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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:20 AM
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When you have affairs on your Wife is that showing respect
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 12:20 AM by gabeana
for women, I see on another post that Obama and his supporters are being lumped in as misogynist because Wright called natalie Holloway a white girl, therefore this has rubbed off on Obama, Guilt by association. Using that logic I guess it goes for Hillary also, I mean how is her judgment it doesn't seem like Bill has shown much respect for women throughout the years and Hillary's still with him.

Two can play at this game, right now on this board that what seems like just a game
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:23 AM
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1. You could also ask what message she is sending to her daughter...
That it is okay for your husband to cheat on you as long as you plan to use him for your own personal gain later.

I thought Hillary was supposed to be a feminist.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:24 AM
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2. Blame the victim...
Why do Obama supporters feel obligated to hate women?
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:27 AM
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9. Hows it hating women
Maybe its Bill who has the problem with hillary, did with all his philandering, using women, and Hillary still stays with him

By the way I thought Hillary was a fighter how can she be a victim, be consistent
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:35 AM
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18. You sound like the GOP in the 90s
Attacking a woman because her husband had an affair.....

Do the math Einstein.
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:38 AM
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22. answer the question. How can you be a fighter and a victim at the same time?
Equal rights = Equal responsibility
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 04:03 AM
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53. So, because Lance Armstrong lost a ball to cancer, he can't be a fighter for a cure?
He was victimized by the disease. He fights for more research, funding, a cure.

Are you also suggesting that victims of crime can't champion for safer streets? Victims of child abuse can't fight for social programs to combat that?


That head of yours is wedged far up there, I guess....
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:40 AM
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26. you mean like you RW Hillary fans
with your newsmax, fox news, the irony
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:37 AM
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20. Why do Hillary supporters hate black men?
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:24 AM
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3. I don't really care one way or the other
but the way these Faux outraged Hillary supporters act you would think Obama said these words himself
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:24 AM
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4. I don't really care one way or the other
but the way these Faux outraged Hillary supporters act you would think Obama said these words himself
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:27 AM
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10. So, I see. If husband cheats, it's wife's fault. Couldn't possibly be
man's fault, right?
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:31 AM
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13. Where is Hillary's judgment in staying with him
I'm just stacking the cards in the same manner Hill supporters are with Obama and the pastor

Hypocrisy sicks when you get called out on it
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:33 AM
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16. She can stay with him or not.
It's her decision.
If your husband were cheating on you, then it'be your decision on whether to leave him or not.
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:36 AM
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19. So then why is Obama a misogynist
by some on this board because of something his pastor said, and Hillary gets a free pass with Bills lack of respect for women
I'm just pointing out the double standard on this board
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:39 AM
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24. Why does Hillary hate women?
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:27 AM
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11. The idea that women are obligated to leave philandering husbands is not
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 12:30 AM by Kurt_and_Hunter
feminism. Wives get to DECIDE that sort of thing for themselves.

That's feminism.

Feminism is about choices, not substituting one neurotic busy-body orthodoxy for another.

Time was, women had to stay married no matter what. Today they can chose.

Your line of argument is like criticizing a woman for not having an abortion because she has the option.
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:32 AM
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14. Did bill show respect for women by having numerous affairs?
yes or no
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:25 AM
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5. It's guilt by lying. He said he hadn't heard any of that stuff.
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:40 AM
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27. And you have proof that he did? Wow, even "Newsmax" doesn't have that.
Can I see it? PLEEEEEAAAAASSSSSSSSEEEEEEEE!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:25 AM
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6. nice how you feel so free to judge the marriages of others
and Wright didn't just call Natalee Holloway a white girl, he basically inferred that the murdered girl was a slut
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:26 AM
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7. There you go.
I guess you are of the opinion that wives are responsible for their husband's cheating.
Figures.
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:27 AM
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8. I'm so sick of this crap, it needs to end soon. people are dying in a senseless war and
and this place is bastian for fake outrage about wright ain't white gate. it's truly pathetic.
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:29 AM
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12. None of Hillary supporters
care about those women Bill played with, don't they have feelings, or are they just disposable
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:57 AM
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40. Take your weird sex problems elsewhere
We get it. You think sex is intrinsically a defilement of womankind, and that all women are passive victims in consensual relations.
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:59 AM
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42. So its the womens fault, okay Dr. Laura
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:32 AM
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15. Well, I didn't like the message that either occurrences sent to my daughters....
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 12:33 AM by FrenchieCat
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:34 AM
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17. When Hillary cheats on her wife your ethically incoherent OP will make sense
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:38 AM
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21. It makes total sense your probably not that bright
don't blame me for that
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:47 AM
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34. buh-bye
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 12:50 AM by Kurt_and_Hunter


