McCain will kill thousands of U.S. Troops and hundreds of thousands of Iranians Civilians if given the chance, but you "sort of like him."

Maybe you should be at a hate site...