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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 02:59 PM
Original message
It is official. Hillary Clinton is a lying, democracy-hating subversive.
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 03:03 PM by BuyingThyme
Please, Hillary supporters. Think about what you've become. Try to figure out what it is about this woman that has compelled you to set aside everything you once stood for.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x104759

I know. You have been programmed to claim that the audio has been altered, or her comments are being taken out of context, or one would have to be a woman-hater to post what Hillary says on the public record. But, please, think about how many times you've run with those talking points only to be burned to a crisp by your candidate.

Stop it.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:01 PM
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1. And they say Hillary supporters have gone off the deep end!!!
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 03:06 PM by xultar
WHEW!!!
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:11 PM
Response to Reply #1
17. Can you point to anything in my post with which you in any way disagree?
If so, please explain.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #17
20. I can't help. I stopped reading after "lying, democracy-hating subversive."
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:17 PM
Response to Reply #20
23. She didn't lie?
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 03:30 PM by BuyingThyme
She didn't demonstrate her hatred for democracy in doing so?

Or it's not subversive to do so?

I don't get it. Did you listen to the audio?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:21 PM
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26. I heard it. He took his name off, she didn't. Where's the lie? Where's the subversion?
And no, I did not hear her "demonstrate here hatred for democracy."

You have an oddly histrionic response to that clip.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:24 PM
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28. Cool. Now we're getting somewhere.
You agree with Hillary that the primary results are fair even though Barack Obama's name did not appear on the ballot as a result of the state deciding to subvert and ignore DNC rules.

See how easy this is.

Now we know how Rug feels about democracy.

Anybody else have something to say in defense of Hillary's lying subversion? (Or is it subversive lying?)
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #28
37. The state deciding to subvert and ignore DNC rules? The state had nothing to do with this.
If you mean the state Democratic Party subverted Obama, why are you wailing about Clinton?

See how easy it is?
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:37 PM
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42. Why am I wailing about Clinton supporting the subversion of the process?
It think supporting subversion of the process is bad.

Why do you so openly support the subversion of the process? I've never seen anything like this.

Posted by rug

The state deciding to subvert and ignore DUNC rules? The state had nothing to do with this.

If you mean the state Democratic Party subverted Obama, why are you wailing about Clinton?

See how easy it is?




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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:48 PM
Response to Reply #42
46. To answer your title, Exactly.
You complained about Clinton but then said it was the State party doing the subversion.

And please remove your typo if you're going to quote me.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:53 PM
Response to Reply #46
49. I see. Supporting subversion is not subversive.
I guess it takes a Hillary supporter.

Keep 'em coming. This stuff is golden.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:00 PM
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54. You're spinning and your hand is on the trigger.
Who was subversive?

The state party for changing the date?

The DNC for stripping the delegates?

Clinton for leaving her name on the ballot?

Maybe I should check with the House Committee on UnObama Activities for your definition of subversive.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:04 PM
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58. It's subversive to support the subversion you just identified.
It's subversive for Hillary Clinton to pretend that the results of the primary are somehow valid even though Barack Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot (as hers was).

How many ways can you pretend not to understand how this is a problem?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:06 PM
Response to Reply #58
59. Please send me the HUOC address. It may clear this up for me.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:12 PM
Response to Reply #59
61. Okay. I'll play along with your latest diversion. What's HUOC?
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:55 PM
Response to Reply #46
50. That typo is bizarre.
I cut and pasted the thing, so it's hard to figure.
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #20
34. Then you should look at the video. Michigan was fair? Maybe Power was right.
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 03:29 PM by demdog78
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:02 PM
Response to Reply #34
57. I looked at the video. He took his name off. She didn't. And?
If you're referring to Susan Powers, she's busy spinning Obama's Iraq plan.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #20
63. I persevered and didn't quit until I got to "you have been programmed to...."
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #17
29. deep-end you're there. Your post looks deep-endish. I'm just sayin.
Just like others would say Hillary supporters look like they are deep-endish.

