RE: All these whining race tinged 'concerns' about Obama

[jakem]

Let's see. The US is mostly white (ie a majority)

Yet Obama is undeniably gaining more votes and delegates than Clinton (who is supposedly so much more appreciated by whitey).

And yet, he is not electable in the GE because... black voters like him too?

...


:wtf: is wrong with you people.

Can we drop the 'concern' about what 'other people' think about race.

Every one of you who keep pandering to the idea that race is a big problem in regards to Obama's electability, you should really take a look at your own feelings about people with more melatonin than yourself, and stop worrying about how others will react.



Now lets talk about the issues.

... war anyone? ...cluster bombs? ...transparency in government? ...beating mccain?

[flor de jasmim]

1. THANK YOU.

[wndycty]

2. Exactly, and Hillary needs more than 8% of the Black vote to win both the GE and the primary

This "concern" about Obama only getting 24% of the white vote in MS is valid only if we should be concerned that Hillary only got 8% of the Black vote. A Democrat cannot win the GE with 8% of the Black vote, but a Democrat can win a primary with only 24% of the white vote.

[C_U_L8R]

3. The Clintonarians are peeing in the pool

Issues=bad. Race baiting=good.
They're obviously trading in their losing strategy
for a more losing one.

[bigtree]

4. Apparently it's fine to discuss the demographics in a campaign of almost every group

. . . except for blacks, these days. This has got to stop. It make no sense at all that we have to ignore the fact that Obama achieved many of his victories down south because of an overwhelming amount of black voters who came out for his candidacy. And, now, it's oh so racist to speculate if that will be a factor when other ethnic and racial groups dilute the vote. What the hell is this? Since when did discussing race become racist? Oh, I know. When folks like YOU decided they had heard enough, as if you and the rest were somehow in charge of what we choose to discuss, or are in charge of what's important to folks. Or, as if we can't focus on more than one thing at once. There is a real and disturbing attempt by some to dictate innocuous speech which is somehow unfavorable or unflattering of their choice of candidate. This is a prime example. When discussing demographics in a campaign becomes out of bounds, I'll know that this opportunistic, political fascism which some are promoting, have won over reason, free thought, and free speech.

[jakem]

5. I have no problem with looking at demographics, friend.

My problem is the constant whinging about 'what the racists will do.'

When THEY are in fact US.

[bigtree]

6. just because we may have misunderstandings and a difficulty expressing them in unbiased ways

. . . doesn't make us racists. I only consider folks 'racist' if they use the subject to divide, injure, or to unfairly elevate themselves at the expense of others. I could think of more, but, these will do.

I really think that it's going overboard to label all folks who hold and vocalize concerns they may have about issues of race and ethnicity as racists, as is the tendency with some as they've defended the black candidate in our primary.

And, I think the number of folks who may not vote for Obama because he's black is a legitimate concern in the general election, and, certainly should be discussed openly and candidly, as we would ANY potentially limiting factor of support for our nominee in the general election.

[jakem]

7. well spoken, and i agree to a point-

but much of the 'concern' about race on this board in particular is a thin veil on more personally held prejudice.


so lets talk about demographics, but pass on the generalizations like ' Obama can't carry the white vote in a GE' as he is clearly holding up well against a white competitor already.

there are more important issued at hand.

[bigtree]

8. then why not make the point

. . . and allow folks to disagree, if they do, without trying to characterize them or stifle their expression of their opinion?