Clark blasts 2000 Florida voter purge

[giantrobot_2000]

http://clark04.com/story/57/

"In the year 2003, as far as we've come, we are far from the fundamental ideal of 'one person, one vote.' Today, it's only one person, one vote if you live in the right county. And if you vote at the right machine. And if your name happens to be on the rolls," said Clark. "Well, last I checked, there was no 'if' in the 15th Amendment. One person one vote isn't just a slogan -- it's the highest law of this land. As president, I will not rest until every single American can cast their vote, and every single one of those votes is counted. We shouldn't have to wait for another Florida to fully fund election reform."

[Democrats unite]

1. It will be a pleasure saying President Clark

The time is nearing.

[LibertyorDeath]

2. Man I like this guys attitude. I watched him literally eat a faux

talking head for lunch.

He is Rove's constant nightmare he would decimate bush in a debate and annihilate him in the election.

[BobbyJay]

4. Yeah I remember he started screaming at that guy

I was like LOL

[LibertyorDeath]

13. I wouldn't say screaming it implies he was out of control and

just the opposite was true. He was forceful & honest he would not back down a quality I admire. He wiped the floor with that lying self righteous fuck.

You can stand me up at the gates of hell but I won't back down...

[BobbyJay]

16. I didn't mean it negatively.

Those guys need some screaming. You almost have to scream to be hear dover their propaganda.

[mermaid]

3. Right ON!!!!

Spot on for Clark. this is why I still like him as a VP candidate.

Not as Pres, though...his Repuke history is still worrisome to me.

He is not a pure Democrat...that is to say, a lifelong Democrat. His entire lifetime, up till about 1988, was in firmly supporting Repukes...Repukes like Rummy, Cheney, et al who are NOW in power...Clark supported them and voted for them in previous Administrations prior to '88.

[BobbyJay]

5. I dont know, IMO military men (especially generals) are non-political

To say he's a "Republican" just because he voted for Reagan is pushing it. I wouldn't say he was anything. He voted the military issue, it was his career.

[giantrobot_2000]

6. ...

ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

He sure sounds like a dyed-in-the-wool Republican, doesn't he? Closing corporate tax loopholes, voting rights, anti-war, wants to cut the Pentagon's budget by 15%-25%? Health care for every American child, strict enforcement of environmental regulations, Republican issues, all.

If you're going to get caught up in the adolescent "purism" game, go vote for Nader. It will save you a lot of time.

[Bombtrack]

9. I'm sure they believe that he must be lying about his platform

And that he must be planning on firing all his former Clinton and Gore and Gephardt and Tip O'Neil aid staff, and replacing them with the editorial board of the national review

[Bombtrack]

7. So is Arianna Huffington not a worthy liberal columnist?

Was Reagan not a pure conservative?

You're point is empty and rediculous

Clark was not firmly supporting republicans. He was not a registered republican and he voted for democrats in other offices.

And 15 years of voting for democrats for president isn't exactly the "overnight transformation" that people who are attacking him for this present.

[Democrats unite]

8. They are attacking him because he is the one that will...

Beat Dean!

[NV1962]

11. ...and finish crushing Bush.

:)

[Name removed]

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[0rganism]

24. You know full well what s/he meant

Flaming someone for grammar when you can easily understand what they mean is... low. So what if someone makes a few typos or miscasts an apostrophe, address their ideas anyway.

You'd hope that others would give you the same courtesy, I'm sure.

[Dookus]

27. ahh....

a good old fashioned spelling flame. The last refuge....

[lurk_no_more]

34. Does anal retentive have a hyphen?

” JAFO”

[mermaid]

19. I Don't Know

After all...officially, she is an Independent...ran as a Repuke for Calif. Governor...but I do agree with a lot of her columns.

I wouldn't support Huffington for Pres. And I'm not supporting Clark for Pres...for largely the same reasons...his Democratic credetials are questionable.

Texas, where I now live, does not require you to state your party, on your voter Reg. But you only get to vote in one primary...you choose when you get there.

Kentucky, where I used to live...I was registered as a Repuke. Why? simple. The Dems were almost always unopposed in the primaries...and this way, I could engage in party-raiding, by voting for the guy I thought would be the easiet to beat.