Your post looks deep-endish.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #29
33. Xultar obvioiusly agrees with me.
Anybody else?
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:20 PM
Response to Reply #33
64. I agree that your post is off the deep end.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:25 PM
Response to Reply #64
67. How so?
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:01 PM
Original message
Go Hillary...do what you have to! She's smart , wise, capable
experienced and can take all the crap...that is being thrown at her with wimping "I'm the underdog"..
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:29 PM
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35. Don't forget a cheater. That is important. She's a cheater.
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:01 PM
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2. Go Hillary...do what you have to! She's smart , wise, capable
experienced and can take all the crap...that is being thrown at her with wimping "I'm the underdog"..
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:02 PM
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3. Hey, Obama is the one who is against re-voting and in favor of disenfranshising voters in Florida
and Michigan.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:06 PM
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10. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Drachasor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 01:04 AM
Response to Reply #3
76. That's false. He just wants to make sure it is done right.
For instance, the plan of mail-in voting is illegal in Florida and can't work. It's not a measure that can actually work.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:03 PM
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4. I'm not a Hillary supporter
but I do know what you lunatic Obama cultists have become. Do you spend your days PMing each other and bouncing posts off each other? Interesting you mention being programmed!
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:06 PM
Response to Reply #4
11. I don't care for Obama.
And his "cultists" probably wouldn't put up with me for long.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:20 PM
Response to Reply #11
65. Sounds you like you hate everybody. What gives?
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:18 PM
Response to Reply #65
78. We have to poor candidates.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:08 PM
Response to Reply #4
14. No, you're just a
name caller.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:12 PM
Response to Reply #14
18. May I suggest
that "asshole" or "ignorant slut" are examples of name calling. Referring to overzealous Obama supporters who show all the signs of being cult members cultists is not name calling.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:14 PM
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19. Is there a list of cult-relevant symptoms that includes name-calling?
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:23 PM
Response to Reply #19
66. Your OP might qualify as such a list.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #66
68. Again, how so?
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:29 PM
Response to Reply #68
71. "Lying, democracy-hating subversive."
"Try to figure out what it is about this woman that has compelled you to set aside everything you once stood for."

"You have been programmed to claim that the audio has been altered..."

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #18
21. And, you conveniently leave out
the clinton supporters of your name calling.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:03 PM
Response to Original message
5. FU!
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:05 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. Please respond. If not here,
than at least to yourself.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #5
32. My, that was quite ungentlemanly of you
:rofl:
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:04 PM
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6. For the Hillary supporters:
your candidate, asked 'why stay on the ballot?' responds 'it's clear that this election they're having is not going to count for anything.'

http://www.jabberwonk.com/clinton_mi_byte.mp3

Spin THAT.
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:04 PM
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7. What Hillary supporters have become?
This place has become a circle jerk for obnoxious Obama supporters.
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:07 PM
Response to Reply #7
12. Are you kidding me? Since when is that kind of language allowed on here?
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:38 PM
Response to Reply #12
43. Since someone could call a Democrat a "lying, democracy-hating subversive"
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 03:42 PM by Arkansas Granny
in their subject line without getting their thread locked.

Edited for clarity.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:46 PM
Response to Reply #43
45. Was that the day it became demonstrably true?
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:05 PM
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9. I'm No Hillary Supporter...
But don't you have something else to do today?

-P
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:07 PM
Response to Reply #9
13. Yes, but I have a little time to defend democracy.
What is it that you're doing?
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 08:45 PM
Response to Reply #13
73. OH PLEASE...
Defending democracy? Just re-read your OP. How are you defending democracy?

-P
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #73
79. I'm pointing out that Hillary Clinton's idea of democracy
is for her name, and her name only, to be on the ballot.

Thanks for letting me explain. Anything else?
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:08 PM
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15. Being democratically elected is optional. Clinton doesn't care. She wants the crown.
Either that or she wants to collect her dividends under the table for helping get McCain elected. Either way she wins.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:10 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. "Well, that was his choice, remember."
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:17 PM
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22. YES--THINK OF WHAT YOU HAVE BECOME--LOOK AT YOUR subject line. SHAME ON YOU
Please, Hillary supporters. Think about what you've become.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. I'll give you the same chance. What is it about the subject line
that you disagree with?

You've shown a propensity to run away from any substantive conversation, but how about you stand up for your candidate this time.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #22
38. ROFL fucking brilliant.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:49 PM
Response to Reply #38
47. Hillary supporters shame truth.
Perfect.

