Simple Explanation for Why Passportgate is More Stupidity than Conspiracy

[alcibiades_mystery]

Three separate breaches, three separate morons caught

All morons caught the same way.

If conspiracy, wouldn't morons have changed their methods to avoid being caught times two and three?

This is nosy-bodies fulfilling a personal curiosity, and little more.

[Colobo]

1. Look at the dates they did it.

There's a pattern there.

[slinkerwink]

2. exactly.

[Muttocracy]

13. can you explain the pattern

what I read earlier sounded like people were looking during early in the primary season, but I don't see how that can distinguish curiosity (who's this guy in the news, or even who's this Muslim guy I read about in that email) vs. an organized conspiracy which would also be active at the same calendar time.

[wisteria]

3. There is only one way to get into the files. n/t

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. Occam's Razor.

OTOH -- the timing is a bit suspicious. I'm not assuming anything right now, either malice or incompetence. It could be either.

[angie_love]

5. Why weren't the names of the individuals released then? Something smells

and downplaying it will not make it go away.

[grantcart]

6. your right it would take a single access and then they would copy the file

[Tribetime]

7. thanks for clearing that up..I'm glad that's settled now

[SunsetDreams]

8. not so fast...

3 separate morons caught all the same way.

1st moron caught, fired

2nd moron knew it was illegal after 1st moron fired, but did it anyway

3rd moron knew 2 were fired for it, and did it anyway.

It is not curiousity at that point.

[anamandujano]

19. In the Bush administration, incompetence is rewarded. Most likely

all three are getting promotions, reference Condi Rice.

[anamandujano]

9. I suspect someone is trying to create sympathy for Obama.

They wanted to be caught.

[angie_love]

11. your stupidity knows no bounds.

[anamandujano]

22. Look who's talking.

[angie_love]

26. it is a fact that your post is extremely stupid. live with it.

[anamandujano]

37. Apparently you can't live without it.

[angie_love]

38. yes I can, ignore, bye.

[anamandujano]

42. Now I can regularly talk to her and she won't know what I'm saying.

Sounds like a good deal.

[thewiseguy]

46. seems like you have too much time on your hands!

[anamandujano]

49. Did somebody say something?

[anamandujano]

45. Can you hear me now?

:(





























:rofl:

[thewiseguy]

12. Don't you just get tired of writing nonsense?

[anamandujano]

25. Welcome to DU.

Does that answer your question?

[wileedog]

31. Of course

People regularly want their careers ruined to highlight a minor blip in a primary campaign.

Wouldn't you?

[anamandujano]

41. Check this out.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5185141&mesg_id=5185141

[Forkboy]

44. You would.

[anamandujano]

47. Don't get me started Fork. You know you always lose.

Just kidding. How ya doin? :hi:

[Forkboy]

63. Don't act like we're friends...we're not.

[thewiseguy]

10. And no one alerted the supervisors!

[TheDoorbellRang]

14. OMC made a very good point on another thread

Three separate breaches, three separate morons, ok. But why did every one of these morons, who were allegedly just being nosy, look at Obama's file and no other? Why not poke into someone else's file, too, while they were at it? It's too much of a stretch to assume that al three were curious about Obama only and no one else.

[angie_love]

15. exactly!!!!!!!!!!! thank you!

[Muttocracy]

17. do we know they only looked at that one? not doubting you, just asking

since I hadn't heard that.

[thewiseguy]

23. If they had they would have said it by now

[Muttocracy]

29. which they, media or State Dept.? nt

[anamandujano]

30. They release what they want us to know. We're talkin Rove here for chrisakes!

[SunsetDreams]

24. are we hearing them talk about any other

candidate?

[Muttocracy]

34. no, but I thought this was about more than just candidates

(they could have looked at Al Gore's or whatever) and I'm not sure if you mean "them" as state dept. or as media?

[SunsetDreams]

18. exactly!!!

plenty of passports and they chose to look at Obama's.....hmmmm

[mrreowwr_kittty]

39. Probably because they've been digging up crap on Clinton for years

And have now turned their full attention on Obama, since he's been doing well. I don't buy the "curious freelancer" story at all. I think it was a deliberate effort. But I think it was the Republicans. It's their M.O. From Watergate, to sniffing Bill Clinton's travels, to this, it has all the hallmarks of the GOP.