I was registered Repuke so that I could fight behind enemy lines when a Kentucky resident. But in my heart, I was always a Dem...and I have never voted for a Repuke for higher office than dog-catcher.

I even refused to give my vote of confidence to Kay Baley Hutchinson, when she ran unopposed here in Texas last time out. After all, she is STILL a Repuke. And I won't vote for a Repuke!

[Bombtrack]

45. she ran as an independant, and she even had a section on her sight

where she acknowledged how similar her and the GREEN candidates platforms were.

she also blasted Cruz's cred for his lieberman support

[PsN2Wind]

57. You misspelled

credentials and Bailey and easiest but we'll forgive you.

[SayitAintSo]

14. So did I ... What of it ? I don't consider myself any less a Dem

You need to rethink that line of thought. You have no right to qualify who you think is a true Dem based on when they came to the party. That's just plain wrong headed.

[mermaid]

20. Yeah...but...

YOU aren't asking for MY support in a Dem. Primary to be President, either.

If you were, I would not give it to you...and for the same reason I will not give my support to Clark.

Dean '04!!! A REAL Democrat for Prez!!!

[BobbyJay]

28. So? Was Clark a politician back then?

[SayitAintSo]

88. Balony

n/t

[Gloria]

77. Let's get this crap about his "Repuke history" straight for once & for all

...as well as his stance on Iraq and his being "fired".....
Elizabeth Drew is highly esteemed....when real journalists were allowed on TV I used to watch her on various shows faithfully....

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/16795


Volume 50, Number 18 · November 20, 2003
Feature
Waiting for the General
By Elizabeth Drew

snip

If one looks over his statements, one is struck by how often Clark refers to the damage caused by Bush both to civil liberties and to the American tradition of dissent. In his first major speech after he announced his candidacy, given at the Citadel in South Carolina, he said,

"The administration has done many wrong-headed things. One of the worst has been to try to define patriotism as agreement with the current administration.... No president has the right to define patri-otism. No president has the right to drape himself in the flag of patriotism and then demean those who would speak out against him."

Last March, while he was still appearing on CNN as a military analyst, he was interviewed on CNN's Newsnight with Aaron Brown, just after Michael Moore had delivered one of his tirades against the Bush administration, in particular its policy in Iraq. When asked by Brown how he would respond, Clark replied, "People in the military not only respect dissent, they expect dissent.... That's democratic, let's have it out." Dissent over Iraq, he said, "should be directed at the policies of the government, not the troops fighting the war." The fact that parts of the antiwar movement during the Vietnam War not only opposed government policy but attacked the soldiers as well was, he told me, a factor in his voting Republican at the time. He also felt then that the Republicans would do more to build up US national security forces than the Democrats would.

Clark showed his inexperience with the political press and its propensity to pounce on any seeming contradiction when, on a plane on the second night of his campaign, he engaged in the type of unguarded, freewheeling policy discussion that he was accustomed to having with military reporters, and speculated that he might have voted for the war resolution. But Clark always was in favor of diplomacy and using the threat of war as a last resort. In a conversation with me, Michael Gordon, the New York Times military reporter, said that he talked to Clark in the months leading up to the war and that "he was consistently skeptical that Iraq presented an urgent threat." And when Clark was working as a nonpartisan CNN analyst, he made it clear privately that he thought the US attack was mistaken. He now calls the administration's deceptive promotion of the war an "outrage." In his recent book, Winning Modern Wars: Iraq, Terrorism, and the American Empire,<*> he strongly criticizes the administration's failure to plan for the postwar violence and disorder. He has argued that the US should try to transfer both military and civil authority in Iraq to the United Nations.

MORE


The author also explains the infighting that was involved in his "firing." He was treated "badly" and "cruelly."

[Walt Starr]

10. If I could get past some of his supporters

I could grow to like General Clark.

[Democrats unite]

12. I think you have already made you point perfectly clear...

Same could be said about Dean supporters.

[wndycty]

17. Do you think your signature endears Clark supporters to Dean?

It seems like you don't understand how to bring people over to your side. . .your signature is evident of that. I am prepared to support the nominee whomver it is. . .are you? If not I hope you look in the mirror if Bush is re-elected. I don't think you see a lot of supporters of other candidates talking about their votes not being transferable.