Thank you.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:20 PM
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25. **********FLAIMBAIT**
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:26 PM
Response to Reply #25
30. Ahh, keep alerting the plain truth. That's the spirit!
Go Team Hillary!
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:23 PM
Response to Original message
27. You forgot crapweasel.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:26 PM
Response to Reply #27
31. What's crapweasel?
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #31
36. Here y'go
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 03:31 PM by jgraz
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=crapweasel

crapweasel
1. One who skillfully cheats, usually a board games.

2. One who challenges novices to games he has mastered, and beats them, showing no mercy.

...

3. crapweasel
Rant and rave about the power you have but then can't do anything with it. Blames everyone around him for shortcomings.



Aside from the fact that Hillary got her ass kicked by the so-called "novice", it sounds pretty accurate to me.

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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #36
39. I'd've bet the farm that nowhere in the world was there an
established definition for the word crapweasel.

Yes, crapweasel.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:33 PM
Response to Reply #36
40. Isn't craps a dice game and not a board game?
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:36 PM
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41. what are you babbling about now?
she said to either count the votes as it stands or do a complete revote.

What's your point?
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:52 PM
Response to Reply #41
48. Oh, I must have listened to a different clip.
I'm posting about the clip where Hillary says that the Michigan primary was fair, that the results are valid, even though Barack Obama's name wasn't on the ballot.

I guess some folks are getting a different clips when they click.

Either that or some folks are having trouble being truthful.

Yeah. One or the other.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:58 PM
Response to Reply #48
51. she says it at the end
it's not the voices in your head, honest...
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #51
53. Oh. You should listen to the rest.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:29 PM
Response to Reply #53
70. no, you should listen to the whole thing
since, afterall, it's your thread.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:22 PM
Response to Reply #70
80. I did.
Am I supposed to pretend that she didn't say the beginning part?

I don't understand.
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Asia Expat Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:39 PM
Response to Original message
44. nt
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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From The Left Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 03:59 PM
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52. Hillary is divisive, destructive and angry. Deal with it
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:01 PM
Response to Reply #52
56. I am.
:hi:
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:01 PM
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55. "Please, Hillary supporters. Think about what you've become." ???
With a subject line like yours, you might want to take a look in the mirror.

:crazy:
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:07 PM
Response to Reply #55
60. Why?
You don't think Hillary supporters should take a look at what they're supporting, what they've become as Hillary supporters?

That's bizarre.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:27 PM
Response to Reply #60
69. In the real world, Clinton and Obama are still neck-to-neck


But, I guess some DUers base their political decisions solely on what they read on DU and other anti-Hillary websites.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:17 PM
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62. I'll go ahead and say it.
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 04:20 PM by backscatter712
I'd rather lose with Obama than win with Hillary.

She's abandoned everything this party stands for with her Rovian, smearing, race-baiting dog whistle politics.

Bigotry cannot be tolerated in a Democratic campaign under any circumstances. Not ever. Not allowed to exist, and certainly not silently encouraged with a wink and a nod. Hillary had to immediately and strongly reject and denounce all bigotry, in any form, and when she did not do so when Geraldine Ferraro's comments hit the media, she failed.

So, you know what, if giving the middle finger to all the Archie Bunkers and David Dukes and closet racists means we lose the race, so fucking be it.

I'd rather lose with my head held high than sell my soul to win.

HEY BIGOTS!!!

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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 04:31 PM
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72. What's official is that you've set a record for length of time disrupting on this website.
:applause:
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 12:41 AM
Response to Reply #72
74. It's official.
Harvey has joined the long list of those acknowledging the obvious.

:loveya:
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #74
82. Oh, oh. It's Jack Beck, come to defend
the small community of DUers who slander all older gay men who don't have sex in public restrooms.

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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 01:42 AM
Response to Reply #72
77. In stealth mode, no less.
Well said. :thumbsup:
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #72
81. Truth will always be disruptive with those of you
who oppose truth.
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jconner27 Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 01:00 AM
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75. Coming from a cult follower that's funny
According to you Obama followers he's the be all end all.. even tho he hasn't done anything.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:26 PM
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83. I don't think that at all. Why are you compelled to make stuff up?
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