[anamandujano]

51. Thank you.

[Sulawesi]

66. If they were republicans, why not look at HRCs files as well?

[alcibiades_mystery]

67. Ooooops...there goes that objection...

:shrug:

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. You do know the contractor is DynCorp

you also know they are tied by the hip to the NEOCON faction of the GOP.

Looks innocent, by design

[anamandujano]

Jeez, I'm having a deja vu here. Seriously, I feel like I was in this thread

a few years ago.

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. Well, perhaps you should realize truly

who is workign for who, Consular services used to be Guv'ment run, but was privatized

Now you were, symbolically. And that was 1991, when State looked at Clinton's passport files too... you telling me that it was not political either?

Wrong party though to think that it was the Dems.

Connect some dots

[anamandujano]

50. I couldn't agree more.

I didn't know it was privatized.

[nadinbrzezinski]

54. I learned that myself today, and DYNCORP has the contract

they might be Mercs, remember they ran a lot of the crap at abu ghraib, but last thing hey need is a dem in charge. If that happens there might be charges.

So you get your opposition research now, kind of preventive to.

[anamandujano]

58. Me tired. I can't keep up with the Repukes.

[nadinbrzezinski]

64. Yeah but right now we are seeing a lot of sand in eyes

and shooting my foot off instead of keeping eye on price

Personally I don't like either democrats, but hell, will hold nose and vote for either, since they SHOULD be better than the current corruption... but we sill need to connect dots

[ProgressiveEconomist]

20. And Nixon's Watergate was "just a third-rate burglary"

Until some reporters did some digging and stumbled upon a knowledgable source they called "Deep Throat".

This has happened BEFORE--see the GDP thread at http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5181535

[Cha]

56. Riiiiiiiiiight! We'll find out(maybe)

if this goes deeper than curiousity worth getting fired over.

[Patsy Stone]

21. Were they curious about other people?

Did they also check into rock stars and celebrities, or were they each just HUGE Obama fans? At the moment it seems that three separate people all decided to check the same file, by some goofy coincidence, and that smells.

[joshcryer]

27. Exactly, it was curious individuals, statistically Obama supporters, nothing more.

If you were really trying to get info about a candidate you wouldn't do it via such easily caught means, and you certainly wouldn't do it three whole times.

Once is enough.

[SunsetDreams]

32. So how did the Bill Clinton

passportgate turn out back in 1992?

didn't they trace that to the Bush admin?

[angie_love]

33. I heard on the news that the ppl who snooped were REPUGS!

Not obama supporters, nice try.

[SunsetDreams]

36. that's what I heard too

[anamandujano]

55. Therefore not Clinton. (Can you hear me noooooooow?)

[dailykoff]

57. Not necessarily.

n/t

[Johnny__Motown]

28. Ever hear of a Presidential Pardon? They don't care if they get caught anymore.

[SunsetDreams]

35. you got that right

[The_Casual_Observer]

43. Olbermann is no doubt pushing this really hard.

[UALRBSofL]

48. Maybe so but you never know

Politics makes people do crazy things.

[FrenchieCat]

52. No.....I don't buy this. There is no evidence that it was "curiousity"

except for that being the excuse.

I'm charitable at times, but I'm not stupid.

The State department also told me that Iraq had WMDs. I didn't buy that either.

[Cha]

59. And I'm wondering if whomever did this

would have really wanted it to come out and put such a halt to the Pastor Wright insanity on m$$$$m?

[anamandujano]

61. Cui bono, Bama.

[dailykoff]

53. And when the Clinton connection comes out

don't forget to tell us it's all be a big misunderstanding.

[anamandujano]

60. Do us all a favor and hold your breath.

[angie_love]

62. Hey, remember when that SOMALI picture of Obama came out and no one knew where it came from?

Something smells really really fishy.

[Cha]

65. Yeah, and who was the Black congresswoman(hilary supporter)

who was talking on some show about it?