[mermaid]

21. If That Was Directed At Me....

Let me say for the BILLIONTH time....I am voting for whoever the Dem nominee is. I am FIRMLY ABB.
Even if the nominee is Clark, I'll hold my nose and vote for him, because even HE would be better than Whistle-Ass.

But I still am a DEAN supporter, and I stll am looking for a DEAN win in the primaries...and, quite frankly, I'd LOVE to see a Dean/Clark ticket. That would be just the thing to beat Whistle-Ass.

[wndycty]

23. If you would hold your nose to vote for Clark. . .

. . .then why would you LOVE to see a Dean/Clark ticket. Obviously if its that painful to vote for Clark as president. . .I would doubt that he would be your first choice for VP.

[mermaid]

26. He's My First Choice for VP

Because Dean and clark are one and two in the primaries...and Clark is more conservative than Dean, and so will win swing votes.
I say Clark is my first choice for VP because I am adamantly ABB...nt because I am pro-Clark.

I just want Whistle-Ass outta there, and I think a Dean/Clark ticket could be the way to return the village idiot back to the Village of Crawford, Texas.

The village of Crawford, Texas is missing it's idoit. Let's return him this year!!!

[wndycty]

29. So you really would not be holding your nose to vote for Clark for POTUS

By the way I am not sure thay Clark is more conservative than Dean. They may turn out to be hype. Look at Clark on a lot of issues, many feel he is actually to the left of Dean.

[Dookus]

31. nope..

I don't know of any important issue on which Dean is to the left of Clark.

I'm a clark supporter precisely BECAUSE he's so liberal.

[wndycty]

32. Yes I would like to hear why Dean is more liberal than Clark. . .

. . .I don't think he really is.

[mermaid]

33. Well...I Am STILL Scared of Clark's History of Supporting REPUKES!!!

And that is why I am not a Clark supporter in the primaries.

I am a Dean supporter, because Dean is the closest to my stance on the issues, who has a chance of winning.

Kucinich is actually closest to my stance on issues, but I don't think he stands a chance in HELL of winning.

And I HATE Kerry!! Absolutely ABHOR him with every fiber of my being!!

The only Dems. worse that Kerry, in my book, are Lieberman and Zell Miller.

Why the vehement HATE for Kerry??
HE DOES NOT SUPPORT A TRANSGENDER-INCLUSIVE ENDA...IN FACT, HE OPPOSES THAT!! So I hate him.

Kucinich DOES support an inclusive ENDA. I'd love to support Dennis. But I don't think he can win. So I'm settling for Dean...I think Dean, at least, is supportive of transgender issues...and at least could be worked on. Kerry has flat-out refused to even listen to us transgender folks.

To HELL with Kerry.

Now, KERRY is the one I REALLY WOULD have to hold mmy nose to vote for POTUS. But my ABB conviction is so strong I would even vote for Kerry over Bush. But damn would it be hard!!

[wndycty]

35. You could not answer the question so you changed the subject. . .LOL

By the way tell me one thing Clark did for the Republicans that he did not do for the Democrats.

[mermaid]

39. Clark

Supported Reagan. Supported Rummy and Cheney in the 80's.

These are the very guys we now want to put out of power. You're asking me to believe a leopard can change his spots.

i'm not willing to believe that. Not when something THIS important is at stake.

As much as I am ABB, I am not willing to trade one Repuke for another Repuke.

[Dookus]

42. Still...

can't name a single important issue on which Dean is to the left of Clark, eh?

[wndycty]

43. I am still waiting for you to tell me how Dean is more liberal. . .

. . .and also tell me what he has done for Repukes that he has not done for Democrats? Answer the question, don't change the subject. Also if that concerns you so much why would you even consider him for VP?

[mermaid]

46. Answer

I can't name one. Why? Because I have not listened to Clark...nor do I care to. In my eyes, he is a Repuke.

He supported my enemies in the past. That's good enough for me.

The ONLY reason I want him as VP on a Dean ticket is so that he can get angry conservative W voters to our side, and thus beat Bush. Nothing else matters.

Bush needs to go.

I think this is the best, most direct path to beating Bush.