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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:52 AM
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36. Thats all you got
I'm not a troll been here since 2004, I must have hit close to home, you not being bright and all

you can dish it out but can't take it
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:01 AM
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48. I have to agree
I do feel bad for your students
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:01 AM
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49. What irony. K&H is undoubtedly one of the brighter and more
thoughtful posters here? You? Hmph. And your OP is petty and whining. Hate that crap.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:38 AM
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23. It would be dirty pool for a Democrat to do it, but if Hillary were able to make it to the GE...
she would most certainly be labelled as Bill's Doormat
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:40 AM
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28. Oh yea right.
You seriously think McCain would want to go into Bill's cheating?
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:39 AM
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25. Hillarys judgement is suspect
Its well researched she wasnt completely shocked about Monica, she had known since Bill was governor he played around on her.

But she stayed with him out of her desire to stay near the reigns of power, a power she wanted eventually for herself.

That tells me all I need to know about her judgement.

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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:41 AM
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29. Well Obama stayed in the church for 20 years.
Does it tell you anything about his judgement?
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:43 AM
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30. How long has Hillary been married to Bill , 30yrs?
see two can play this game
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:56 AM
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45. Why do you like games?
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:44 AM
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32. Does it tell you anything about his judgement?
There were real victims of Bill's affairs.

Who was directly victimized by the words of Wright?

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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:47 AM
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33. So, now words are just words...
Can you have it both ways?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:03 AM
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50. How the hell do you know why she stayed with him?
You don't.
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:44 AM
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31. "on your wife?" If it's a three-way then all bets are off. If you're sitting in judgement on
other people's marriages of which you have no right to? That's another.

Most estimates say that approximately 80% of marriages will go through the infidelity of at least one spouse.

If you are very far past childhood, someone has cheated on you, so put that little finger away. You have no place judging the marriages of others.

Holloway wasn't cheated on, she was killed. Pull your head out. Wright singled her out as worthless because she was WHITE. Fuck his game and fuck yours.
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:49 AM
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35. No he didn't single her out because she was worthless
its because for too long people of color especially women of color have been forgotten,


And this is not solely about Hillary it is also about the women that Bill had the affairs with, what they don't count?

I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy, I mean the only woman that counts is the one running for president?
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:53 AM
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37. If anyone lets a bigot like you teach politics anywhere (as your bogus profile claims)
then God help us all.
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:56 AM
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39. you jealous
you don't even know how to use the word bigot, and guess what I am a very popular professor, and you know what my mentor is one of strongest greatest feminist scholar on the west coast,

nothing i said was bigoted, I just called you out and you can't take it
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:02 AM
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43. "I am a very popular professor"
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 01:03 AM by Kurt_and_Hunter
If that's the case you need to quit drinking. You are making a spectacular ass of yourself.

I don't normally criticize people for being semi-literate because it's elitist and snide, but since you're a "very popular professor" it's appropriate to observe that your posts read like ransom notes.
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:05 AM
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44. coming from someone who doesn't even know how
to apply the word bigot, if I was you I wouldn't mention the word literate, by the way I also teach ethnic studies
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:58 AM
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47. I am sorry for your students.
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 09:30 AM
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54. Why feel sorry for somebody getting a top notch education
I tell my students your getting my point of view from my experiences, that sometimes I'm wrong and don't take everything I say as gospel, you need to find what you percieve to be the truth to be for yourself. What I am offering is a foundation

What I find amusing is that I'm not the one who gets personal, I just react, It seems to be trend on this board.
A poster calls out an insult someone reacts, then the one who started it gets bent, more often than not this applies to Hillary supporters.
I didn't start it but I'll finish it
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:54 AM
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38. If I had an affair ON my wife, she'd probably punch me or something...
I don't think she'd be OK with that.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 12:57 AM
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41. She might be into it!
;-)
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 01:58 AM
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46. I've NEVER had an affair on my wife!!!!
Why? What did you hear?

:P
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jconner27 Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:08 AM
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51. Obama supporters=GOP
Geez you could saved yourself the time just cut and paste something from Drudge back in 98.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:22 AM
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52. Bizarro world.


Could it be the Guinness? :toast:
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