Plus, Clark being a General kinda does take the wind out of the sails of the "soft on terrorism" argument W will try to run on.

Are you happy now?

Truthfully, I know one thing about Clark...he is the biggest danger to MY guy, Dean...and that is why I do not want to se him do any better than he is right now. Because I want DEAN to be Prez. A REAL Democrat...one who has been so his entire life.

[wndycty]

49. Its funny you criticize Clark but admit you know little about him. . .

. . .does not make for a good argument when you think about. If you learn more about him and feel the same way I would have a lot more respect for your position. But basically you do not like him because he is not your guy, might you be afraid to learn more about him because you might like him better. You say in your eyes he is a Repuke but you also admit you don't know much about him.

[mermaid]

55. I Know He Supported My Enemies In The Past

And that's al I NEED to know about him. I will not support him in the primaries. End of discussion.

[wndycty]

56. End of discussion because you have no point. . .

. . .you don't know anything about the man. . .and you attack him because he is not your guy.

[mermaid]

59. No...End of Discussion Because I Have Made My Point

And you refuse to give it any validity. This man SUPPORTED MY GODDAMN ENEMIES IN THE PAST!!! I WILL NOT SUPPORT HIM IN THE PRIMARIES...PERIOD!!

I REFUSE TO!!

I SAY AGAIN...

HE SUPPORTED MY ENEMIES!!

How much louder do I need to say it??

[wndycty]

60. You might want to take a look at Dean's record . . .

. . .to see how many times he has gotten cozy with your enemies in the past. You have no point.

[mermaid]

62. Back That Charge Up Or Retract It!!

n/t

[wndycty]

64. LOL

-snip-
“Howard Dean actually agreed with the Gingrich Republicans,” Gephardt said in a speech to a Teamsters local in Des Moines, Iowa. “Howard Dean, as chairman of the National Governors Association, was supporting Republican efforts to scale back Medicare,” he charged.
-snip-

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3070782/

And lets not forget the time he fought overtime pay for state employees. . .

http://members.cox.net/lawyerguy/

[mermaid]

81. Hmmm...

Your first charge carries zero validity. It was made in a sppech by GEPHARDT...who just happens to be vying for the nomination himself!! So how much credibility do you expect me to give that attack? Where's Gephardt's proof?

The second...well, I have to look into that.

But, still...all that aside...Dean never rubbed shoulders with Rummy, Ashcroft, and Cheney...the guys we are now trying to get OUT of power.

Sorry, I still say a leopard does not change his spots, and I flat-out do not trust Clark.

[wndycty]

83. I do have a copy of the letter he sent to Jeffords. . .

:kick:

[mermaid]

84. If Ya Got It...Post It!

n/t

[Dookus]

61. And Dean said

nice things about Newt Gingrich, and Teddy Kennedy is close friends with Orrin Hatch, and I hear once Kucinich walked past a republican and didn't spit on him.....

Clark's been voting Democratic for a long time now. Closing your mind forever because of who he voted for prior to that strikes me as childish.

The issue before us is: What does he believe NOW?

He believes in a lot of things that are more liberal than the things Howard Dean believes in.

[mermaid]

63. No...The Issue Is - A Leopard Does NOT Change His Spots

And I think Clark is LYING to us.

I think Clark is being put up to tear down Dean, because the powers that be in the Establishment do not want Dean to win in '04...they want Bush to win in '04 so that Hillary can run in '08.

If Dean wins in '04, that screws Hillary. And that is why Wes Clark is a production of Bill Clinton...totally intended to make sure W wins in '04, so that Hillary can run in '08.

Not that I would mind a Hillary Presidency...BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF FOUR MORE YEARS OF W...WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT I THINK WE WILL GET IF CLARK GETS THE NOMINATION!!!!

[Dookus]

65. You're right...

Ronald Reagan was really a Democrat while in office :eyes:

[wndycty]

66. If Clark is lying then why do you want him as a VP?

You just showed how irrational your decisions are. You said you would love to vote for him as VP yet you call him a Republican who lies. If that were to be true he would be undeserving of the VP slot. You have shown you don't really know what to look for in a candidate.

[mermaid]

68. Because...Quite Simply

He would get the conservative swing voters.
I am NOT above having a liar on my team, if that liar enables us to reach the ultimate goal...and that is, BEAT BUSH!!!

I think a lot of Dems would refuse to support Clark if he got the nomination, and thus W would win. And Clinton is counting on that.

Hillary doesn't want to wait till '12 to run for Pres.

She'd rather W won in '04, and she then would not have to go up against an incumbent in '08. That is what I think.

I'm not above USING Wes Clark as a tool. No more than Clinton is above USING Clark to tear down Dean, so that his wife can run in '08.

THAT is what I think.

So pass me my tinfoil hat, I just got buzzed by some more black helicopters!!

Yes, I am an ANGRY liberal...and Dean's anger appeals to me. Furthermore, I am a conspricay theorist, and I think Clark is a plant in our midst...planted by the Clintons...to screw Dean.

[wndycty]

72. I am above using a liar, fortunately Clark is not one. . .

. . .and you have no proof that he is. Again. . .your willingness to vote for someone you believe to be a liar tells me a lot about your principles or lack there of.

[mermaid]

80. My Principles Are Quite Simple

In the case of beating Bush...the ends justify the means. I care not how it is done. Laws, ethics, morals, principles aside...Bush needs to go this year. That simple.
And if it takes using a liar to get it done, so be it.

I do believe Clark is lying to us. I do believe Clark was propped up by the Establishment (Clinton) in order to make sure Dean doesn't win the Presidency in '04, to clear the way for Hillary in '08. I really do believe that, and nothing will change my mind on that point.

Therefore...how more delicious can it get, if Dean wins the nomination, to use the very tool that was supposed to be Dean's undoing...to seat him firmly in the Oval Office? How more delicious does it get??

Say what you will about my principles, or lack thereof...but, when it comes to beating Bush, the ends justify the means. I only wish I knew enuff computer stuff to balance the odds a bit, because you know the Repuke hackers will be out there screwing with our electronic votes!

Yes...I said it!! I am not above even vote-tampering, if that is what it takes to get rid of W!!! Why not? 2000, and 2002, certainly showed the Repukes aren't above vote-tampering!!

[mermaid]

82. You're Right

What DOES he believe NOW? I do not know. Nor, do I suspect, do you. You are only going by what he SAYS he believes...not what his record shows him to believe.

His record shows him rubbing shoulders with, and supporting, the very PNAC crowd we are now looking to get rid of!

I still say he is lying...he is a plant, intended to screw Dean...all so that Hillary can run in '08. I do not trust him.

He supported my enemies!!

[Dookus]

86. an easier

and probably more dignified response would be to put your fingers in your ears and sing "LA LA LA LA LA LA!" until the convention.

[Dookus]

52. I should save

your post. It's a classic.

[Turkw]

89. So did a lot of Democrats and other Independents, Regan and Guliani were

DEMOCRATS once. As for Democrats Zell Miller is a life long Democrat ( and traitor to the party)

Should the candidates hold red hot bars of iron to see if they are pure enough?

If we can trade Zell for Clark- WE WIN in that bargain.

[lurk_no_more]

58. Excuse me

but weren't you the one just a few posts ago that berated another poster about grammar and spelling?

A little like the pot calling the kettle black after this post of yours wouldn't you agree?


” JAFO”

[lurk_no_more]

53. I really wish dean supporters

would stop with the dean/Clark ticket thing, it ain't gonna happen and to say that it would be just the ticket to beat bush indicates you feel without a strong VP dean has less of a chance to beat bush.

Clark has not disappointed me yet, but if he were to choose dean that would disappoint me. IMO if a candidate isn't worthy of support as President, then he isn't worthy of support as a possible replacement should something happen to my President.


” JAFO”

[mermaid]

25. WRONG!!!!

You see a hell of a lot of Kucinich supporters saying that their votes are not transferable, and if they don't win they will either not vote at all...i.e. take their ball and go home...or go Green on our ass!

You don't hear DEAN supporters talking about going Green if our guy don't win. You sure as HELL hear it a lot from Kucinich supporters!!

They scare the crap outta me, because they just might end up making Bush a winner...by refusing to support the nominee when...not if, but WHEN...it isn't Kucinich.

[Democrats unite]

30. not voting at all is the same as a green vote

eom.

[Walt Starr]

36. There is only ONE way to vote Green

One goes to one's polling place, picks up a ballot, moves to the booth, and punches the hole next to the Green Candidate's name.

By your logic, Ralph Nader should be the president right now because he would have taken more than 50% of the vote to a paltry less than 25% each for Gore and Bush.

[Dookus]

22. And very honestly, Walt...

a lot of struggle with the same thing regarding Dean supporters. It really cuts both ways.

However, I decided NOT to let other people determine how *I* vote. I'm not gonna let the attack dogs influence MY decisions. There are a small number of very prolific Dean supporters here that engage in constant, childish attacks against Clark. I've been tempted to be petulant and say "that's it... I'll never vote for Dean because of your behavior." But ya know what? That's just childish, and it's cutting off my nose to spite my face.

I am FOR Clark. I am not against any candidate. I'm not gonna let idiots change that.

NOTE: Walt, I don't think YOU are one of the people I'm referring to. I understand why you're upset. We ALL get upset when people make unfair attacks against the people we support. It happens a lot to Dean, and it happens a lot to Clark, too. Not ALL criticism is unfair, though, and I see too many people here to go into instinctive knee-jerk mode whenever ANYTHING questioning their candidate is brought up. It's sorta silly, IMHO.

[lurk_no_more]

37. Please don't group us all into one corner

there are alot of dean supporters I dislike but I refuse to lump them all in one pile, the ignore feature works wonders.


” JAFO”

[Walt Starr]

47. I used the word "some"

I didn't say "all" nor did I even say "most" or "a majority".

Just "some", but some is enough to sour me.

[neverforget]

40. touche

[ErasureAcer]

18. So all former felons and those felons still in prison can vote?

that is a move in the right direction if that is what he is saying.

[ErasureAcer]

67. is someone going to answer my question...

I take it Clark doesn't believe felons still in prison should vote...

since no one is jumping at the opportunity to show me something of the ilk.

[Eric J in MN]

71. He isn't advocating voting rights for felons on that webpage (nt)

nt

[ErasureAcer]

75. that is not good in my books...

having every US citizen vote is what this country should be about...just because people screw up and are caught(and then there are some that are wrongly convicted)...doesn't mean that they should not be heard.

come on now...people make mistakes...making them pay forever by not even allowing them to vote is a disgrace to a "country run by the people and for the people."

let every voice be heard...that is the best cure of fradulent voting rolls.

[Tom Rinaldo]

74. While I have heard Clark passionately address

The issue of the percentage of African American who are incarcerated was a major part of a speech I saw him give on CSPAN in New Hampshire (note: in NH, not South Carolina). He thinks it is a national disgrace. He also spoke directly of the need to restore voting rights to many if not most of them, but no, I did not hear Clark call for all felons, including all those still held in prison, to be given back their vote.

[Clark4VotingRights]

38. I find it exhilarating that Clark is actually making the Fla voter purge

And voting reform, a major point of his campaign.
He is a man of integrity and courage.

I further find it inexcusable the Al Gore never said
a word in acknowledgment of the despicable disenfranchisement
of so many of our black voters in Florida. They were strategically,
and successfully, target to steal *his*, and our, election.

I can only conclude that Al Gore wanted to distance himself
from the African American community. I can't help but feel
betrayed by his assurance that he heard our voices and wouldn't
forget. Apparently he didn't hear the voices of the our
African American brother and sisters. His words were hollow.

Well I hear their voices. And so does General Clark.
Thank you General. You represent the best of humankind.

[NV1962]

50. Exactly - let's not forget

what really happened with the elections in November 2000.

Diebold is just one of the big, nasty issues to watch, on our way to Nov 2.

[chookie]

41. President Clark -- what a thought!

I have respect and admiration for all the candidates, and had been supporting Dean, but General Clark has won me over. *All* of the candidates have what it takes to be a good President, but my belief is that Clark has what it is going to take to go toe to toe with the Bush Crime Family in what is going to be the most vicious election season in our nation's history. That boy has got the right stuff.

"President Clark." Just thinking about it, my blood pressure lowers. I can feel hope for the future again. I can envision our nation once again being the moral leader of the world, admired, not reviled, as it is now. I imagine how proud I am going to feel as I see him meet with world leaders, and know how impressed they will be with him; how proud I will be to see him greeted by cheering crowds around the world for re-forging our alliances and friendship with the other nations of the globe, re-forging cooperation as we face major global challenges.

[giantrobot_2000]

44. President Clark

President Clark...tell your friends! Be the first kid on your block to slap a Clark bumpersticker on your car and kick in a little money over at http://www.clark04.com/donate

Spread the word about "President Clark!"

[BeyondGeography]

48. We need Wes Clark

The General understands that when we go to war to fight for freedom (isn't that what the Republicans call it?), we damn well better be living up to the terms of our own Constitution.

He's believes in this issue unconditionally.

[Lefta Dissenter]

51. Chookie! You've seen the light! :)

and in your little reverie... don't you forget that many of those world leaders have already met and worked with Clark, and they respect him! That would give us an immediate first step towards repairing the damage that bush has done to our reputation and relationships throughout the world.

[hope42mro]

54. Mmmm,,,Sounds wonderful!

I love Clark! He's wonderful! So respectful, and honorable. The image of American Nobility. I give you the recipe for Election Success:
1) A hefty portion of military career (wins "Patriots")
2) An delectible assortment of scholastic honors (wins everyone, I hope)
3)A dollup of Self-rising business and non-for-profit entrepreneurship
4)Some Pallet-cleansing civility in political debate
5)An intiguing dash of spiritual idealism and religious identity

[newyawker99]

79. Hi hope42mro!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[cally]

70. Exactly

That's how I feel. Clark is very liberal and thinks about the future. It's not all about him and his career but about the world. I know I will not agree with everything in a Clark administration, but I am assured that all ideas will be considered and the consequences understood. I will feel better under a Clark admininstration.

[in_cog_ni_to]

69. The republicans have been put on notice.

How awesome is that?

Third, I want to put the Republican Party on notice: We're going to appoint a legal team to monitor the 2004 election carefully, and if anyone is intimidated, or turned away from the polls illegally, we will push to prosecute the perpetrators to the full extent of the law.

He has taken the fight to them and will do exactly as he says. Just watch.

Go Wes!

[chookie]

73. Wow

That's powerful stuff.

Wes is taking them on!

Wes has guts. Wes fears no man. Wes speaks with confidence. He doesn't say what he wishes was true, but what he is capable of achieving.

"He has taken the fight to them and will do exactly as he says. Just watch."

You're right. And people are going to stand behind him in this. Isn't it exciting?

[in_cog_ni_to]

76. No candidate has excited me more

than this man. I believe every word he says. He says what he means and he means what he says. All one has to do is look at him when he speaks. Look in his eyes. He IS the real deal and I love him for that. How many Generals have you seen on National TV cry because 100,000 Rwandans were slaughtered? Wes did. He felt guilty for NOT helping the Rwandans....hence, his position on Kosovo. He had sworn to himself he'd NEVER let anything like what happened in Rwanda happen again. He's an amazing man. I am so proud of him. I'm HONORED to be a supporter. :)

[maddezmom]

78. another great statement from Clark

he is going to continue to hammer this point home. The election was stolen in 2000 and it's not going to happen this time around.

[Clark4VotingRights]

85. This is why I'm so excited about Clark's candidacy!

He is the only candidate to consistently point out how voters,
esp black voters, were targeted to steal the 2000 election.
And he's the only one (tho' Kuchinich is taking on Diebold et al,
thank you Kucinich!) to make voting rights a major issue.

He seems to realize that there's no point campaigning if BushCo
just steals the votes.

[stickdog]

87. WOW! It's great to see General Clark meet this issue head on!

All that direct talk about the Florida's stolen election and the perils of black box voting was really refreshing.

I advise anyone interesting in these critical topics to read this entire link to see just how far Clark is willing to go to expose voting machine manufacturers and the illegal Jeb Crow scrub of the voter Florida rolls that still hasn't been fixed three years later:

http://clark04.com/story/57/

[Clark4VotingRights]

90. Kick: The single most important issue.

Voting fraud, BBV, etc.
Nothing else can get solved until this is solved.